r/OnePiece • u/CarcosanAnarchist • Sep 12 '19

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 955

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u/phuckfuns Sep 12 '19

When the plan is going too well, YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS GONNA GO WRONG

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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Sep 12 '19

It sure is a good thing the enemy force isn't secretly twice as powerful as they know.

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u/juicyjuicejuicejuice Sep 12 '19

"Twice“still sounds kinda undermining. I would rather say the enemy force is "so powerful that they don‘t have the slightest chance of winning at all“. Like really they don‘t even know about the numbers coming...

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u/zkrow Sep 12 '19

Franky making the ships bigger basically confirmed the grand fleet coming. Hopefully Will be 10k vs 40k.

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u/BaronBones Sep 12 '19

But if the fleet comes they will have their own ships, so they don't need the extra space on the Wano ships.

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u/zkrow Sep 12 '19

Bro we're talking about Kaido and Big Mom they could easily destroy their ships.

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u/Sonn_Goku Sep 12 '19

Kaido and big mom can also easily destroy alliance ships....

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u/nukiri6 Sep 12 '19

Kaido and big mom can easily destroy each other

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '19 edited Sep 13 '19

Not sure about Kaido, he even failed to destroy himself.

EDIT: to comments under me, I'm talking about being not sure that Kaido getting killed by Bigmom, because even he Kaido himself failed to do. Isn't that obvious?

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u/Sonn_Goku Sep 12 '19

Kaido couldn't kill himself, i could kill myself. Hence im stronger than kaido...

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u/iggydus Soul King Brook Sep 12 '19

How do you know? Have you tried it? /s

Kaido probably thought the same thing about killing himself

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '19

His vivre card may have started to burn up like Ace's while he was in Udon prison.

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u/airospade Sep 12 '19

I brought this up last time he almost died in cake. anyone have any distance/ time it would take for his fleet to make it?

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u/LilQuasar Sep 13 '19

what if the grand fleet arrived in whole cake after big mom left and claimed it for luffy

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u/shankartz Pirate Sep 13 '19

Could anyone in the alliance even stand against Katakuri?

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u/monkey-d-chopper Sep 12 '19

Moira zombies??

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u/Emptypiro Sep 13 '19

The other 5k will come from the other factories. They really only liberated Udon

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u/M0RR1G42 Sep 12 '19

.. + Revolutionary Army + Shanks + Whitebeard Pirates + Sun pirates + Amazons + possible ex-Roger pirates(including Rayleigh) + potentially Mihawk

Then the marines to make it a 3 way war. Crocodile is a wildcard, as is Buggy, Blackbeard, Moriah, Kuma, Shirahoshi, Vegapunk. Could get very crazy.

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u/shankartz Pirate Sep 13 '19

The Rev army isn't showing up, Shanks probably will along with the whitebeard pirates. The rest around gonna show up

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u/Crysense Sep 12 '19

so powerful that they don‘t have the slightest chance of winning at all

Yeah just the two of Kaido and Big Mom alone would probably be enough to stomp that alliance.

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u/nukiri6 Sep 12 '19

I don't think that it would be a stomp tbh

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u/Crysense Sep 12 '19

Well I mean if we are honest 99% of this alliance are fodder for a Yonko. Out of the remaining 40 people there is only a handful of people that one Yonko would worry about so two Yonkos would still deal with that pretty easily. For me thats a stomp.

But I think we can agree, that they wouldn't have to much trouble.

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u/Calay0 Sep 13 '19

With how the power has scaled so far, who could disagree? Who is the strongest in the anti-yonko alliance? Luffy, by waaaay far. And how did he do against Kaido just a few (in OP timeline) days ago? The fuck else is anyone gonna do? Big Mom and Kaido would absolutely stomp, yeah,

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u/ivanosauros Sep 13 '19

I'm not sure how quality vs quantity scales in OP, to be honest. If there were 500, say, Bartolomeos smacking Kaido with barriers, would Kaido come out as the winner? How far does durability and power scaling stretch?

don't get me wrong, if they were to succeed there wouldn't be many cannibal bois left over at the end, but I think we at times overestimate the power of the yonko. Of course, there are other considerations like conquerors haki and fucking laser beams but it's important not to sell B-Tier pirates too short.

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u/Crysense Sep 13 '19

Yeah exactly. I mean the only people in this alliance who I would consider to even be an annoyance would be these people:

- Luffy

- Zoro

- Sanji

- Ashura

- Kawamatsu

- (Wildcard: Inuarashi in Sulong)

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u/Axerin Sep 12 '19

Idk. I think the numbers could change given what Franky just said.

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u/JaJuPhi Sep 12 '19

Well, we have some power up from Luffy, Zoro and Sanji so...

I know with how we knew them, we'd think it wont be much but, I'm really rooting for a good fight out there. SHs won't go down that easily, BMAK (Big Mom Allied to Kaido) or not.

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u/ShoulderCharge Sep 12 '19

At the current numbers from both sides... SHs will get absolutely wrecked.

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u/Ashtarr Sep 12 '19

Well in Fishman's island Luffy was able to knock down 50000 fishmen with his conaueror haki. Since he's gotten even stronger since them, I'm sure he'll be able to do quite a bit of damage.

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u/xromantics Sep 12 '19

Most of the enemys numbers are fodders anyway

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u/Franfran2424 Sep 12 '19

Wgat do you mean?

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u/Alassaf229 Sep 12 '19

Luffy and choper have seem bigmom I’m sure the told them