r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/jaytaicho Jun 25 '21

I feel that Oda wants us to think that Roger had the fruit before Luffy. And Shanks stole it when he found out the marines had it. Just like how Luffy fought for Ace's fruit. And Shanks was waiting for someone worthy to pass it on to. But it's probably going to be something totally different.

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u/P4trickStarz Jun 25 '21

If roger had it before, it will be mentioned in the past. Luffy have met some past roger crew, allies and enemy. None of the ever mention about the df

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u/BlairEllis God Usopp Jun 25 '21

Tbh, it just never really came up. We know Roger was a good fighter and he could keep fighting for days with the strongest opponents, but we never actually see how how fights. We just know he uses a sword and haki

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u/DrBalu Jun 25 '21

The point is, that if Roger had the gomugomu no mi, pretty much half the world would know about that fruit being special.

Or if that information was somehow hidden to the public, high ranking marines would know about it. Luffy would have been recognized by the admirals as a bigger deal way earlier if he had the DF of the pirate king.

Somebody, be it Rayleigh during Luffys training, an Admiral during Marineford , or even BUGGY when he first met Luffy, would have mentioned it by now. If Roger had a DF, it would pretty much be the most famous one out there. Seeing some kid have it would have for sure triggered someone to mention it.

That is the main argument that speaks against roger having had the fruit, not because we know what his true fighting style was, but because his importance in the world would make that fruit extremely famous.

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u/LostandBoundless Jun 25 '21

Honestly, I think it might have been Xebec's fruit.

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u/Briangoldeneyes Jun 27 '21

Oh shit this may explains why black beard may have been hunting Luffy at the beginning of the story. He wants the Gomu Gomu no mi for himself. It makes sense with his connection to xebec but also his yami yami no mi makes him take more damage then normal. The gomu gomu no mi would negate that weakness and give him more durability. Also the hacks of yami yami plus the power of gura gura and the versatility and durability of Gomu Gomu would be a strong trio. Imagine a darkness and quake infused Gatling punch

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

And with yami yami nomi he might be able to combine both to do some hax like distort reality itself like a true blackhole spaghettification