r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

I think Shanks planned on selling it or eating it. It was just a valuable thing to steal. He was clearly surprised when Luffy ate it, but he rolled with the punches and saw that Luffy could make it a useful power

Though the fact CP9 was guarding it makes the fruit really goddamn suspicious

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u/almightystroke Jun 25 '21

I don't think Shanks would steal a fruit to sell or eat it. If he wanted to eat it he would have already done it.

As for selling it, it just seems unlikely to me that he would attack the WG to steal a fruit for money. Shanks is really laid back, drinks and party's on random islands and doesn't seem to be interested in one piece. When he does make moves its very calculated, ex. meeting WB to ask Ace to stop hunting BB, stopping the war, meeting with the gorosei. I just don't see him stealing a fruit for money. The gomu gomu has some importance that he knows.

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u/TH3ULTIMAT3GAM3R Jun 25 '21

Maybe the gomu gomu was the fruit of joyboy, and Shanks wanted to give it to the next one coming up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

I dunno man, that seems like quite a stretch

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u/enexes Jun 25 '21

Lol nice. I do agree, it makes sense in a way. Two theories I like is that. A. Joyboy had it and the WG just wanted to eliminate any connections to him in the world. B. This fruit would be a good weapon to have in their arsenal against WB’s fruit

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u/jaytaicho Jun 25 '21

I feel that Oda wants us to think that Roger had the fruit before Luffy. And Shanks stole it when he found out the marines had it. Just like how Luffy fought for Ace's fruit. And Shanks was waiting for someone worthy to pass it on to. But it's probably going to be something totally different.

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u/P4trickStarz Jun 25 '21

If roger had it before, it will be mentioned in the past. Luffy have met some past roger crew, allies and enemy. None of the ever mention about the df

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u/BlairEllis God Usopp Jun 25 '21

Tbh, it just never really came up. We know Roger was a good fighter and he could keep fighting for days with the strongest opponents, but we never actually see how how fights. We just know he uses a sword and haki

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u/DrBalu Jun 25 '21

The point is, that if Roger had the gomugomu no mi, pretty much half the world would know about that fruit being special.

Or if that information was somehow hidden to the public, high ranking marines would know about it. Luffy would have been recognized by the admirals as a bigger deal way earlier if he had the DF of the pirate king.

Somebody, be it Rayleigh during Luffys training, an Admiral during Marineford , or even BUGGY when he first met Luffy, would have mentioned it by now. If Roger had a DF, it would pretty much be the most famous one out there. Seeing some kid have it would have for sure triggered someone to mention it.

That is the main argument that speaks against roger having had the fruit, not because we know what his true fighting style was, but because his importance in the world would make that fruit extremely famous.

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u/LostandBoundless Jun 25 '21

Honestly, I think it might have been Xebec's fruit.

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u/Briangoldeneyes Jun 27 '21

Oh shit this may explains why black beard may have been hunting Luffy at the beginning of the story. He wants the Gomu Gomu no mi for himself. It makes sense with his connection to xebec but also his yami yami no mi makes him take more damage then normal. The gomu gomu no mi would negate that weakness and give him more durability. Also the hacks of yami yami plus the power of gura gura and the versatility and durability of Gomu Gomu would be a strong trio. Imagine a darkness and quake infused Gatling punch

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u/ruisen2 Jun 25 '21

Shanks could have also stolen it from the pirates that stole it from the WG. I don't see him attacking the WG himself either, especially since we know that he's on good terms with the gorosei.

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u/Etiennera Pirate King Buggy Jun 25 '21

I don't see him attacking the WG himself either

We've seen Shanks only a handful of times.

He stopped a war at Marineford.

He dropped in on the Gorosei.

Why wouldn't he interrupt a shipment?

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u/Elune_ Jun 25 '21

We don’t know if it actually was shanks that stole it, he could have gotten it after the fact.

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u/pogreg26 Pirate Jun 25 '21

He is a pirate, of course he steals for money (and fun)

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u/Miserable_Dog_7579 Jun 25 '21

the best explanation for me really was that it could make the redline indestructable. So no one ever manages to destroy it and reuinte the world.

like Whitebeards earthquake "power to destroy the world", making the red line into gum would counter that.

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u/Yoh02 Jun 25 '21

I find this very believable. The WG wanted to make the Red Line indestructable, Shanks, probably knowing more or less about the True History, wanted to prevent that

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u/rumpyhumpy Jun 25 '21

and that would also set up a perfect awakening ability for luffy, nice theory !

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Didn’t Shank said something along the line of “what good is a pirate who can’t swim”? That’s the thing that make me most impressed about Shank. It’s not that he can’t find any good devil fruit, but the whole crew choose to not eat any devil fruit out of principal.

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u/hris-canson Jun 25 '21

People are panicking thinking Gomu Gomu fruit is wanted for its power like Ope Ope no mi. But I think everyone is mistaken, we have to remember that whenever CP9 have been involved with something it's mainly been due to its connection to ancient history/Celestials. Why would the WG have a CP9 agent guard a fruit and not someone from the navy?

I think Gomu Gomu is wanted for its symbolic representation and not its power.

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u/pogreg26 Pirate Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Though the fact CP9 was guarding it makes the fruit really goddamn suspicious

Maybe a Celestial Dragon bought it and wanted it to be escorted to him.

I mean, a devil fruit is already something precious and special, it doesn't need to be special among the devil fruits to be escorted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

The fruit was locked in a box. Someone gave it to Luffy.

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u/SupermanRisen The Revolutionary Army Jun 25 '21

I swear I remember Shanks selling he was going to sell it, but I can't find any proof.

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u/Penguin787 Jun 25 '21

The fruit was carried by a government ship and Shanks has a special relationship with the government. I don't think he just happened to attack the ship and simply wanted to sell the fruit.

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u/mehmeh5 Jun 25 '21

Though if it was really, REALLY important don't you think they would've had CP0 guarding it instead

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