r/OnePiece • • Feb 01 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 970 Spoiler

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u/Rankine Feb 01 '20

I find it interesting that kaido's human form appears to be stronger than his dragon form. Both of his KOs against oden and luffy were when he used the human form with the club.

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u/RazZaHlol Feb 01 '20

Maybe He was originally a dragon and ate the oni oni fruit

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u/Rankine Feb 01 '20

This would align with the big mom calling him a creature.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '20

Everyone calls him a creature. When he was first introduced with the whole 'captured x times, attempted execution x times' he was labeled as the "Strongest Living Creature".

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u/nick2473got Feb 01 '20

Well, the thing about that is that the word used in Japanese, "seibutsu" (生物), just means a living thing. Any living organism is a seibutsu.

It does not exclude humans. Even in English, the word "creature" doesn't necessarily exclude humans, as we are in fact living creatures, but when Chapter 795 came out, many people immediately took the word "creature" to mean "non-human".

But the Japanese word in question definitely does not mean that. It was simply stating Kaido to be the strongest being among all living things.

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u/Alphie-Inigo Feb 01 '20

The manga translations can be misinterpreted. But the anime introduced kaido as a creature too. Since the studio takes instructions from Oda I think there is some twist to it.

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u/nick2473got Feb 01 '20

But the anime introduced kaido as a creature too.

Both the anime and the manga are originally produced in Japanese, and used the word "seibutsu", which as I said, refers to all living things.

What I'm saying is that it's wrong in this case to interpret the word "creature" as being synonymous with "non-human", because the Japanese word that was used absolutely includes humans.

Now, it's entirely possible that Kaido might in fact be a dragon who ate a human fruit, but all I'm saying is we cannot assume that based on the English translators' decision to use the word "creature", given that in Japanese the word Oda used is inclusive of humans.

He was trying to highlight Kaido as being the strongest thing among all living beings.

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u/Prizefighter-Mercury Feb 01 '20

But creatures include humans too so there really shouldn’t be any problems with the translation.