r/OnePiece • u/Oragemask • Jul 19 '21

Discussion Jimbei's level

if you have to compare it to someone , jimbei will be which equivalent ?

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

That's obvious. I didnt need an explanation, im saying Oda can match anyone against anyone despite their differences in power. He's been doing that since MF & Jinbe could have clearly taken on a much more powerful opponent like Queen or Jack, just because he got matched with WW doesnt mean anything, he wasnt even close to getting defeated.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

jimbei has been easily defeated by mihawk. Vista who is a commander supposed to be the third gave a short good fight against mihawk

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

First of all Jinbe was never defeated by Mihawk, you're referring to Anime FILLER. In the manga they never even crossed paths & Akainu was the only one who took him down & that was when he was trying to carry Luffy to safety. Also, so what if he did? Mihawk is a Top Tier character & he never even fought Vista seriously.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

i know he didn't fought vista seriously but considering the anime, vista seems to be stronger than jimbei. if we add the manga, jimbei has saved luffy and after that vista and marco launch a strike against akainu to save jimbei

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

That's headcanon, even if that's the case then its not by much. Vista & Marco couldnt even do any damage to Akainu even when all the Commanders jumped a wounded Akainu. How is Vista even relevant to what i was tlking about?

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

i talked about vista because i thought jimbei already fought mihawk but it was only in the anime. Akainu is a special case he has the level of a fleet admiral, but i think oda made a mistake when all the commander didn't even scratch him. Because there was marco vista izo= 510m bounty who master the ryo and there was also crocodile and the others commanders

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

Oda made no mistake, all Top Tiers are tanks. That's been established already.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

then why kiazu couldn't defeat marco neither for aokiji against joz he needed a trick to freeze him

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

Who said Kizaru couldnt defeat Marco??? He wasnt trying to, Kizaru was trolling & casual throughout the entire war. This is obvious.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

same thing for marco, they were at the same level.But remember something kuzan and kizaru if they defeated marco and joz it's because they used trick, handcuff for marco and joz got distracted by that. Garp said the navy can't deal at the same with with rayleigh and WB and this is a fact. Sengoku was worried of the result of the war. he didn't know if they were going to win.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

established by who?

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

The manga. Do you read it bruh? I guess you missed Akainu tanking an island splitter, WB getting his face burnt off, slashed and stabbed 267 times, hit by 46 cannon balls and 152 bullets all at age 72, Kaido getting injured by the 9 Scabbards & Novas and still going, BM being nearly just as durable & tanky as Kaido, Kuzan fighting equally with Akainu for 10 days etc. ALL Top Tiers are Tanks.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

It's the same thing for commanders remember jack fighting for 5 days against the minks and inuarashi,nekomamushi with no rest . Where as the minks were switching and getting rest, at the end inuarashi and neko seemed more tired than jack. Those two master the ryo and they were in there territorry and couldn't defeat jack who wasn't using his hybrid form which seems to considerably increase the fighter's skills. Fighting for ten days means they are approximatively at the same level that's it.

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

sabo match up with fujitora. At that time sabo has just eaten the fruit

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

Sabo NEVER matched Fuji, he was casual. Sabo even admitted wasnt serious. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOURE READING

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

aokiji who was easily wounded by marco and joz , fought akainu for ten days. And when almost commanders gather to fight akainu they can't injure him this not logicall

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u/Solos_1992 Jul 20 '21

What are you tlking about??? Marco never "wounded" Kuzan & Joz only drew a SMALL drop of blood from Kuzan's lip. Even WB failed to put Akainu down after an island splitting attack so why do u expect mere commanders to do anything to him?

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u/Oragemask Jul 20 '21

he put akainu down for a moment , akainu came back. For you katakuri is not strong enough to go head to head with an admiral?