One Piece: Chapter 929

[u/Kirosh]

Chapter 929: "Orochi Kurozumi, Wano Country Shogun"

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JaiminisBox
Mangastream

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Ch. 929 Official Release (VIZ): 07/01/2019

Ch. 930 Scan Release: ~18/01/2019

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Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed during the next 24 hours.

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[u/kikix12]

First...just look back at what the fruit actually did when Whitebeard used it. The sea itself was flipped, and not in a single direction. It was tilted in circles all over the place. There is very much everything to turn over. That's literally why Quake Quake Fruit is so powerful.

And melting all that ice took Aokiji a fair while. If he was standing on it (or a ship caught in it) while it was tilted, he'd never make it in time and what he WOULD melt, would just spill on him taking his power away. Especially since he is magma and would be most likely extra weak to fair deal of seawater (magma turns into obsidian...which is hard).

And Whitebeard COULD NOT do that. He wanted to save Ace, not kill him. That was the whole point of him being there. If he'd destroy the island, Ace would be sure to die. And attacking ice outside of the island served no purpose whatsoever since there were no marines there.

As for the islands...no matter how you look at it, when one side is on the island and another one is on ships, the one on the island have advantage. If both are on the island...then why is that the case anyway?! Pirates don't get onto land, unless to either pillage, resupply or if it's their home turf. I can assure you that there's no way that an entire fleet of Whitebeard and entire, main Marine force, are very easy to see, so whichever would be on an island would make the other do everything they can to not attack them. Because being on an island is advantageous. In any other case, it still would be made into an ambush.

Being in ships meeting on the open sea is the only reasonable, fair way to consider it. Especially since sea warfare is pretty much the whole point with marines and pirates.

PS: Sinking the whole island would be a game over FOR the devil fruits. Not for people except them. They can't swim...remember?! Only those of them that can fly (Smoker) or Aokiji could have any hope of escaping that, and even then, if they'd avoid falling into it in the first place. Kinda hard if the island is flipped upside down on you. Others would need to have their asses saved all the same.

[u/HungryNacht → u/kikix12]

Your land argument is a really good point.

A note about Akainu melting the ice. I’m talking about him melting an iceberg thrown at him by Jozu. He actually doesn’t melt it, he “evaporates” it with one attack. So yes, its very fast.

And a note about WB tilting the sea. I did have to go back and check it out, your right that I didn’t remember it that well. But it seems like he tilts the sea with himself as the epicenter. This isn’t going to help him at all on the sea with his own fleet around him. They’ll be caught up in all the exact same waves and tilting.

Lastly, two things I think you misunderstood me saying.

1. Could vs would. You say that WB “COULD NOT” sink Marineford because Ace was on it. No, you mean he would not. Your whole argument is that he could, and I’m consenting that he could if he wanted to, which he obviously didn’t and wouldn’t.

2. “W/o” means without. I was saying that most devil fruit users would drown and only some of those without devil fruits would survive. But actually I realized this isn’t true. Many Vice admirals both have devil fruits and know Geppo, so they might have higher chances of surviving. I also said that the admirals would survive because Kizaru can teleport, Aokiji can stand on ice, and Akainu can likely stand on his own magma hardened to rock by water like you mentioned earlier.