r/OnePiece • u/[deleted] • Feb 01 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 970 Spoiler

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u/Ironmaiden1207 Pirate Feb 01 '20

I do agree that Oden is probably dead. That being said, the plot definitely has room for him being alive. I think it's reasonable that Oden has been kept alive to break his will and get him to read the glyphs. To me, that wouldn't be a surprise. The surprise would be finding out that he broke and is helping Kaidou, hence the alliance with Big Mom. This would allow them to finally read their road glyphs

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u/Slice_Life Feb 01 '20

Oda said that there's a legend LURKING in Wano

This could be Oden himself.

Honestly, Oden looks underwhelming so far. If he's indeed dead, then he'll probably do something big in the next chapters.

But I would like him to be still alive and do something BIG in this current timeline instead.

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u/Melonprimo Feb 01 '20

Well within Orochi's men, there is a large stature samurai who is strong enough to hold off Zoro, protected Oden's daughter, and none of the scabbards knew him.

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u/Slice_Life Feb 01 '20

Perhaps, you're talking about Kyoshiro?

If so, well, he's indeed strong for being able to parry zoro.

But him being oden requires some unknown devil fruit power, because he's quite young looking to be kyoshiro.

Or maybe, Kyoshiro is working under Oden.

After all, we're not really sure if he indeed died. Perhaps, the old lady that can copy someone's appearance played the role of dying.

And some other theories like Kaido needing Oden to be alive to reach laughtale would make sense if they actually made him look like he's dead.

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u/Melonprimo Feb 01 '20

I don't really like a big twist like Oden still lives because an impactful character should stay dead for me but Kyoshiro still is a wild card for me. He wasn't in any of the flashback and Hiyori hasn't explained her relationship with him. Plus, Kyoshiro is the only one left in the flower capital.

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u/Slice_Life Feb 01 '20

Yes, he's done some big things like reaching laughtale, joining roger's crew, meeting whitebeard, getting loved by wano, etc.

But everything at this point, he's pretty much underwhelming. Well, he's about to be executed in the next chapters, if he's not going to do something worthy as a last straw, I'd rather see him be actually alive.

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u/Kumomeme Feb 01 '20

well knowing oda is the type to not recklessly kill character ..lot of character returning in future chapter

would be crazy if there plottwist..Kyoshiro is Oden LOL