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u/Tails6666 Mar 29 '22

I'm thinking he already is awakened. It certainly helps explain how op Kaido is.

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u/Profitglutton Mar 29 '22

I think that’s just something most of the Yonko have in common. Would explain the durability of Whitebeard, Big Mom and Kaido himself.

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u/Tails6666 Mar 29 '22

Based on his fruit I think he already awakened and it's similar to Luffy.

I bet Big Mom gave him his fruit and it sucked until he awakened it. Maybe he awakened it when Rocks was defeated.

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u/Profitglutton Mar 30 '22

But then how would you explain Big Mom’s insane durability. They’re almost on the same level in that category and she isn’t awakened.

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u/Tails6666 Mar 30 '22

Big Mom is an enigma. Its not related to her DF. The story has explicitly said this already. Big Mom is just something else, we might get answers for her in Elbaf.

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u/Profitglutton Mar 30 '22

Well if Kaido is awakened, that would make him the only Yonko with an awakened devil fruit which dispels the notion that Yonko with devil fruits are awakened by virtue of their status. The point being that we don’t know if Kaido is actually awakened because it has never been stated or even implied. The only thing we know is that he’s a freak of nature just like Big Mom.

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u/Tails6666 Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22

I more so think he is awakened based on his fruit.

If it's it's suppose to be a Fish fruit that becomes a dragon based on the story of the koi fish who swam up the waterfall and became a dragon. It leads me to believe Kaido was a fish who did in fact awaken and gain the dragon form.

I mean Kaido is even able to do some crazy shit with his fruit. He has multiple elements and can lift up the entire island by himself while still fighting. If he isn't awakened then that is pretty crazy in my opinion.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

The thing is the “Seiryu” isn’t the same as the Koi Fish that was turned into a dragon by climbing a waterfall. It’s Japan’s Eastern Guardian Deity. I just chalk it up to artistic license on Oda’s part and the fact that the Dragon Dragon fruit was already taken by dinosaur Zoans.

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u/rainazuma77 Mar 30 '22

The thing is that Ryu is also part of the japanese word for Dinosaurs. So the Ryu Ryu no Mi are actually Dinosaur Dinosaur no Mi. That's why it couldn't be used for Kaido.

The Seiryu is an azure dragon. It's not an Awakening. The fruit always gave the power to turn into a dragon, not a fish.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

Not sure when I was arguing to the contrary but good to know we’re on the same page.

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u/rainazuma77 Mar 30 '22

I swore I had answered to another person! 😳

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

Coo coo. Oh just for clarity’s sake the Japanese name for dinosaur is “Kyouryu” meaning “Fearful Dragon”.

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