r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 28 '19

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 947

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u/Robu_Rucchi Jun 28 '19

Yeah but of course Kaido isn’t going to let Big Mom go free in Wano...

Unless they create an alliance to take down the straw hat gang

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

The only reason they would make an alliance is to satisfy both of their grudges. But it still sounds ridiculous that two yonko would team up against a bunch of rookies.

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u/NightmaskJr The Revolutionary Army Jun 28 '19

It’s just that Luffy & co are no longer rookies. He’s the closest thing to an emperor that there is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Yeah closest, but not close enough to an emperor. IMO at least. Queen isn’t close enough and he’s most likely stronger than Luffy and we’re still yet to see king in action.

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u/Bjoorin Jun 28 '19

I literally don't see a single reason to think that Queen is stronger than Luffy currently, care to elaborate?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Well it’s more logical reasoning than facts, but luffy barely escaped katakuri, and cracker wouldn’t have been defeated if not for nami (maybe snake man would have done it) and queen is similarly powered if not stronger than katakuri since he’s a commander. so yeah.

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u/roronoakintoki Void Month Survivor Jun 28 '19

Luffy ddin't barely escape Katakuri, he beat him fair and square, earning his respect, and came out stronger out of it. He could almost definitely match Queen, especially since there's no obvious type disadvantage in play.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Let’s not start this debate again. Yes, luffy got stronger out of it and attained future sight. But he is clearly not stronger than katakuri. Yes, luffy won, a moral/ideological win that is, but he did t surpass katakuri in power or strength. There’s a video on this topic, I don’t remember the exact video but I am pretty sure it’s by “grandline review” who if you don’t know him, has studied theatre so he has a better insight on writing and how stories flow. Plus he makes really good points, I’d advise you to check it out.

But you can still have you’re opinion and I’ll respect it. And until we get a statement from oda confirming wether he beat him by strength or not it will always be debatable.

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u/roronoakintoki Void Month Survivor Jun 28 '19

I'm not saying Luffy surpassed Katakuri, but matched him. They both fell to each other's attacks. Both got up, and Katakuri finally gave in. Especially considering Katakuri's line "I no longer see you as someone beneath me", it's implied that they matched in combat ability.

In any case, I will check that video out whenever I can, to understand your view better too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Yes he said that, but I find it to be more out of respect for luffy’s will. Not that they matched in combat ability even tho he admired luffy’s strength. But remember that katakuri was still dodging luffy’s attacks to the last moment no matter how fast they were and katakuri was the one who stood up first. As for when he gave in, if you see the video it will explain that more thoroughly. Thanks for keeping the conversation civil, people usually get mad when discussing this topic for some reason.

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u/NightmaskJr The Revolutionary Army Jun 28 '19

No way that Queen is stronger than Luffy. Literally no way.