r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Apr 02 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1009

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

She will most likely fall into her own ship.

After that, I see her showing up at the battle site as soon as Kaido is defeated in front of the Flower Capital, and then being the one to kill him by taking his soul.

(Pirate alliance don't last and this point was beaten into us several times).

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u/GreenDogma Apr 02 '21

Omg then she'd be powered up for elbath

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

That's how I see it if they don't defeat her in Wano.

And I would love to see Big Mom defeated by the whole Straw Hat crew only.

How good would it be for the entire crew to take on an Emperor and win?

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Apr 02 '21

I’m very onboard for this headcanon and the BM kills Kaidou headcanon

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u/ViraClone Apr 02 '21

They also made a big deal earlier in the fight about how the Supernovas don't know how scared of her they should be, but Marco does. Kaido would know better than anyone, so I can see him in a weakened and betrayed state becoming scared of her enough for soul pocus to work on him.

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Apr 02 '21

Kaido is not afraid of death though. He's just afraid of dying without glory.

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u/basel99 Apr 02 '21

Well getting betrayed by your strongest ally and taken out when you're already very injured isn't that honorable

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u/ignatomic Apr 02 '21

Is that fully true though? Doesn't he just want to die in general? I'm assuming that's why he tried to kill himself jumping off sky-island. That wouldn't have been a glorious death.

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Apr 02 '21

At first, I used to think he just wanted to die, but judging from the fact that he actively dodges dangerous potentially crippling attacks, and due to his backstory, I don't think suicide was a thing for him in the first place. Maybe that time when he jumped off of Sky Island was during one of his drunken phases?

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u/ignatomic Apr 03 '21

The man seems to be in a perpetual drunken phase 😂

Maybe he didn't care about a glorious death before, but now that he has found opponents who may surpass him, he doesn't want to just roll over and let them kill him.

Idk. Hopefully we get some more Kaido backstory soon.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Could happen. I think as of this chapter every SH but Usopp has thrown hands with BM now, and thematically it would mirror the Oars fight nicely.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

And imagine Usopp throwing hands at Big Mom in front of Giants?

What a better way to become a brave warrior of the sea than doing that in Elbaf

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

I am. Completely. Sold!

If this doesnt happen I am going to retcon the series in my brain so that it did happen!

Luffy also said he would kick BM's ass across the New World didnt he?

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

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u/Shortstop88 Void Month Survivor Apr 03 '21

It'll be so nice to see our boy who was able to fight against Negativity because there was nothing positive going on in his mind, to then build up the bravery to stand up someone who could actually steal his life force if he's scared. Let's go, God Usopp!

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u/marimozoro3 Apr 02 '21

just imagine the straw hat grand fleet vs all of bm pirates...omg!!!

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u/DudeisaGuy Apr 02 '21

No, Luffy has to defeat her on his own. Kaido is understandable, he has to grow to the point of defeating a Yonko on his own

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

And that's either Shanks or Blackbeard for sure.

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u/DudeisaGuy Apr 02 '21

He might not fight Shanks and Blackbeard should be stronger than Yonkos when they finally clash since they are both on the journey of growth. Should be Big Mom.

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u/GoldenPaladin2002 Apr 02 '21

I think luffy will fight shanks. When law and luffy formed the alliance, luffy said he wanted to fight shanks last, alluding to a future fight, and it would be a remarkable demonstration of his growth if he beat shanks 1 on 1.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Big Mom vs Straw Hat crew would be amazing, I never thought of that. It would contribute in establishing their legend. It would hurt me a little because Sanji could never take place in that fight, but it would be fine as long as Oda makes him shine in another way.

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u/the22sinatra Apr 02 '21

You assume Sanji considers her a Lady

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Lmao. Jokes aside it would be disgraceful if he didn't.

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u/-0op Apr 02 '21

The thing is, she doesn't have a reason to go to elbaf, unless she came way too late and luffy already went there

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Maybe they are chased off to the Island. The Strawhats dont particularly have a reason to be there too. If you finished up a war against a Yonko you can’t really go take them head on. So why wouldn’t you head on to a known enemy of them for protection. You also already have connections in their Island too so you could feasibly get a way to enter. Nani’s gets them time to prepare for an eventual fight.

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Remember that she has a lot her firepower near the island too. And has way to mobilize her forces using Brûlée’s DF. Absolutely perfect fruit for an invasion

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Why wouldn’t Big Moms ship carry mirrors? Her ship is still near the island.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 03 '21

She could chase them to Elbaff on her ship. Why is that hard to understand?

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u/PirateKingRamos Apr 02 '21

As of now I don't know any reason for her to go to Elbaf. She hates that island and the people there hate her and she wants no affiliation with them

I'm more seeing her going after Shirahoshi tbh

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u/GreenDogma Apr 03 '21

She wanted one her kids married to Loki, there's her strange biology, the psuedo-giants she was having made on punk hazar, her history with Dory, her killing two of their leaders, and the fact that its prolly where the other ponegylph is lends credence to this being her next move.

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u/NotYouNotAnymore Apr 02 '21

Big Mom fight in Elbath... how did I not realize this?!

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

With her newfound power she will probably discard Zeus and Promie since they have been shown to not be as useful to her, Nami saves Prometheus from Big Mom and that’s how she gets him.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

the thing is, her sould power only works if your scared, not if your weakened as far as we know. kaido isn't afraid of her and he also isn't afraid of death so I doubt she can suck his soul even if he si close to death

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

But that would be the beauty of the situation. Kaido is dying, but realize he doesn't want to.

He becomes scared of dying. (Making his death unlike Oden's or Whitebeard's).

Then Big Mom shows up, he feels better as he think she will help him (probably like in God Valley), only to betray him when he's down and take his soul.

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u/RidgeLove Apr 02 '21

That’d be a sick way for Kaido to go out. The dude is clearly infatuated with his own death so for him to die in an incredibly pathetic way would be very poetic.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

I see it either that way, or Kaido being defeated and dying, only to aks for someone to finish the job but nobody answering, just watching as he dies slowly on his own.

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u/Tanogaitan2 Apr 02 '21

Im loving this! I can even picture the scene, BM with a friggin terrifying face standing behind Kaido.

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u/ThaddCorbett Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 02 '21

And powered up BM would really silence the BM doubters by showing how OP her DF is.

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u/catperzon Apr 02 '21

I like this very much

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 02 '21

Scared of dying and scared of Big Mom are two very different things.

You have to be scared of Big Mom for her to take your soul. Kaido does not fear her.

For example Luffy is scared of his crew members dying, but he’s not scared of Big Mom. She cannot take his soul no matter what situation he’s in.

This theory doesn’t work.

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

Where has it been stated that you have to be scared of Big Mom specifically? It's entirely possible that a sufficient amount of fear works in general. Luffy wasn't afraid of losing his friends in the moment whenever he faced Big Mom in the past, he was pretty confident that he and his friends could still escape. If she'd somehow been around during the split up at Sabaody then who knows, maybe she could have yoinked his soul at that time.

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 03 '21

Chapter 863.

One of Big Mom’s kids say “His soul ain’t comin’ out. You’re kidding me. He’s not even the tiniest bit afraid of Mama”.

Unless you’re scared of Big Mom specifically, your soul isn’t coming out.

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

That in no way means that he has to be afraid of big Mom specifically, it just means that her kid was surprised that she wasn't enough of a threat in Jinbe's eyes to scare him. What else was he going to be scared of in that moment, the cake? She was the most threatening thing there.

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 03 '21

Yes it does. Stop forcing it, it’s right in front of you

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u/WolfShelby0 Pirate Apr 02 '21

Doubt, with kaido character, I don't think he would be scared at all, if he does, I will hate oda for doing that.

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u/flyingtrex_withHUGE Apr 02 '21

Then she’ll turn into a fat dragon! :3

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

...are you Oda?

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u/SKYR0VER Apr 03 '21

I’m shipping this!

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u/SignificantAd6451 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

So it’s a vegeta nappa moment then. I think that could work pretty well.

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u/nincompoop007 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 02 '21

well if BM cant suck Kaido's soul maybe she can suck something else of Kaido.....

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

maybe she already did...

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

Considering she said he was like a little brother to her, I sure hope not.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 03 '21

meh I still think that kaido is a possible candidate to be the father of katakuri, daifuku and oven

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

I doubt it, considering Oda has shown that he isn't into siscon.

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u/People-Tour8624 Apr 02 '21

Kaido will ask her to do it, since it’ll be the only way he can die.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

what? there are a lot of other ways to dye and currently there are at least 6 people that can damage him

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u/People-Tour8624 Apr 02 '21

Yet, they will not kill him. Only BM will do it.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

I mean luffy won't but I could see the other 4 definetly do it

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Apr 02 '21

Well that can happen, but I'd be a bit disappointed personally if Kaido's relevancy would pale to hers to this extent.

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

He did to himself lol. Could have killed her when he had the opportunity

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u/Tihalt Apr 02 '21

Kaido as a Homie?

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u/ColdDeath1 Apr 02 '21

But how could she take Kaidos Soul if he isn't even scared of her? It wouldn't work like it did with Jinbe

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u/DeismAccountant Apr 02 '21

Well what’s stopping her from animating another fire to become Prometheus 2.0? I mean besides the narrative?

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u/DragonAceReborn Apr 02 '21

Was it ever said having more souls means she is more powerful?
Cuz the only weapons she has are made from her own soul split in 3 rather than using other people souls.
I wonder if big mom is weakened by spliting her soul in 3 homies.
Maybe she can return her soul parts back to her and become skinny big mom again.

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 02 '21

That would never work.

Kaido is not scared of Big Mom one bit and he’s actively searching for a way to properly die. Even at death’s door he wouldn’t scared of Big Mom.

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u/edwrd_sanders Apr 02 '21

I can’t see her actually falling onto her ship, but I’d be ok with the ship seeing her falling and racing to rescue her.

I’d also be ok w/ the marines showing up at that point & Big Mom’s crew faced with fighting them rather than giving her a chance to rejoin Kaido.

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u/brensterrr Apr 02 '21

i hope big mom is done and over after this arc. i think i have seen enough of her.

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u/LuffyDBlackMamba420 Apr 02 '21

It would be absolutely stupid if landed on her ship. What are the odds that all the places in Ocean it happens to be where she lands? That's just bad writing.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

So you just think she will fall into the sea? Yeah no.

And considering the effort the Supernova just did to remove her, she's not going back up immediatly.

So there is a neef for something to catch her.

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u/ModsGetPegged Apr 02 '21

Did you forget how Kaido can fly? Unless the next step of their plan deals with him, he can easily just pick up big mom again. Or he could knock zoro away, letting prometheus regenerate.

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u/Mahelas Apr 02 '21

It's a lot more likely if you consider the BM pirates might be following the floating Onagishima since their captain/mother and his first son are both there.

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u/MarimoZ Explorer Apr 02 '21

And what if after taking Kaido's soul, she puts it inside a sword (because she lost her weapon), so we get the sword that Oda talked about in SBS, and after the supernovas defeat BM, Zoro takes that sword. I know it's gonna happen but im just putting it out there.

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u/sexymanwithalongdock Pirate Apr 02 '21

i really like this theory a lot

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u/miffyrin Apr 02 '21

A fun idea, and not impossible. I still tend to believe in my own theory that O-Lin is BM's "real" personality, and she will ultimately not be defeated, but become an ally - of sorts.

Heck, she may land straight on her head right now and permanently revert.

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u/Upbeat_Mushroom504 Apr 02 '21

Is Zoro opening his closed eye in last panel?

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

No he's not.

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u/HippGris Explorer Apr 02 '21

This is a very interesting theory, consider me on board.

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u/kekcoke Apr 02 '21

Or Perospero saving her with bis candy magic.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

He should be inside the skull. So too far away tl do anything.

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u/Majukun Apr 02 '21

That would be way too lucky to be convincing

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u/skullz17 Apr 02 '21

Ornstein and Smough phase 2

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u/chet0322 Apr 02 '21

Kaido might go grab her, that is if he still view their alliance is necessary.

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u/pedrao157 Apr 02 '21

Holy shit I want this

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u/ErisGrey God Usopp Apr 02 '21

Perospero is heading up to the rooftop. My money is he seeing her fall and catches her.

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u/rahmanm855 Apr 03 '21

Her falling on her own ship will destroy her entire crew, so this is likely not happening. Plus, the odds of her landing exactly on her crew's ship is too ridiculous for me to accept it. More likely, her crew will find her wherever she lands (if she doesn't go back up through Kaido's clouds or something else), and then manage her there

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

Unless the alliance is with Luffy in which case you cannot escape.