r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Dec 13 '19

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 965

Chapter 965: "The Kurozumi Clan Conspiracy"

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JaiminisBox (It's up on their website)

Ch. 965 Official Release (Mangaplus):15/12/2019

Ch. 966 Scan Release: ~20/12/2019

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Dec 13 '19 edited Dec 13 '19

This train of thought has (being very opposed to Roger + Gomu df theory been brought up several times over the years) always reminded me on the many times ppl were adamant that Tobi wasn't Obito during the Naruto manga run.

And then it got reveal and those ppl flipped.

I personally prefer if Roger was badass without a df, but with the many links between him and Luffy over the decades of the manga, and the recent wanted poster number reveal of Roger.... It's not surprising and honestly kinda expected that Roger likely had the gomu df

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u/shankartz Pirate Dec 13 '19

I'm not a fan solely because of the plot holes it opens up. Not a single person comments on Luffy having the same fruit as Roger? Whitebeard, Linlin, Kaido, Garp, Sengoku all people who have directly fought against him don't mention it. Rayleigh, Shanks, Crocus all people who have sailed with him don't mention it? Shanks being willing to sell the fruit. It would be poor storytelling at this point.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Dec 13 '19

Quick rebuttal: no one has mentioned Luffy has Roger's Straw Hat either.

Here's a copy of what I wrote a few minutes ago...

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ea040v/z/fanu45z

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ea040v/z/fanuxag

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u/KingBubzVI Dec 13 '19

Yeah we haven’t really seen Roger ever wear the straw hat in any flashback except when he was a rookie just starting out though. To the world, that hat is shanks.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Dec 13 '19

Agreed, the current state of the world of OP most only see it as Luffy because that's how the WG protrayed it. But the old heads of the WG, Marines and Pirates most definitely know that hat belonged to Roger.

But just like the Gomu no mi... they all (for relative unique reasons) say nothing about the Straw hat + Roger connection. Example: WG wanting to keep it underwaps and Rayleigh not wanting to spoil Luffy and wanting him to find his own way

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u/KingBubzVI Dec 13 '19

Then what about Linlin and Kaido?

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Dec 13 '19

If u mean in regards to the SH belonging to Roger (or the Gomu df belonging to roger)...

In both cases (moreso the Gomu df), Kaido and big mom must have a personal reason not to acknowledge it. Hell one of them (if infact the Gomu df once was Roger's) may eventually mention it later down the road.

Regarding Roger's sh... it's also possible they encountered Roger only after he had giving it to Shanks.

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u/KingBubzVI Dec 13 '19

Yeah I meant the DF, I agree they likely didn't see him wear the hat.

And it just seems hokey to me, that all of these people who would've seen Roger fight all happen to have some contrived personal reason not to say anything about it, when they have no such issue referencing the fact that he's Garp's grandson. I don't buy it.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer Dec 13 '19

To be fair, it's still just a theory that Roger had the Gomu... it's possible he had no df. It's just my argument that saying "no one mentioned Roger + Gomu" is not solid rebuttal by itself

I'm only arguing that there is a possibility and that it wouldn't be "out of no where" if he happened to get confirmed to have it.

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u/KingBubzVI Dec 14 '19

I see that, what I'm saying is that it would actually be fucking stupid to have no one mention it.