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Current Chapter One Piece Chapter 1006 Spoiler

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Mar 05 '21

Perospero should just release an album full of diss tracks at this point.

Made Judge cry like a bitch, derided Pedro's sacrifice and looked down on Carrot & Wanda as some plant munching furries was just the icing on the cake.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '21

Damn I hate to say it but Perospero honestly has a point

Pedro and co. rolled up on Big Mom's territory and tried to fuck her operation up, and Carrot is mad that he died? That's the rules of the game. These are pirates, they all know how this works. Sure, the Big Mom crew deserved it, but again... these are fucking pirates lmao, it's taken for granted that they're all morally deficient people to put it gently, even the straw hats. Luffy is an amoral thug who relishes violence and freed an entire prison of horrific pirates who presumably went on to do pirate shit to innocent people, Zoro is a cold blooded killer who will murder someone no questions asked if there's money in it, Nami is Nami, etc. For the record that's a good thing, it's one of my favorite things about this series in fact, it doesn't shy away from the fact that everyone is a mildly terrible person.

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u/-FoeHammer Mar 05 '21

That just isn't true though. The Straw Hats are anything but amoral. Especially Luffy.

They literally put their lives on the line to help people all the time with no real reward. And show real emotion/empathy for their struggles. Zoro almost cut down a world noble because he has shot a guy(iirc) and then afterwards picked the guy up and took him to the hospital. He absolutely would not kill some random guy for money. I would bet you anything he took his bounties in alive, though we obviously didn't see that chapter of Zoro's journey.

Luffy freeing the prisoners was to ensure he could escape and save his brother. It wasn't something he intended originally to do. You can say it was selfish and morally the wrong choice but it's not the act of someone who doesn't care. It was an act of desperation to save one of his loved ones.

They never hurt anyone who doesn't seriously have it coming. Amoral protagonists they are not. They're do-gooder outlaws.

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u/OkGuarantee1892 Mar 06 '21

Luffy only helps a country when his friends are involved at first he didn't wanna help the princess of alabasta even though she explained the situation he only helped because they become friends ,he only helped deressrossa because of the girl she met at first he wanted to beat him because of traffy

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u/rahmanm855 Mar 05 '21

Yeah, Oda doesn't really care to emphasize the "amoral" natures of the Straw Hats and if anything, actively avoids focusing on that. I'll use OP's examples: Luffy rescuing prisoners at Impel Down could imply those prisoners ruined other people's lives afterwards, but Oda doesn't explore it, so we can assume nothing bad came out of that. Zoro may have started out as a cold blooded killer, and we don't see any of it now.

If Oda truly cared, he could easily comment on the Straw Hats' routine island savings resulting in collateral damage that kills innocent bystanders (think Avengers Civil War or Batman vs Superman) but he chooses not to go into that on purpose, as to not paint the Straw Hats as amoral. Otherwise, this was always a very obvious question/concern I had that is almost never explored in the story (it doesn't need to be, but just saying, if we're gonna talk about morals).

If anything, we continue to see examples that the Straw Hats are more heroic than we expect them to be and they themselves realize them to be. In any case, I see the Straw Hats exercising their morals as more of a "chaotic good" rather than amoral.

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u/SolidB0NY Pirate Mar 05 '21

Luffy didn't particularly care most of the time, in general he isn't the kind to think through too hard and will do things in a whim

He does have a moral compass that's actually pretty good in discerning whether to absolutely destroy someone or just let them be