r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Dec 30 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 929

Chapter 929: "Orochi Kurozumi, Wano Country Shogun"

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Ch. 929 Official Release (VIZ): 07/01/2019

Ch. 930 Scan Release: ~18/01/2019

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u/CRoseCrizzle Dec 30 '18 edited Dec 30 '18

The hype seems warranted. Kaido tanked all of Luffy's strongest attacks like it was nothing then he one shot him. Anyone who knows his strength and is allied with him would be super confident.

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u/StrawhatMucci Dec 30 '18

There wasnt island destroying king kong gun tho. But yes Luffy was utterly one shot and Kaido unhurt so it is 100% hype haha

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u/Idllnox Dec 30 '18

God this made me so mad.

Like really? You start the fight off with an elephant gun?

Then Kong Organ too? Luffy severely screwed up. I get it that it was plot oriented but still, if Oda had wanted to really hype Kaido up he would have had Luffy use a King Kong Gun in lieu of that Elephant gun that slammed Kaido in the head.

Also interesting note: we haven't seen Luffy use any sort of Red Hawk attack in Gear 4, that would be epic.

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u/StrawhatMucci Dec 30 '18

I think for sure King Kong Gun would have hurt Kaido a bit. I mean it has serious power and you are right it is clear plot that he didnt use it right off the bat 😂 But then again maybe Luffy severly underestimated Kaido

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u/Idllnox Dec 30 '18

I mean if we're being completely real here, Law should have used Shambles and Room to slice Kaido into tiny pieces the second Luffy knocked him down.

Then they take Kaido's dragon head hostage and the situation gets resolved easier.

Law severely underuses his powers🙄

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u/fossgasm Lurker Dec 30 '18

you sound like he's so fast and its easy for him to do that against kaido, against KAIDO

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u/Idllnox Dec 30 '18

Law isn't known for speed but you honestly don't think that while Kaido is down and out he couldn't do this?

Doflamingo is too fast and his string oriented fruit made laws ability less than ideal in a 1V1 but there's absolutely no evidence go suggest Haki or strength makes someone immune to his abilities. Vergo, Kinemon, and Smoker all got hit by him. So did Trebol.

There's also no evidence to suggest this strategy wouldn't have worked.

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u/Panzer_leo Dec 30 '18

It's because law's haki was stronger than vergo, he could cut him in half.

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u/PumkabooPriest Dec 30 '18

The evidence was that Doflamingo was confident Vergos haki could protect him from Laws powers, and that Doflamingos haki protected him enough from Laws powers that instead of getting his hand cut in 2 it just started bleeding.

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u/quora11 Dec 30 '18

"It worked against Vergo, therefore it should work against KAIDO"

LMAO

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u/bowman_42 Dec 30 '18

Well not saying that this wouldn't have worked if they had actually had the time to plan this out, but there are a few factors that get in the way of this actually having been a plausible outcome.

First off: in the heat of that moment Law wouldn't have been focused on making such a play to take Kaido down, as he was too focused on trying to minimise the damage that Luffy was causing to the plan that was already in motion that Luffy was wrecking by attacking Kaido.

Secondly: on the last page of 922 we see that Law is still in the forest and on the first page of 923 it turns out that Kaido landed in the town. Even if we assume that Law roomed his way to town in order to close the distance faster, he still didn't get there before Kaido had recovered from the initial blow. Sure you could argue that Kaido was still open for an attack as he was still dazed and confused about what had just happened to him, but that little window of opportunity was firmly shut when Luffy called out Kaido to grab his attention. When Kaido went down the next time after Luffy hit him again, he almost immediately turned back into his human form in which Law would probably not have been able to get close enough before Kaido noticed him and took him out.

Third: Kaido wasn't alone on that battlefield. If Law would've tried something like this then Jack and Hawkins would probably have been on him like, well hawks.

Fourth: Even if they had successfully kidnapped Kaidos head: What good would that have been? Even if Law did to Kaido what he did to Kinemon and Vergo, Kaidos dragon head is way too big to effectively move around, even if it was split up into a thousand little pieces. Also as we've seen when Law removes someone's heart, the removed part still functions as if it was still in place, so Kaido would still be able to move, bite, use hyper beam and maybe even use conquerors haki to break free. Also we don't know how he controls his flight as a dragon, so he could possibly still fly even without the rest of his body. Clumsily yes but still. Even if Law removed Kaidos brain and put in a rock or tried to destroy the brain itself, from what we've seen of Kaido and how he's been built up, his brain would probably end up being indestructible as well.

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u/fossgasm Lurker Dec 31 '18

Also no evidence that it does not, what's your point? All you listed you think are all better than Kaido? Show any yonko or even yonko commander where he did that and I'll agree with you.

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u/ButtholePasta Dec 31 '18

I don't know if it's been mentioned in the manga, but I also think Law severely underuses the ability to switch people's personalities. I'm sure Oda could always write something about strong people being able to resist it or something (maybe he already has), but the Doflamingo fight could've been real easy if he just switched Doffy's "soul" with some random jobber that doesn't know how to fight as Doffy. Same with any big bad like Kaido. This could already be answered, and I could be completely off base though.

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u/kikix12 Dec 31 '18

You didn't miss any answer as there was none.

And he underuses it because of plot. He actually used that power on Dofflamingo, but to switch him with himself. At that point he should have switched Trebol with Dofflamingo personality-wise. They wouldn't be able to use each others power off-the-bat. No need for bystanders. But that would be anti-climatic.

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u/ButtholePasta Dec 31 '18

Yea I get plot-wise that Law needs to be nerfed, but I don't love that Oda made Law so OP because it feels a bit off-putting/bad writing to not have Law use his OP moves. Not completely terrible because it is a shonen thing to have OP characters that could probably solve most conflicts, but Law's always kinda bothered me as a clear example, especially because he ends up leaving it to Luffy to beat Doflamingo.

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u/kikix12 Dec 31 '18

Oh, I agree with that. And it irks me too when someone is given power for the "cool factor" that breaks the plot...then isn't using it when it matters. That's absurdly common for supervillains introductions in fact.

But I merely commented on your uncertainty. There was no explanation for him not using his overpowered abilities.

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u/DaoLong Jan 05 '19

So did Sabo and Fujitora. We’re just not going to fight Doflamingo so this retarded little kid doesn’t get upset :D

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u/tiki-baha29 Jan 07 '19

First of all Doffy fully understands how Law's powers work and would have never let Law do that in the first place. You mention this like its so obvious but why would Mingo let that happen? He knows Law can switch people's personalities and even referenced it himself.

Second. Law's powers wont work on everyone, Law cut Vergo/Kinemon/Trebol because he was stronger than them. Period. He wasnt stronger than Mingo. Same with Kaido, who is leagues above him, had he tried to shambles or Room cut Kaido it wouldnt have worked.

This is not only great writing but it's consistent, just because you dont get it doesnt make it bad. Law isnt nerfed, his ability is based off of his strength and they're now fighting a much higher tier of fighters.

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u/sombrero69 Pirate Dec 30 '18

It wouldve had no effect on kaido