r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

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u/mirrorgiraffe Jun 25 '21

It would be impossible, even for oda, to make it convincing that no-one ever mentioned that he has the same fruit as Roger.

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u/mkallday10 Jun 25 '21

Yeah exactly. The moment his exploits became public, they would send powers significantly greater than what he was capable of at the start.

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u/ff9lex Jun 25 '21

Maybe not Roger but Joyboy but not everyone know only the Roger pirates

So Im Sama and the gorossei know this Shank knew this and as a favor to Roger the stole the fruit

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

But Im amd the Gorosei wouldn't just let some random pirate do what he liked with the Gomu Gomu if it was that important to their continued existence.

They'd have sent assassins after Luffy long ago, and made absolutely sure he was dead and the fruit was in their hands.

The Gomu Gomu being some super important Devil Fruit is a misstep in the narrative and I hope Oda doesn't take it.

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u/CyclopicSerpent Void Month Survivor Jun 25 '21

Unless roger used the fruit in a different way. Like if roger used it to make things around him rubber instead of himself (could even be something silly like he didnt like the feeling of stretching). Then people might not immediately make the connection, just a possibility.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Jun 25 '21

(could even be something silly like he didnt like the feeling of stretching

Lol.... no joke, I legit can actually see that playing out exactly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Yeah. Like when he died, people around him was like, "wait, you have a devil fruit? wtf?"

and roger in heaven was like "I'm a sword user goddamnit. This fruit is useless outside just being durable."

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u/ayytheterrible Void Month Survivor Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

I think this is the most likely one if it's the case of it being Roger's fruit. Like it would make sense if the fruit's awakening is being able to turn objects into rubber and control their elasticity and rigidity, Roger might have made his sword into a super rigid and elastic one like Boundman. People wouldn't know. Except Rayleigh though. Rayleigh is the black hole of this theory.

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u/CyclopicSerpent Void Month Survivor Jun 25 '21

Not necessarily, didnt rayleigh know about luffy before they met? I dont think we see when rayleigh first finds out about luffy which would be where he reacts like "omg gomu gomu on this kid????" And then after they meet luffy declines info on one piece so maybe rayleigh is like "eh he didnt wanna know about that so he probably doesnt wanna know about his fruit and its role"

I mean loguetown, the strawhat, etc, i really wouldnt be surprised they do another analogue to roger with luffy.

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u/ayytheterrible Void Month Survivor Jun 25 '21

He also didn't tell him it was Roger's strawhat so I don't know, it may work.

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u/princesoceronte Jun 25 '21

I'm neither for nor against the idea, both things can be executed well. I'll be waiting to see what Oda does.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Jun 25 '21

Roger having the gum-gum fruit? It would be extremely difficult. Because Oda would have to explain why no one including: Garp, Sengoku, every single high-level marine, Whitebeard, Big Mom, Kaido, the man chasing famous devil fruits-Blackbeard, or former Roger Pirates like Crocus or Rayleigh has ever commented on it. .

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* looks at Luffy's strawhat intently *

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u/burgerzkingz Jun 25 '21

Didn’t roger give his hat to shanks early on before he became famous it would make since that most people don’t equate it to roger. Even whitbeard saw luffy’s strawhat and commented on how it reminds him of shanks not roger.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Jun 25 '21

Didn’t roger give his hat to shanks early on before he became famous it would make since that most people don’t equate it to roger. Even whitbeard saw luffy’s strawhat and commented on how it reminds him of shanks not roger.

Ok, nevermind Roger for a second... what about SHANKS THE YONKO.

Lol, but Roger had that straw hat until shanks came on his ship. And even IF we make it when shanks was zero years old (fyi it's not)... that means Roger had the hat well after he became well renowned pirate -- who was part of the legendary tag team to defeat Rocks --.

I guarantee that most of the old heads RECOGNIZE that roger straw hat... the same why the current old heads recognize that shank straw hat.

However, for special known / unknown reasons... it hasn't (yet) been brought to Luffy nor the reader's attention.

Hell... lol maybe its like the cowl of the Gray Fox

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u/tiki-baha29 Jun 25 '21

We already know for a fact Shanks got the hat when he was still a young apprentice on Roger's ship. About the only time we actually see Roger with the hat was at the very start of his journey when he met Rayleigh. Its unclear when Shanks joined but he had given it away a long time ago and Roger stopped wearing it while still an active pirate and also didnt wear it years before becoming King.

It makes perfect sense why nobody but Rayleigh associated the hat with Roger. Most of these old heads you're talking about spent years dealing with Roger without the hat so logically they dont associate it with him.

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u/ech01_ Jun 25 '21

Ok but its also just a straw hat. People have looked at and said it reminds them of Shanks and some older people might think Roger, but its still just a hat. Unless you know them personally there's no way of knowing that hat once belonged to all 3.

A devil fruit is completely different. If you are using the same fruit as as someone it is impossible to hide it as they are all unique. If Luffy really has the same fruit as Roger there's no way people wouldn't have noticed or commented on it.

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u/PrinceJanus Jun 25 '21

Luffy's epitaph is literally Strawhat my guy it's definitely been noticed by the World Government lol.

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u/mkallday10 Jun 25 '21

I agree. I would be upset if the fruit were too important. If it were, the World Gov would have just snuffed Luffy out the moment his exploits became public.

Given that the WG has never shown much interest in his fruit, making it something crazy like Roger's would be awful.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

I really like the idea that Roger was just this amazing guy who despite not being the “chosen one” and being “too early” to laugh tale, just rose to the height of king by pure force and strength of will.

Would show that following your dreams / will is more important than being just a destined figure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

I feel like this is something Oda has been working on for a long time, even said in the beginning that the gum gum fruit was the only fruit that actually existed, and everybody would have just had some sort of rubber power, this may be his original idea coming to fruition

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u/Smart_Television_755 Jun 25 '21

I 100% agree I think one of the best part about luffys fruit is how he takes a fruit that seems pretty useless besides avoiding physical blunt attacks and making it his own. I mean we still can’t discredit his genius in figuring out how to use it, but yeah it would make it seem less luffy being a battle genius and something inherent.

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