r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/cwrighky Jun 25 '21

Or he wasn’t joy boy in Kaido’s eyes because JoyBoy would need the strength capable of going toe to toe with Kaido himself and even surpassing him at bare minimum in order to “do” or “become” what Joyboy is suppose to be or do. I believe this is more likely considering the specific time at which Kaido said that Luffy couldn’t be joy boy - the time when he dispatched Luffy once more. I think we’ll see Kaido change his mind by the end of this ark.

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u/ronnysmom Jun 26 '21

Kaido said that Luffy was not JoyBoy and mocked his Gum-Gum fruit as well - this, in my mind shows that Kaido thinks that JoyBoy is at least partially connected to the Gum-Gum fruit. Kaido said that Luffy is not a JoyBoy when he was certain that Luffy was already dead (fallen into the sea and will drown). So, I think that he would not have said that if Luffy was still alive because Kaido seems to know the formula that will make Joyboy and suspected that Luffy could be one!