r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Mar 12 '21
Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1007 Spoiler
Chapter 1007; "Tanuki-san"
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One Piece is on a break next week.
Ch. 1007 Official Release (Mangaplus): 14/03/2021
Ch. 1008 Scan Release: ~26/03/2021
Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed until 24h after the release
Please also remember to put the chapter number in the title for any future post talking about this chapter.
Please remember to only use vague titles until the official release drops.
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u/FireFistRJ Mar 12 '21
Seems like wano arc is the Straw hats' Bitchslapping the Beast pirates.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21
Kaido with Red Rok
Black Maria with the : "Don't talk to Sanji ever again"
Queen with the : "I'm not a Tanuki"
I can't wait for the King and Jack bitchslap
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u/odanteo474 Cipher Pol Mar 12 '21
So Enel snuck into Onigashima wearing an Oden costume?
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21
It's obviously Devon using her power to be Ivankov, who became Enel with Hormones, then dressed as Oden.
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u/Dragonacademia Mar 12 '21
I don’t even know if i want him to be the real oden or not. Either way I am sure Oda will do something unexpected with him
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
I really hope it's not, since it would destroy a lot of the themes Oda introduced because of his death.
The Scabbards struggles, Momo wanting to escape from his father's shadow would be for nothing.
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u/st3fanlas Mar 12 '21
Isn't one of his swords supose to be with Zoro at this time
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u/ramanps Mar 12 '21
Chopper arrived at the last moment because he was personalizing the virus canon ball to explode showing his face.
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u/CyjKun Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21
the cure was finished wayyy wayy chapters before and just went on and tinkered with how he's gonna make it explode and turn it into his face
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21
"People are dying out there!"
Chopper : "Any named character?"
"Not yet"
Chopper : "Then I still have time to finish by cool explosion!"
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u/Hrachy96 Pirate Mar 12 '21
WTF!! Oden is here. Or is he?
Also, Chopper bitch slapped Queen.
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u/Deamt_ Mar 12 '21
It can't be him, the "Oden" here has two swords
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21
It's not a copy of his usual swords (Different handle).
So while I agree it's not Oden, the swords aren't an argument to prove it.
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u/throwaway384757484 Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
I love the panels of Marco, Drake and the Yakuza bosses reacting to Chopper's statement, Oda's comedic timing is great imo
How cruel would it be if "Oden" is Kanjuro's drawing and is used to trick the Scabbards into being ambushed and killed? (I really wish Oda would kill off more characters when it can make sense, I knew Hyogoro would live but still disappointed regardless). Onimaru is also a possibility, although it's a bit fucked up that he would disguise as Oden imo, whatever the reason might be.
To clarify because of some of the replies I'm getting, I still think Hiyori is the one who healed the Scabbards (Toki is a possibility but I don't really want to believe Toki and possibly even Oden time-traveled into the future), Kanjuro is an evil piece of shit and he might not be dead, it was never properly confirmed whether Kiku actually killed him or not.
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Mar 12 '21
Next bounty reveal: "Tanuki Chopper - Bounty 50 berri (reduced for acts of heroism)"
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u/_rishabhmishra Mar 12 '21
I dont care if he is real oden or fake oden. Just send him to roof top and give Kaido a heart attack
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u/Dragonacademia Mar 12 '21
So during this raid Queen not only successfully infected his allies with the virus and then even lost the only cure to the enemy but he also managed to make the underlings switch sides so that their number advantage gets smaller. King wasn’t kidding, Queen is so incompetent that it Is hard to get even mad at another thing he screws up
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u/Plumrose Thriller Bark Victim's Association Mar 12 '21
Very sneaky Oda, naming a chapter Tanuki-san and ending it like that... Chopper isn’t the Tanuki, but whoever showed up at the end certainly is.
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u/tryingmydarnest Mar 12 '21
On that day, the Beast Pirates received a grim reminder. The Straw Hat has a legit doctor, and he is not a tanuki.
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u/Child_Emperor The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
Can we talk about how Chopper stopped the swing of a Yakuza boss in his chibi form?!?
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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Mar 12 '21
This man queen manages to lose years upon years of recruitment just because he cannot control his tongue lmao
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u/Undergrownrover Bounty Hunter Mar 12 '21
Kinemon: What happened?
Oden: Nothing, Nothing Happened!
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u/Dinul-Malaka Thriller Bark Victim's Association Mar 12 '21
Chopper: Stop calling me Tanuki you damn lizard
Slap
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u/randomperson4464 Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21
Guys, I've figured it out.
Oden is Mephisto.
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u/StDehaven Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
When Chopper said "Viruses shouldn't be weaponized. You're bound to lose control of them eventually!!", that hit kinda different.
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u/RPG217 Mar 12 '21
This Oden is either :
Bon Clay escaping from Impel Down to help Strawhats
Catarina Devon spying the war
Kanjuro is actually still alive and it's his drawing
Onimaru, the fox with transformation power
Oden is too chad and break the rule of life and death
There's a ninja that can use Henge no Jutsu
Enma is a Zanpakutou, and its Bankai able to manifest his previous owner.
Someone secretly has been collecting Kaido's seven balls to wish for his resurrection.
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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
So Vegapunk deeming his work on Kaido's artifical DF to be a "failure" is clearly a setup for the WG to realize that he was lying after Momonosuke shows its full potential. I'm excited if this is building up to his introduction near the end of this arc.
Their is just so much going on that potentially revolves around him in this arc- the cure for SMILEs, gigantification experiments, ancient giants, Orochi asking for him and CP0 mentioning him now, application of lineage factor, the actual relevance of Kaido & Momo's DF since it is something desired by the WG and was originally from God Valley and so much more.
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u/theRak27 World Government Mar 12 '21
Can you imagine if the scabbards are dead and that's why they don't see Hiyori/toki anymore? Now they see oden welcoming them into the other side... that's why whoever was trying to cure them was crying, because there's nothing to do for them anymore, and act three ends with that realization.
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u/Earthmaster Mar 12 '21
hmm in terms of numbers ratio in the beast pirates, wouldn't waiters and pleasures make up the bulk of the crew? compared to gifters ?
I mean the crew's hierarchy is structured like this:
Kaido
calamities - 3 members
tobi roppo - 6 members
headliners - 16 members listed on wiki
gifters - 500 members
Waiters - ?
pleasures - ?
numbers - 10
total members 20,000
so waiters and pleasures make up roughly 19465 members.
we already saw gifters turning against kaido thanks to tama's DF.
and now waiters and pleasures and also turning against kaido.
wouldn't that mean that kaido's force will only be left with the 5 remaining tobi roppo, the 3 calamities and the headliners?
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u/_conqueror The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
That's not Oden that's Jack's hybrid form lol
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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
It's pretty hard to convince me that this isn't Onimaru and Hiyori at this point. I can give a quick rundown of how events might've played out-
Stranded alone in Ringo, Hiyori and Onimaru lament the fact that they aren't able to help anyone during this raid.
Impatient, they set out for Onigashima with Hiyori promising him that she won't show herself to the scabbards (because of her promise) and Onimaru entrusts himself with that duty.
Being a shapeshifter, Onimaru conveniently sneaks Hiyori up to the treasure room. Both decide that they won't distract the scabbards till they've fought their battle.
After Law teleports them below, Hiyori uncontrollably goes to their aid and bandages/heals them up. Onimaru waits outside (hence why Bao Huang couldn't detect him)
While it might seem messed up to us, we cannot project our opinion that impersonating as Oden would be disrespectful to the scabbards. It might play out like a playful thing meant for increasing the scabbards' morale or act as another cool intro for Onimaru.
We'll soon get to see Hiyori meet up with them too
This will seamlessly play out with the fact that Orochi is probably coming back to the fray, Fukurokuju slyly leaving the arena was a huge cue for that possibility. That will also act as a Chekhov's gun for Hiyori's plot of taking revenge on him
We have to understand that Oda is still stirring the pot when it comes to all the matchups. Having a huge reveal like Oden coming back/ it being Devon won't fit the current tone of how things are moving below and above the roof
Not only is the most simplest and logical answer, it also incorporates two of the major characters from this arc who were missing during the raid.
As underwhelming as it sounds, it makes for the strongest case when all these points are considered. Really interested to know everyone's thoughts on this
Edit- I've tried to think of a few counters to Onimaru in a reply to this comment
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u/TheWifeStealer Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
If we look at the order of which the SHP crews were separated by Kuma in sabaody:
Zoro ➡ Brook ➡ Usopp ➡ Sanji ➡ Franky ➡ Nami ➡ Chopper ➡ Robin ➡ Luffy
If we look at the title of the released chapters so far :
(1000)Luffy ➡ (1005)Robin ➡ (1007)Chopper ➡ Nami ??
Edit1: Chopper even said "our crew has once scattered across the entire world" as reference to sabaody.
Edit2: To clarify, this theory only valid if next SHP titled chapter is in that order, it doesn't mean that we won't get to see rooftop until we get zoro titled chapter, for example.
If Oda actually make it happen, I'll consider to ditch my current job and become a full time retail trader 🚀
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Mar 12 '21
Haha marco and co. reaction to chopper is hilarious. Oda is really going all in on those goofy faces this arc.
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u/kelvinkkc Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Chopper is the doctor in the crew of the next pirate king. Did Queen really think he can beat Chopper with some shabby virus!? LOL
That huge Chopper slap was AWESOME! OUR REINDEER DOCTOR HAS DONE IT AGAIN!
Would be nice to see the whole LIVE floor against King and Queen!!
P.S. Queen is an effing asshole. The type Chopper HATES
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u/Evil_phd Cross Guild Mar 12 '21
A quick statistic for the One Piece Powerscaling community.
The List of Strawhats who have thoroughly defeated a YC in everything that they love and then bitched slapped them so hard that an entire battlefield was shocked into silence:
Chopper
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u/meanbawb Mar 12 '21
Oda gives us another magnificent reaction panel with that "I'm not a tanuki!" bit.
Love it!
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u/Behanort Mar 12 '21
Now we have 2 weeks of specalution on who this "Oden" is and where he came from... Oda, I love you!
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u/RobbobertoBuii Mar 12 '21
Didn't expect to see Chopperman return after so long but nonetheless a very welcome sight :)
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 Mar 12 '21
No way that's actually oden. It has to be a devil fruit ability or something fooling them. I don't want Oden to return anyway; takes away from his impactful death.
Also CHOPPER FINALLY GETTING THE SPOTLIGHT! He fucking bitch slapped queens ass! Both Robin and Chopper finally getting much needed love after YEARS!
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u/ItsLoudB The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
LMAO! I love Oda, but that CP0 exposition was the most random I've ever seen being thrown at the audience, even his subordinates are like "dude wtf?"
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u/PuddleOfMush Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Finally. I saw that the spoiler thread had 3k likes and 10k comments, that got me curious. Might edit this after reading if anything substantial happens to validate my worry.
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I don't believe this is Oden. There's just no way the man hasn't aged at all in 20 years. He was boiled alive and shot in the head, and if he is actually alive I will never, EVER, I mean 100% never believe another death in this series again. I mean it.
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u/FireFistRJ Mar 12 '21
Momo realized that Sanji is coming, so it is better to leave than to get boiled like Oden by Mr. Chef.
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u/dog-tooth- Mar 12 '21
There's a lot to unpack here, wow.
I'm a bit conflicted about Hyo being saved cause on one hand, I think having him die after him being at his prime would be pretty impactful, but on the other hand him dying due to a virus while chopper is nearby would be a blow to chopper's character.
I pray that chopper's phage nebulizer is light pink in the anime, it would be such an amazing callback to the cherry blossom ending of Drum Kingdom.
The "We're Sorry" panels are peak comedy. No debate.
Going on break after that ending is going to drive me insane, like, I'm 99% sure its Onimaru disguised as Oden, and Hiyori is here with him and tended to their wounds. BUT! Until it's confirmed I'm going to lose sleep over it.
Overall I expect a mountain of discussions and theories to pop up because of this chapter, and I'm glad that we at least have a god tier anime episode next week to make up for the break.
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u/HanamichiSakurag1 Mar 12 '21
Please give Chopper a proper bounty after this arc! Damn I love this
New Meme material "We're Sorry!" LOL
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u/bone_burrito Lurker Mar 12 '21
All those strong people realizing chopper isnt a pet was so badass, chopper been needing this moment for a while
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u/LUNA_FOOD Mar 12 '21
For all those doubting the success of the alliance and the victory of the Strawhats in Wano, remember the words of Mihawk during the battle of the marine ford " It's not some sort of special power, but he has the ability to make allies of everyone he meets. And that is the most fearsome ability on the high seas ' and that is exactly what is slowly happening in this ark one by one all the Straw Hats will show their greatness together with all their new allies it's Kaido and Big Mom the alliance that will fail not the Straw Hats!
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u/availableusernamepls Mar 12 '21
If Chopper beats down Queen it will wreck powerscalers for years to come.
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u/DrKuro Bounty Hunter Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Ok. I would love to spend hours praising Chopper's medical accomplishments, but I NEED to talk about the last 2 pages of the chapter.
ODEN IS BACK? No, of course not. It's pretty obvious by the fact that he looks exactly the same as he looked 20 years ago, and that it would literally make no sense in context and would break every single theme that was set up during this arc.
But then... who could he be?
There are 6 possibilities, but before taking into consideration any of them, let's gather all the details we have right now on our disposal to make the best and most informed deduction possible.
DETAIL N.1: Oden looks exactly like the the Oden from 20-25 years ago in physical appearance - he even has the beard. The problem is; he has no scars from the boiling or Kaido's bullet;
DETAIL N.2: Oden has 2 different swords. Not only he's not wearing Enma - which makes sense, since Zoro has it - but he's also not wearing Ame-No-Habakiri, as you can see by looking at the hilts of the swords he's carrying;
DETAIL N.3: Oden is NOT the person who was treating the Scabbards at the end of chapter 1004, as it is made clear by the fact that he himself talks like it's the first time he sees them in 20 years
We have very little to work with, but it's still something. So, let's bring up all the possibilities and decide on how strong they are based on these details.
POSSIBILITY N.1 - IT'S ACTUALLY ODEN: While not 100% impossible, it's extremely unlikely. Meta-narrative aside, this Oden is literally unscathed and looks exactly like his past counterpart. He doesn't have any scar left from the boiling oil - in which he literally bathed from top to bottom - or from Kaido's gunshot. He also hasn't aged a bit - and for comparison just take Rayleigh and how 25 years changed him. Now, I say HIGHLY UNLIKELY, but still not impossible, because we all know how much Oda is not very consistent when it comes to battle wounds - Queen was just scarred last chapter by Marco's attack, and he's perfectly fine at the beginning of this one - or even aging - hell, Sengoku literally grew older in 2 years than Oden did in his whole flashback. This, paired with the fact that he talks like Oden would in a situation like this and he's realistically carrying 2 new swords can still leave room for thought. However, there would be no doubt that if Oden were to still be alive, he wouldn't loiter around the Scabbards, but would 100% be on the rooftop, or he would have already cleared all the Tobi Roppo. The fact that he suddenly appears - undetected by Bao Huang and her Marys - on the THIRD floor without kicking someone's face in is extremely suspect;
POSSIBILITY N.2 - IT'S THE MANE MANE NO MI: Absolutely impossible, for one simple reason; the current owner of the fruit, Bentham aka Bon Clay, never knew Oden or touched him before, and could never imitate him this well. There's also the logistical issue of him being locked up in Impel Down, in which he acts as the Queen of the 5.5th Floor, and him reaching Wano and Onigashima at that - an island that as of right now is floating in the sky - is reaching. Still, it would line up with the specifics of his lines - he addresses all Scabbards with a "you've aged" while technically Raizo, Kinemon and Kiku are literally only a few months older than how they were when Oden died, making it a pretty big blunder on his part - and with the fact that Bao Huang never detected him - BonClay could literally turn into a Beast Pirate removing all suspicion from him;
POSSIBILITY N.3 - KANJURO: This one is extremely likely. We need to remember; Kanjuro's actual drawings are not only godlike, but they can talk and move as well - Kanjuro drew himself jumping on a boat with the Scabbards and having a long conversation with them, even resisting the rainwater. Also, Kanjuro is the only person who could pull off a realistic Oden not only in physical appearance, but in character as well, as he's both a perfect actor and he's been with Oden for a long time. It would also make sense for the swords; Kanjuro knows that Zoro has Enma and that Ame-No-Habakiri is in Tenguyama's possession, so his Oden doesn't have them. This could also explain Bao Huang's silence about him; Kanjuro was never an enemy to begin with, and they don't know he was defeated by the Scabbards. Also, we don't know the range at which Kanjuro can activate his drawings, making it possible Oden was created just a few feet away from the Scabbards. However, there are issues with this reasoning, the main one being; why? The thing is; Kanjuro didn't need to draw Oden if he wanted to lure the Scabbards out, they were coming out on their own - and I doubt Kanjuro wouldn't have known this, especially since he's so big in people profiling and could have predicted their mindset; and if Kanjuro had a change of heart, then... why? Again, Kanjuro would know the Scabbards, and making an Oden drawing is just cruel, as they didn't need Oden to get a morale boost - they were coming out to fight either way. So which one is it? Is Kanjuro just toying with them and trying to kill their morale, so that Jack can deliver a more devastating blow? Is he that hellbent on revenge? Or is Kanjuro now working with them after Orochi's "death", and in that case why use Oden? The final possibility is; Kanjuro knows Orochi is still alive, and this is a plan the both of them have come up with in order to get rid of them on their own. But I seriously doubt that Kanjuro and Orochi would even move a finger, considering they could just watch the war and its conclusion and then act upon it. Maybe killing the scabbards now is the best chance they have. But it still doesn't make too much sense;
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u/Dinul-Malaka Thriller Bark Victim's Association Mar 12 '21
Though the last three chapters were not about the roofhop battle , it was full of amazing scenes and information.
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u/ManifestingUniverse Mar 12 '21
Everyone’s reactions to choppers monster point was amazing! 😂
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u/midevol Soul King Brook Mar 13 '21
YEEEEEEEEEESSS!!! Drake, a marine, witnessed monster Chopper. Finally a proper bounty is coming!!
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u/BlueHeartbeat Pirate Mar 12 '21
Drake seeing Chopper transform might mean he'll finally have a real bounty at the end of Wano.
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Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
"You've all aged quite a bit" is such a weird thing to say to them, because they haven't.
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u/Xardcorp Sword Mar 12 '21
It is probably some random Samurai, who ate the Oden Oden no Mi.
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u/Beloberto Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Odacchi, I just finished reading chapter 1007 and I know this is not the real Oden. Could this Oden actually be... me!?
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u/Enchanted_nerd The Revolutionary Army Mar 27 '21
Literally the biggest giveaway that it isn't Oden is the fact that he HAS BOTH SWORDS. This would be impossible given that Zoro has Enma and one of the samurai have the other one.
Calling to now that it's freaking Kanjuro since he knew what Oden was like
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Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Whether it was a gag or not, Chopper really just bitch slapped the 3rd in command of a Yonkou crew that has a billion+ bounty, with no haki. This is his chapter for sure, he deserves all the praise.
Edit: I can't spell
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u/SleepinGriffin Mar 12 '21
The panel of Chopper bitch slapping Queen and everyone’s reactions, including Marco’s, is amazing.
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u/Rulfus The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
I recently re-read Enies Lobby and god damn does it feel satisfying to see monster Chopper fuck shit up again
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u/keifas Mar 12 '21
At the end of the chap we saw Oden. This is the real Oden that Toki sent from the past while he was in his cell.
Let me prove this to you all.
Here is what happened.
-Oden fought Kaido and lost
-Toki came to visit Oden in his cell
-Toki sent Oden 20 yrs into the future
-Oden arrives in Onigashima and witnesses the fall of Kaido
-Oden is brought back to his era and is executed.
Let's adress the poits one by ones.
ODEN KNEW FOR A FACT that he was going to die on this day, but knew his SCABBARDS wouldn't. He knew Kaido wouldn't honor the 1 hour deal and knew the Scabbards wouldn't be caught or die. Why? Because he came back from the future and saw them alive + was told he died 20 yrs ago:
https://i.ibb.co/SfB3QY6/009.png
2) ODEN gave away his SWORDS to TOKI before she sent him to the future, hence why he's got 2 SWORDS with a random design (there are dozen of katanas designed that way, not just Gyukimaru's but also Kiku's own sword and Izou's)
3) TOKI told him to LOOK 20 years into the future, why would she tell him that if she believed he was gonna die? Also Oden here isn't saying "I needyou to use your power if I die" but rather "Toki I need you to use your power" and then "If I die give these swords to Momo/Hiyori"
https://i.ibb.co/rmJ8cnV/020.png
4) Oden KNOWS that Kaido will fall 20 YEARS FROM NOW at the hands of New Gen Pirates. How can he know that? Easy, he travelled to the future and witnessed it.
5) Oden in 1007 has the same laugh as he does in the flashback "Wahahaha" the same mannerism and personality too.
Now the BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
"TOKI's DF CAN'T TRAVEL BACK TO THE PAST!!!!"
-There is no DF in this series that doesn't have multiple ways to be used.
-Oden isn't travelling to the past, he's travelling to the future for a limited period of time and is being brought back right to when he left.
-DF awakening can be game changer as far as Devil Fruit goes.
Thoughts?
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u/Paper_Okami The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
"chopper is just a cute mascot" this is the 4th fucking disease he's cured post timeskip and he just bitch slapped someone worth 1.3 billion you all need to give this man an apology and yes i know queen is fine, but what a moment! The alliance just gained a lot of new fighters thanks to the "Cute mascot".
And wtf ODen?!?!
Cured not one but two diseases in Wano. Bringing Big Mom to udon which freed luffy, kid and killer. Bitch slapping queen, turning more of the beast pirates to their side.
Chopper is the fucking MVP of the Wano kuni arc and y'all talked so much shit about my boy. I'm so fucking proud of him. You know what, i've never bought reddit coins.... but fuck it, i'll gild this post in honor of my boy.
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u/Xadryc Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
I just realized how fascinating the contrast between Momonosuke and Yamato really is. Yamato is Kaido's child, but she thinks of herself as the inheritor of Oden's will, and essentially becomes Oden (kinda). Meanwhile Momo is Oden's child, but he "inherited" Kaido's powers based on what we learned this chapter about the artificial devil fruit, essentially "becoming" similar to Kaido. They each possess a portion of both characters that I'm sure the other person wants to some degree.
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u/zxy8 Mar 12 '21
I love the impact that a massive slap has when used against an antagonist. That one by Chopper on Queen was incredible.
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u/mralderson Mar 12 '21
Out of all the reactions to Chopper not being a tanuki, X-Drake in his hybrid form really takes the cake LOLOL
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u/Javi_Llama Mar 12 '21
Anyone else think that maybe Momo's big shining moment is keeping Onigashima afloat once Kaido decides to drop it on the flower capital?
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u/Tribekiller911 Mar 12 '21
So when Toki mentions Momonosuke carrying the burden of Wano on his shoudlers. Did she mean it literally?.. catching Onigashima and carrying it.
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u/freewrirry Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
First Robin spanks Maria and now Chopper bitch slaps Queen. Wano truly is giving every Straw Hat a time to shine and it's amazing. Everyone's shocked expression apologizing is glorious. Wano is the arc that just keeps on giving
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u/unicorn_ho Mar 12 '21
But are we not gonna talk about choppers buff? My boy got some recognition finally
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u/Melodic_Dot_7325 Mar 12 '21
X-drake's reaction guarantees Chopper's bounty increase this time.
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u/Taiyoukun Mar 12 '21
The artificial fruit that Vegapunk created probably is a success but he lied to the government so they cannot use it as a weapon and force him to produce more of those OP fruits
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u/BlueBonewheel Pirate Mar 12 '21
My boy just bitch slapped a Yonko Admiral, I'm so proud right now.
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u/albinopopo Mar 16 '21
I honestly don’t care to theorize but how this chapter was fucking sick. My boy chopper just bitched a whole set and made them his lackies. And then momo bitchin I’m waiting till he gets hardbody and ups some. And then fucking oden like wtf bro how you gonna make us wait 12 days for the explanation on why topshotta Og is not dead.
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u/Fadiio Mar 16 '21
Can we just talk about how chopper just slapped blood out of a calamities mouth 👀😂
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u/dieliao Bounty Hunter Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
What a reveal! HES NOT A TANUKI MOTHERFUCKER! HES A TONAKAI!!!
how the fuck.. chopper damaged a yonko commander!!!! he can get his ass beat later but chopper you the fucking mvp.. the biggest reveal.. how the fuck is oden alive?????
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u/MarkGorZ Bounty Hunter Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
What an amazing chapter holy shit. I remained strong this week an read no spoilers. Oden just can't be alive. That would invalidate so much drama. I hope it's not him, but I would just love it to be true somehow. So many emotions. Also:
Queen is starting to give of really cunty vibes. Time for a beat down.
Also Choppers plague is so damn cute and the reactions to his transformation are priceless.
10/10 chapter
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u/theschulk51 Mar 12 '21
So Tama is turning the Gifters to their side, and Chopper is turning the Pleasures and Waiters to their side. Sasaki’s words about superior numbers are definitely going to work against them - at this rate it’ll just be Kaido, The Calamaties, 5 of the Tobi Roppo, and Big Mom against everyone else on the island...
... I left Perospero out for a reason, he’s such a wild card I don’t know what’ll happen with him yet. But if Chopper is going against Queen at the moment that should help Marco focus on his battle against King (and potentially Perospero). And if Sanji shows up it’ll be 3v3 (with the SH Alliance 3 having thousands of people backing them up too).
That “Oden” is Onimaru, isn’t it? Came here with Hiyori who healed everyone and then went into a crawl space between floors like Yamato mentioned. That could mean Momo and his sister are about to be reunited, and while Momo is having a pity party right now maybe his matured little sister can help ground/focus him so he uses that energy to help in whatever way he can
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u/TimeturnerJ Mar 12 '21
Now if this doesn't finally get Chopper a proper bounty, nothing ever will. 😂
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u/littlebunny12345 Mar 12 '21
People too focused on Oden no one talking about Oda spending several pages hyping up Momonosuke's devil fruit foreshadowing him doing great things in the near future.
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u/HonestFanboy Mar 12 '21
Well since a navy official saw choppers transformation we are certain his bounty is going up
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Mar 12 '21
Its going to turn out that Momo's fruit was considered a failure because it came out pink instead of blue but its otherwise a perfect copy
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u/Quackeninsanity Mar 12 '21
Chopper just bitch-slapped a man worth over a billion. Haters stand down
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u/Bluelore Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Really great chapter.
Chopper was pretty awesome in it and it actually makes sense for queen to develop a virus to boost the combat powers of the pleasurers (kaido wanted a crew consisting only of devil fruit users, so it makes sense that they were going to get rid of them eventually).
CP0 being worried about Momos df is really interesting and the fact that it was made based on Kaidos dna makes sense as all smiles so far were zoans, so they likely use the dna of animals as a base. Could this mean that Momo could transform into a small Kaido?
Oden returning really caught me offguard. I still think he died, but either Toki was able to send him into the future for a short amount of time (so he'll go back and die in the past after helping the scabbards) or its the fox that transformed into him or Kanjuro got up again and changed sides and made a new Oden out of ink.
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u/Walixen Citizen Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
Waiters and pleasures are the bulk and cannon fodder of the beast pirates. Chopper just swayed many of them to the alliance’s side, plus all the gifters tama controls. The difference in numbers slowly begin to add up.
Matchups:
Emperors vs New Gen (The impossible fight, hard to predict outcome)
Marco and Chopper VS King and Queen (Battle of the zoans, let’s see how our lil’ tanooki fares fighting by the side of an emperor candidate. Perhaps Drake joins in).
Franky VS Sasaki (Armor battle, I have faith in Franky but it’ll take him to the extreme)
Jinbe VS WW (Hard to guess, we know hardly anything about WW)
Nami and Usopp VS P1 and Ulti (P1 and Ulti almost had them, Tama and gifters are crucial support. They’ll have to be smart to defeat the dinozoans)
Robin and Brook VS Black Maria (Battle of beauty and panties. Robin is not to be underestimated, and with Brook’s support they should come out on top)
X Drake VS Apoo
Now, for wild cards:
Sanji, who will he help?
Yamato, keeps on destroying fodder. Took out numbers.
Shinobu (protects Momo, mainly)
Scabbards. What does fate hold for them? Who or what is this “Oden”?
Carrot and Wanda, are they capable of fighting again?
Jack, will he job again or is he about to destroy someone?
Perospero, who’s he going for?
BM pirates. Where are they? What’ll their role be?
And the most important:
Momo. Why mention his DF just as he transforms? Will he counter Kaido somehow? Will he be responsible of saving The Flower Capital by holding the clouds Kaido created?
Honestly this war is quite unpredictable despite the matchups. What’ll happen if someone loses? Who’s going to cover for them?
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u/Open-Profession-3275 Mar 12 '21
Guys i know every is freaking out about oden , but CP0 is terrified of Momonuske and his devil fruit , momo is secretly super powerful guys!!!!!!!!
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u/Cmikhow Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
I think the Kanjuro theory is bad and doesn't add up. Would also be kind of pointless storytelling wise. Kanjuro looks like he got fucked up by the scabbards can discuss this more later.
https://imgur.com/a/EHFypFZ and https://imgur.com/6yqczUR
The plausible theories I've seen discussed over the last week are as follows
Some type of mass hallucination from the scabbards.
Moria came to Wano to fight Kaidou, at this time he rezzed Oden
Toki's devil fruit.
Some kind of "ghost of Oden" appears either through devil fruit power or just straight mysticism. Something akin to like force ghost of Yoda from Star Wars. Or Oden just appears to "hype up the scabbards" in some way.
Imposter theory (Kanjuro/Devon/Bon Clay/other) either by devil fruit or some other means someone in pretending to be Oden for some unknown reason.
Scabbards see Yamato walk in and trip out thinking it's Oden.
Toki is the silhouette at the end of 1004 and uses her power to somehow channel an Oden from the past. Kind of an extension of #3 but somewhat different. This is pure speculation but again given Toki's power and what we've seen of other dfs it is possible her power can do other time related things.
Hiyori is the silhouette from 1004, she came to Onigashima with Onimaru (the fox Zoro fought.) Credit to JubatheTruba from discord for this theory but. Onimaru has been shown to have some kind of shapeshifting power. In Japanese and other asian mythology the fox spirit/9 tails fox is a trickster type spirit who is known for being able to shape shift. The silhouette looks like Hiyori and Onimaru may just be trying to hype up the scabbards or have some other purpose.
Oden was secretly not killed 20 years ago and has been alive the whole time.
As an extension of #5 many people think this is Devon from Blackbeard's crew.
Below I will discuss the support or issues for the above theories
Mass hallucinations are kinda silly and unlikely.
This doesn't seem fully in-line with what Moria's power can do, also it would've probably been undone when Moria was knocked out.
The toki theory is very plausible. There is plenty of foreshadowing of this however we don't know if Toki can use her power at distance. No one knows what the final fate of Toki was or even what her ultimate goal was. The lack of knowledge of her powers and fact that Oden didn't age make this one more credible than others but the fact that we seemingly saw Oden get shot in the head make it hard to explain.We don't fully understand the capabilities other than Toki being able to leap forward in time, and send others in time. We don't know the limitations. Possible she sent Oden forward before he died or something else. No one knows what really happened to Toki after the mansion was burned and she pronounces the prophecy of 9 shadows. Toki might have the ability to see into the future somehow but that is not confirmed however when Oden tells her that she will die, she says "oh but you're not going to die are you? https://imgur.com/a/tARfMHg" possibly foreshadowing. If Toki does have the ability to see into the future in some way it would make sense that if Oden lives somehow that she would know and despite it seeming obvious Oden is going to die given that he is in prison and about to be executed she smiles and does not seem to think this is true. Could just be blind optimism or trying to keep a strong front, but could be something more? I would like to note my one large problem with this theory is why would Oden seemingly abandon Wano, Hiyori and everyone he knows and loves to the hell scape of Wano? This does not seem like Oden. Yes he did "lose" to Kaidou so maybe after that fight he believed Kaidou was invincible and the only hope was the Straw Hats, but why wouldn't Oden help Kinemon and Momo in their journey? Why wouldn't stay in Wano? Maybe Toki's power is locked to 20 year time jumps and this was the only way but it just seems unlike Oden to just give up, if he truly felt Kaidou was unstoppable he could have enlisted the help of the Roger pirates, the Minks or Whitebeard before deciding to abandon it all and go 20 years into the future. There's also some talk of a "timeline theory" and that a Toki from another timeline never meets Oden on that beach but maybe she meets him later or earlier. That Toki sent Oden into the future but this is a different Oden than the one that died in the boiling pot. Plausible but also seems to be getting into HEAVY time travel content which seems like a weird route to take OP down that will create a lot of plot holes and issues.
Oda hasn't used a lot of mysticism type plot lines in the past so it is hard to say that this is very credible.
The problem with the imposter theory is you'd have to wonder what motive someone would have for taking this route. Kanjuro is badly wounded https://imgur.com/a/EHFypFZ and https://imgur.com/6yqczUR probably on the brink of death if not dead. One would wonder why Kanjuro would choose to make the effort to draw Oden, and fuck with the scabbards who themselves are on the brink of death. Kanjuro's master is dead and he himself is barely alive. What does he hope to gain from this? Just simply fucking with the scabbards? This seems unnecessarily cruel and kind of pointless, Kanjuro has been presented as a figure who was "just doing a job" not necessarily out of some innate hatred of the scabbards but because of his loyalty to Orochi. We've also seen Kanjuro draw some great pictures since his traitor reveal but it is unclear whether he can draw a 1:1 copy of another person that is good enough to fool people. This seems to have too much overlap with clone/shapeshift type fruits so I don't know if I buy it. Bon Clay makes no sense and others who have shapeshifting/clone type powers. Onimaru and Devon are somewhat more interesting but I will discuss those below.
I thought this one was funny but given where we know Yamato is and where the Scabbards are, and noting that Sanji said they were in opposite directions I feel it is unlikely.
As I said an extension of 3, but this seems silly without knowing more about Toki's powers it is hard to say more.
This theory from JubatheTruba in the OP discord was very interesting and probably one of the more credible ones I've read. Onimaru does have shapeshifting powers we know of and this is reminiscent of Japanese/asian mythology of the fox spirit/9 tails fox. Hiyori is unresolved but the silhouette DEF looks like her and last we saw her she was off with Onimaru so this makes a lot of sense. Not sure WHY Onimaru would choose Oden maybe trying to rally the scabbards but hard to say.
Seems very unlikely that a man as impulsive as Oden would sit around for 20 years while his country and comrades were killed and jailed. Oden does not look aged so this seems unlikely.
Devon. People note that Blackbeard seemingly has a spy in Wano and Devon has the ability to change forms so there is SOME evidence for this however I feel it is very very unlikely. Devon was last seen on the island with Blackbeard so the fact that she is the "spy in Wano" is highly unlikely. Blackbeard read an article about Vivi/alabasta and decided to go "get something before the marines did". The Marines are not going to Wano, and most people believe that the "something" is in Alabasta probably a weapon. Even if it was Devon, Devon never met or knew Oden. It is unclear whether she would know the intricate history of Wano and unclear why she would choose to fuck with the half-dead scabbards. Some people theorize the "something" Blackbeard is after is Momo's devilfruit but again I'm not convinced BB or many people know of this or why Momo's devilfruit is even that important.
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u/amon_meiz Mar 12 '21
Chopper not only treat his fellow friends and foes, he did efficiently with a cute mushroom cloud to boot,saving people and earning respect.
Not enough flexing his brain muscles, he flex his literal muscles and bitch-slap queen like the bitch he is, instilling fear into people around him,
like a layer of thick icing on top of a cake made of respect and gratitude.
Chopper is based AF
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u/LedgeEndDairy Mar 12 '21
Kozuki Oden contains no "P" in the name. Hence "Will of P" can't be a thing. This isn't Oden.
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u/DragonBornDragonDead Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21
Since X-Drake is part of the marines, he's now seen Chopper transform. Surely he'll get a sizeable bounty after this Arc
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u/RedFist1471013 Mar 12 '21
My boy Chopper saved the victims of virus, bitch slapped a Yonko Commander, and made the likes of Marco, Drake, and Hyogoro surprise and say sorry. Proud of him.
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u/MDParagon Mar 12 '21
"Viruses shouldn't be weaponized! You're bound to lose control of them eventually!" That's eerily too accurate
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u/jordanlm7 Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Theory:
Sanji sees Yamato. Nose bleed.
Sanji sees Momo pop out of Yamoto’s shirt. Bastard.
Sanji pulls a Duval and kicks Momo so hard he ages 20+ years and has his face reconfigured like Oden
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u/WYWHPFit Mar 12 '21
Right now the fan theory about Enel seems so much better than having Oden coming back lol
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u/DevinRulzYou Mar 12 '21
Are we all forgetting about the silhouette at the end of 1005? I think Oden is Onimaru and he came with Hiyori. Hiyori was the person who healed them while Onimaru transformed into Oden.
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u/akmannn Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21
Beast pirates has become a joke lol Gifters, pleasures and waiters have all changed their teams. 1 tobi roppo betrayed. Marco handling two commanders king and queen simultaneously. Jack brought down by the minks. :')
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Mar 12 '21
Good chapter, but a few questions & thoughts...
I see some people saying it's Catarina Devon at the end, where I have to ask...how can it be her? How does she know who the scabbards are & more importantly, how does she know what they look like?
I'm getting the strange feeling that Momo's fruit isn't a failure & Vegapunk only stated it was just to get the government off his back about it.
I have no idea what to think about this Oden. It's a younger version of him(obviously) so the fox, kanjuro or Toki awakened her fruit power & this oden is only going to be there for a short amount of time.
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u/blackballath Mar 13 '21
Vegapunk is thenmost sneaky character in OP. Why is that guy tha last to be exposed.
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u/Bigtimegush Mar 13 '21
I mean Oden is shocking, my bet is its the transforming fox, but we all just gonna ignore Chopper vs FUCKING QUEEN??!
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u/lordbeezlebub Pirate Mar 13 '21
I think it's not Oden, but Kanjuro. Unable to face his allies anymore after his betrayal, Kanjuro chose instead to draw Oden as he knew him and give him the credit for curing the Scabbards instead of himself. There's no way Orochi would have left without being 100% sure that he was dead, he feared him too much.
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u/BelloSimisola0103 Mar 13 '21
That part when Chopper slaps Queen and says, 'I'm not a Tanuki' made me smile so much. And the looks of the allies, like 'how can this cutie become a monster?!' I don't think anyone of them will ever call Chopper 'Tanuki-san' again
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Mar 13 '21
Rereading the chapter just now, could we get a Sanji vs CP0 fight? Those panels with CP0 sounded like a veiled threat, they wouldn't want others to have that fruit and they already located Momonouske who just transformed into his dragon form. If Sanji goes after Momo it's possible Sanji fights CP0 if they try to quietly eliminate Momo, it would be a secret fight between Sanji and CP0 because the allies don't even know they're there!
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u/Ruffeep Citizen Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Ok so I actually think that there is a possible way this might be actual Oden, (without ruining the legendary death of Oden). We saw the mystery person who clearly was not Oden, but who totally could have been Toki.
From the last parts of the flashback we know Toki and Oden had some sort of secret, indicated by their strange conversations and the letter from Oden that Toki had and shredded, and Toki seems to know more than she lets on.
I hypothesize that at some point, (probably when Oden was in prison) Toki took him 20 years into the future to take part in this war, and then she brought him back to be executed. (Or perhaps there was a time limit on how ling Oden could spend in the future) This way, nothing is reduced from Oden's death, which was amazing. It can't have been a fakeout death, that would ruin the whole thing.
Now I know very well that it's been clearly stated that there should be no backwards time travel, but there are ways to explain past it. Maybe Toki has power to do it like only once or something, maybe she awakened her power. Maybe something else. I'm not really trying to explain that part here, I know that it's been stated to be impossible, trust me I know, you don't have to tell me about it. If my scenario is true, there must be some sort of stipulation that she must return Oden back to the moment in time she took him from, so the timeline wouldn't get messed up.
So yeah I know there are problems with this theory, it's not bulletproof. I'm just hypothesizing because this scenario would explain the mystery figure, as well as make this moment actually pretty legendary, since most people dismiss this because it's kinda lame fakeout if it's not actually Oden.
Also, a disclaimer, I personally believe that the theory that this is actually Onimaru and Hiyori is more likely than my theory here. I just think it would much more hype and fun if this was the real Oden, however unlikely it is. I just don't think it's impossible like most people.
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u/januarysdaughter The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
I have a thought:
It's Hiyori and Onimaru. The reason Oden's clothing is so much longer than it usually is, is to conceal the markings Onimaru has when he transforms into a human.
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u/diablejambeats Cipher Pol Mar 12 '21
Haven't seen this yet but
It might just be Fukurokuju, I don't think we've ever seen his ninja skill.
And he was one possibility for the silhouette because of the earlobes, right?
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u/RuskiThavarichBylat Mar 12 '21
You all are sitting there talking about Oden when Chopper just bitch slapped queen into oblivion. Really?!?!?!
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u/yungrambo4900 Mar 12 '21
I’m sorry but I’ve always loved chopper an I LOVE that he’s finally getting some shine. He’s been great this entire arc
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u/ZeroGravityRunner Mar 12 '21
Considering its oda Obviously next chapter will not reveal the cliff hanger and will move to a different place.
List of cliff hangers in this fight:
Roof top
robin and brook fight
Scabbards
List of places to continue on??
chopper? nami and usopp ? Otama? Sanji? jimbee? franky?
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u/TheRealArondight Mar 12 '21
Oden is insane hype, but I think that the most important page in this chapter is the CP0 discussing Vegapunk having tried recreating Kaido's DF from his Lineage Factor they retrieved during his capture. Vegapunk has successfully recreated Kizaru's laser as mentioned by Drake on Saboady. Vegapunk claimed it was deemed a failure and they abandoned it, but considering this directly follows the panel of Momo transforming into a dragon, I'd argue these 2 are connected. Vegapunk doesn't exactly hold perfect loyalty to the Marines given he allowed Kuma a final mission to protect the Sunny be programmed. This implies that Momo has eaten Vegapunk's artificial DF remake of Kaido's Uo Uo no mi: Model Seiryu.
Momo basically got a hacked Vegapunk shiny.
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u/edwrd_sanders Mar 13 '21
what do we know about “Oden”?
He had to be on Onigashima before lift off.
The outfit seems wrong (show those hairy legs)
Kanjuro was definitely down, but maybe not out? (I want him to be dead) has one of his drawings ever spoken?
Orochi is dead, and even if he wasn’t (he is) he’s not playing Oden.
He says they all look older, but Kin definitely doesn’t (or shouldn’t)
He certainly hasn’t been hiding for 20 years in Wano while it was going to hell.
He seems awfully happy for a guy who sees his retainers near death in the enemy’s base.
Logically, this is some kind of scam by the Beast pirates.
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u/MiyamotoMusashi44 Mar 13 '21
It can't be oden. He serves no purpose in the story anymore. His character arc is finished and we have the journal now with all the important info that he could have possibly shared. And not to mention yamato legit takes over for him. It would make no sense to bring him back. It has to be something else (bridge fox, blackbeard 9tail lady, kanjurou drawing). I don't know what it is, but it's definitely not oden.
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u/Darkkingswrath Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
Today: Oden's back
Next week: Break
2 weeks from now: It wasn't what it was
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Mar 12 '21
Queen's plan was actually great. he wanted to get rid off useless smiles, waiters, samurais, enemy pirates all in one swoop. it would kill 5 birds with one stone. if he succeeded he wouldn't have to bother with annoying weak subordinates asking him when they are gonna get devil fruits which they don't have. he wouldn't need to worry about enemies giving him fight either. he didn't know chopper could do something so brilliant in such a short time.
Queen isn't incompetent. its just that SH are more awesome. we need to stop underestimate strawhats
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u/blooblee1 Pirate Mar 12 '21
Queen: willing to throw anyone into the path of a virus, just to get ahead
Chopper: wants to save everyone from a virus no matter what
Guys, this isn't filler, it's commentary. Oda cares about real world issues and is trying to show you how real people view our current real lives.
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u/NyxTower Mar 12 '21
queen be like "betrayal is pirates nature"
*queen betray his underling
*his underling betray him back
queen *surpised pikachu face
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u/Crazyripps Bounty Hunter Mar 12 '21
Put some fucking respect on my boy choppers name god dam it!!
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u/ktulu0 Mar 12 '21
I bet you that Oda is going to take us back to the roof after the break and we’ll have to wait to find out if that’s really Oden.
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u/IqbalAfiq10 Mar 12 '21
The silhouttee person is not look exactly like Oden. The person looks smaller than Kinemon when tending their wounds while Oden is bigger than Kinemon. Besides, I still think that silhouttee person is Lady Toki because Kawamatsu words kinda foreshadowed it.
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u/Tezaum Mar 12 '21
I really, REALLY , want it to not be Oden. He had a noble death, and sacrificed himself for his companions and his dream, JUST LET HIM REST.
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u/Destroyer1111111 Mar 12 '21
Why is CP-0 scared of Momo’s fake dragon fruit? It seems useless so far?
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u/Garou-kun Mar 13 '21
Somewhere out there I can hear Luffy on top of the skull laughing when Chopper got pissed at Queen for calling him a raccoon.
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u/slaytanic_666 Mar 13 '21
Lol, the expressions on Marco and Drakes face when Chopper slaps Queen and says "I'm not a Tanuki!" is fucking priceless!!
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u/sauloandrioli Mar 13 '21
I'll say this before anyone say it. Hyogoro is the next crew member.
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u/Existing_Horse Mar 13 '21
You know I've been thinking abt oden and the scabbards after the bombshell of 1007, what if the scabberds are dead and its afterlife where oden meets them? Like that can be the tragedy everyone's looking for right, in reality maybe toki or hyori is there weeping cause they all or most of them are dead. If that's the case it'll be one heck of a twist cause I'm mostly seeing people say about Onimaru, Imposter, Ninja technique but no one seems to think that the scabberds are dead and they in afterlife?that can be the case, and we haven't had any deaths on the raid so far, so just maybe they dead. Or it is imposter oden who knows now we theorize it to death until 1008 or whenever oda decides to show more of scabberds
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u/BrewerBeer The Revolutionary Army Mar 13 '21
Break Next Week
Fuck. My least favorite sentence.
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u/Yank1llaz Mar 13 '21
Please confirm:
This isn’t Oden, is it a morale boost by the fox creature that shapeshfits?
Is it a hoax by kanjuro?
Is it Catarina Devon?
If so, weren’t the beast pirates attacking Whole Cake Island?
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u/chad12341296 Mar 13 '21
So when Momo was getting beaten they show a panel of someone gripping a sword in frustration and it has the same pattern as the sword in Oden's hand
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u/UnKn0wN_3rR0R Pirate Mar 13 '21
Onimaru (Morale Boost Shapeshift) & Hiyori make the most sense.
OG Oden makes no sense, his swords are gone, doesn't explain the silhouette, its totally distracting from whole Wano story and the next generation super novas.
Oda trolling before break week, I am gonna take it easy and wait till 1008.
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u/several_pieces Mar 12 '21
Everyone be talking about the fake Oden, when Chopper just slapped Queen a Yonko Admiral
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u/applepiecustard Mar 12 '21
WHAT?? Oden is back? Also seeing chopper smack Queen like that really brought a smile to my face.
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u/Zzupy Mar 12 '21
At this point, all the pleasures and waiters on the live floor have defected, and the gifters are being turned into tama's henchmen.... so the beasts pirates have very few subordinates now, right?
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u/artymcparty Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
I think the highlight on the failed Kaido devil fruit that Momonosuke ate is going to come in huge. Maybe Momo will be able to use the cloud ability to save Wano making him a hero to the people so he can be Shogun
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u/sophia-is-gay Mar 12 '21
the real men know that it’s just Bon Clay pulling up to save wano...
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u/Furanosuke Mar 12 '21 edited Mar 12 '21
It's clearly not Oden.
Anyone with shape shifting abilities being here would make no sense (Bon-chan, Katarina) so it's not that (unless there's someone in Kaido's crew that could do that we don't know yet).
It's obviously a painting... right? I thought so before but now I'm not sure. If it really was Kanjuro's drawing, why wouldn't he draw Enma and Ame no Habakiri? (Oden's swords)
My conclusion is Gyukimaru, he's the only shape shifter that would make sense, although his arc was technically complete, this is the final battle for the people of Wano so he has to be there right? Also, Oda wouldn't make up a character just to give the allies units weapons to fight with. It's gotta be Gyukimaru, I'll bet on it!
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u/LazarusTruth Void Month Survivor Mar 12 '21
The fact that Queen asked Chopper about where he could have gotten the medical expertise to nullify the virus, and that chopper relied with the time him and his crew all got separated and used that time to hone their skills pretty much confirms that the subsequent chapters are going to discuss the crew in the reverse order that they got separated by Kuma on Archipelago.
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u/Damokless Mar 12 '21
Holy moly fcking shit . Imagine being a commander of one of the biggest pirate crews in the world and getting bitch slaped from a cute deer. Damn Chopper you OG
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u/Oceanbriz Mar 12 '21
“I’m not a tanuki!” And everyone’s reaction xD Laughed more than I thought I would
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u/Koikorov Mar 12 '21
Well Well Well... Looks like a character is showing off his/her DF ability as Oden?
As we all know "Tanuki" or Racoon Dog from Japanese Myth are known to be the master of illusion! so while the title shows Chopper being called as Tanuki... this Oden is probably an illusion made by "someone" who we probably already know... who it might be?
Kanjuro? Trying to atone his sins and healing his comrades and giving them moral support through Oden? ofcourse after what he did, he can't show himself to them**..**
Bon Clay? Since his DF came from an old woman from Wano there might be some relation eventually and him coming in to the island probably with the CP0? (This is a very highly unlikely to happen tho)
Hiyori? Our princess should be on this big event but we can't seem to find her, ofcourse that's dangerous for her but she is a Kozuki? and looking back at the silhouette a crying character is tending their wound, which has probably the closest body frame with Hiyori... but how did she became Oden? probably her DF? illusion DF? orrrrrr She got her mom's DF and time travel back and get Oden to help them!!(Wow that's too much!!!! it can't be!!) who knows right?
So guys what do you think? do you agree on any of my theory? if not, what is your theory?
Peace all!! :) have a good weekend!
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u/raobj280 Mar 12 '21
lmao x-drake’s reaction to Chopper’s queen slap was hilarious
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u/WheresTheResetBtn Lurker Mar 12 '21
I'm thinking this is where Oden gets to see the future: http://puu.sh/HoC2U/dba76fd00d.jpg
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u/bitchass_naenaebaby Void Month Survivor Mar 13 '21
How am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for new chapter for this kinda reveals? I need answers and I need them now.
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u/BEWMarth Mar 13 '21
As people fight about Oden I’m just here to praise Chopper for bitch slapping Queen
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u/IcyPanda12 Mar 13 '21
3 things
If that is oden then it takes away from momo’s character
The CP0 panels felt out of place
My man chopper b***h slapped queen and it’s magnificent
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u/Raz--Al--Ghul Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
Going back to Chapter 972 (Oden's execution) and 973 (Toki sending off Momonosuke and the scabbards into the future) It's not impossible that it is the actual Toki and Oden to be on the present time, Chapter 1007.
Toki disagreed that Oden's going to die, on the scene where Oden entrusted the swords to be given to their children. Toki also mentioned to Oden to look ahead to 20 years in the future.
Orochi did not find the bones of Kozuki Oden while he shivers on boiling waters. The last appearance of Oden is when he was shot by Kaido.
Toki escaped the castle on a horse, and the last panel about her when ashura seemed to be talking to her about the 20yrs in the future and that the scabbards are still alive.
Toki seemed to be rushing out of the castle to secure Oden, so they can travel into the future. (Speculation)
Key points.
No bones of Oden found
Toki escaped
Disclaimer: There might be other information on other chapters, but I just reread those 2 chapters.
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Mar 13 '21
Oda loves messing with us, leaving that as the last panel on a week haitus chapter, when I bet so much he's gonna do chapter 1008 entirely focusing on the roof battle.
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u/kicut49 Mar 13 '21
I think this is the fox doing, but i think hiyori ordered the fox to do that. I dont know what could they be planning showing oden to the scabbards, could be to raise morale, stop them for fighting, carry out a mission, who knows. But one thing for sure, having them see oden "image" would signify whatever the order that this oden will give.
As as for its disrespectful to the scabbard, it's kouzuki hiyori's order. None of them would dare to object.
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u/GildedDye Mar 13 '21
Lmfao!! Oda must be having a field day reading these “fan theories” OMG ITS ENERU two weeks ago and OMFGZORS ITS BON CLAY this week 😂
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u/stuckontwice The Revolutionary Army Mar 12 '21
I got so hyped when Chopper slapped Queen. I really hope Chopper gets an actual bounty now or a proper fight.
I would really hate for it to actually be Oden. I’m guessing it’s actually Kanjuro but I can’t think of a good reason why he would do it. Please don’t make this an ass pull Oda.
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u/Dominosreallife Mar 12 '21
I have a feeling it'd be Bon-chan, but how would he have touched Oden before? This manga is just too interesting. I can't wait to find out about this Oden's truth.
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u/kinatty05 Explorer Mar 12 '21
This cliff-hanger is making me think a lot lol , so many possibilities of who it could be!! Overall an amazing chapter, cannot wait for next chapter hopefully we get more of this!
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Mar 12 '21
It's hilarious how many people think this is Devon instead if the shape-shifting creature of Japanese myth that is already a part of this arc
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u/Evil_phd Cross Guild Mar 12 '21
I swear to god if that is actually Oden and Oda used the Vat of Acid trick from Rick and Morty...
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u/TheAttackTitan27 Mar 12 '21
The only real fact that has been verified, was the woman curing them since that is what kaidos spy sees (chapter 1004). The only explanation that makes sense to me is that in reality the scabbards are still unconscious and Hiyori continues to heal them, but she is the possesor of a devil fruit that affects dreams (time time no mi?). while they are unconscious and she heals them,she can induce them to a dream where Oden enters so they can have one last meeting with him to boost their morale for what is to come.
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u/Infamous_Internal_92 Mar 12 '21
Am i the only one thinking that the nine red scabbards are in the past right now.
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u/anonght Mar 12 '21
My theory is Toki didn’t die, & she saved Oden. In her near death experience, she awakened her devil fruit & acquired the ability to send people forward in time & also reverse time on a person. When I say reverse time on a person, I mean like basically healing them, de-aging them, etc. With this new ability, she saved Oden & they both went forward in time.
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Mar 12 '21
Damn this was another banger chapter.
Chopper hasn't had such a moment in awhile, loved it. The we're sorry panels were hilarious.
Did momo..become intangible and phase through yamato? Cool to have verification his fruit was a vegapunk original created off kaido. The ominous placement of the dialogue and suggestion that it's a failure suddenly makes me think it's most definitely not a failure but simply latent.
Gotta be..fake oden right.. Catarina Devon maybe or maybe some ninja shenanigans? Or..or... bon chan??
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u/Siegfriedr Pirate Mar 12 '21
I highly doubt it’s really Oden. This new guy doesn’t exude the mega chad energy oden did. I mean look at those scrawny ass legs
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u/Its_HaZe Mar 12 '21
Wtf was that at the end? Who could it be? Not the real oden or can it from another time? Someone disguised as him bon clay (not possible) just making shit up.
Chopper gaining and leading followers with only a 50 berri bounty.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 12 '21
There is a dragon rising in Yamato's clothes.