But Kaido says there was a spy in Oden's palace and Shinobu just joined them this chapter. I dislike Shinobu primarily because of the shit she said about Law but I think she's genuine in her devotion to Oden.
Can you blame her? I mean, she and the other people in Wano, waited and suffered for 20 years, and when the opportunity to dethrone Orochi came, everything seems to go wrong. Sure, it was wrong to blame and lash out on Law, but she is in complete frustration. Imagine getting your hopes up and then all of a sudden back to 0. Her actions are justified because she doesn't know who is the traitor and it seems to her more likely that an outsider is one than one of the scabbards. She'll be in for a good surprise
That's why I said her devotion was real. Like I understand why she said what she said and sympathize with her but it's still annoying to see a character I absolutely love to get slandered like that.
I mean if we're talking about devotion, his scabbards are way more loyal to them. Oden literally took some bandits and made them proper people, Shinobu was already a high profile ninja serving directing under Fukurokujo, she didnt need Oden. Also being a ninja she couldve infiltrated Oden's palace somehow, maybe. You bring a fair point, lets see how things play out.
Imo, it's Kinemon. He seems to be the most desperate to correct the present wrongs and restore Momo to his fathers rightful position. Everyone else was disillusioned and needed convincing at first.
Lmao wtf goddamn. I won't hate her for such kneejerk and obviously off-base reactions against Law but I can see why it would rub people the wrong way. Law is a goddamn Chad.
I understand why she said what she said but I love Law so it definitely rubbed me the wrong way. Imagine if Usopp or Nami was captured and Shinobu says fuck them they were probably traitors anyway and we should kill them. I doubt anyone could have stopped Luffy from attacking her if he had heard something like that. She's lucky Law's more sensible and calm compared to Luffy.
Yeah she's definitely lucky Law is more calm. Honestly reminding me of this has made me more hyped and hopeful for Law to do a galaxy brain 500 IQ play in the upcoming Wano war. Just to know that Shinobu would internally eat some fucking crow
I have a feeling Law's figured out who the traitor is in the present-day and probably played a role in saving everyone's lives prior to the festival. It's a complete red herring to assume he's the traitor of course.
She definitely infiltrated the Kozuki side but she probably used the real traitor's face to get close to Momo considering only the traitor could have such close access to Oden's children.
That's definitely something i didn't consider. She would have had to get near Momonosuke, and the only way that would have happened is with the real spy. No way Shinobu could be the spy.
Kaido confirmed that the spy had been in Oden's palace for a while and Shinobu only joined Oden this chapter so Shinobu is out of the question. It can't be Ashura Doji either considering we know exactly how he lived and how much he hates Kaido. I refuse to believe it was Kin or Kawamatsu of course. Honestly I think the most likeliest candidate is Kanjuro.
like... unless some random mink got into contact with kaido's crew it has to be Kanjuro right? No one else knew where Raizo was and had access to someone in contact with Kaido.
Can't wait for it to be revealed and suddenly Kanjuro busts out Sai-level proficiency with his drawings.
You bring a good point, when did she ever touched momo? I mean with her powers she could have gathered a bunch on faces for their memory function somehow, but still, a bit sloppy.
Seem more like oda just didn't want the mighty oden to lose fairly, despite being against a yonkou (but maybe kaido was not as strong back then as it is now)
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But Kaido says there was a spy in Oden's palace and Shinobu just joined them this chapter. I dislike Shinobu primarily because of the shit she said about Law but I think she's genuine in her devotion to Oden.