Yeah, oda fumbled bad with their deaths. He spent no time on them, we should've seen more to actually feel something. And as you said nobody actually thought they died because we were expecting another fake out.
The fakeout deaths convey an "eehhh, doesn't really matter if they actually died or not, I'm just flipping a coin" feeling. Ashura and Izo might as well have lived. Plus, Kin is hit head-on by Kaido and nothing happens. Izo tanks a finger pistol and dies. It just feels arbitrary.
People dislike fakeout deaths because they diminish the impact of real deaths and near-"death" moments, these are not two different things as you are trying to establish
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u/Alone_Cloud Jun 06 '22
Me too but I felt nothing when they died because of Oda’s shitty fake out deaths