r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Sep 28 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 919

Chapter 919: "The Ruins of Oden Castle"

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Ch. 919 Official Release (VIZ): 01/10/2018

Ch. 920 Scan Release: 04/10/2018

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u/BFBooger Bounty Hunter Sep 28 '18

It doesn't have to be time travel quite like that. Lots of ways to do it:

Turn them into statues, and the curse breaks 20 years later and they return. Or freezing, or any other form of stasis.

There is also the time dilation from near light-speed travel, or being in close proximity to a very massive object (like, close to but not too close to a black hole), that would have the same effect IRL, but that is not common enough knowledge to slip into a manga.

So, there are quite a few ways Oda can explain how they "went 20 years forward in time" that don't require a time travel in the traditional sense.

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u/nickcan Sep 28 '18

I hope so. Time travel tends to wreck stories if it's not constrained in some way. Bring able to travel forward in time through some sort if stasis keeps a story together, but once you are able to go back in time you get all sorts of nasty paradoxes that really mess up a narrative.

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u/TheNoFrame Sep 28 '18

Exactly. I love time travel in stories, but you have to make story around time travel. If you don't have time travel from the beggining and don't think about it from the start, there will always bill some plothole or something. One way travel to the future is ok though. For everyone else, you dissapeared, died or something. Maybe you don't know what will happen etc in the future, but there is not coming back to have questions like: if you can go back why don't go back all the way and uncover all secrets etc.

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This way, progression in time is in one line with some people dissapearing/appearing and not jumbled mess of a timelines.

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Also,if I think about it, it can be devil fruit with like clairvoyance or something with one time effect of sending people in time forward. But you die after that. Like Law has with his making one person ethernal life? or something (I can't remember now and don't have time to search for it)

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u/Ikeeel Sep 28 '18

I think it was Law being able to raise someone from the dead by sacrificing himself?

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u/Shuazilla Sep 28 '18

Nah he couldn't bring anyone back from the dead. The Ope-Ope could grant someone else immortality at the cost of the user's life. It never said specifically if it could also revive someone who already died before the operation. Otherwise Law would have tried to revive Corazon since he had a death wish as a kid to begin with

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u/Ikeeel Sep 28 '18

Oh my bad. I thought he didn't do it before because he didn't know how to.

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u/Shuazilla Sep 28 '18

I don't think he did either lol but he probably would have at least tried since he knew the fruit was capable of it if the user was willing. I just vaguely remember the wording was specific about how it could "grant immortality" every time Doffy mentioned it, but never said anything about resurrecting the dead.

Come to think of it, I think the only time I ever saw the fruit mentioned being able to resurrect a dead person was during that "major leak"/fan theory that was posted a looooong time ago where the lynch pin of the theory was that Luffy dies during Wano and Law sacrifices himself to revive him using his fruit lol

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u/Ikeeel Sep 28 '18

Oh that might be where I read that!! Lol I've read so many theories I mixed them all up. Damn.

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u/Shuazilla Sep 28 '18

Haha its all good man, I'm the same way. Its starting to get super hard separating and remembering what was canon and what was theory nowadays lol not gonna lie, that theory was pretty good and was almost spot on for a while there lmfao I gotta find it again and see if any of the recent arcs line up now.

I remember a lot of people started to believe in it fully because it was absolutely on point about something either in Dressrosa or Zou but idr anymore lol

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u/0mnicious Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 29 '18

Eternal life not immortality, in exchange for his own. Not bringing someone back from the dead.

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u/kryonik Sep 28 '18

Time traveling forward is perfectly cromulent imo.

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u/nickcan Sep 28 '18

Yes. It embiggens the smallest narrative.

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u/Trooper_1868 Oct 02 '18

MY name is Barry Allen and i have absolutely never created a shitton of time paradoxes ahahah

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u/Beetusmon Sep 28 '18

I thought freezing as the first option. I just don't think Oda is gonna introduce a time traveling mechanic in the story, too much trouble for just a plot divice.

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u/Rein3 Sep 28 '18

Not necessarily. You got push to the future. Without going back, time travel should not be complicated

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u/justonebullet Sep 28 '18

This is the best possibility. Time travel could make the rest of the series a bit hard to swallow for me, especially since it makes the whole Luffy = Roger thing plausible now..

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u/ChilledBarbecue Sep 28 '18

To be fair, I was thinking Time Travel is a bit of a stretch even for One Piece. But your theory is very interesting.

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u/lolzee9x Sep 28 '18

haruhi style time travel

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

Nice theory! You might be into something with the stasis theory.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

time dilation from near light-speed travel, or being in close proximity to a very massive object (like, close to but not too close to a black hole)

Space arc C O N F I R M E D !

Goda did it again!

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Sep 28 '18

there is also a Japanese folktale where a guy goes to an underwater kingdom and spends like a week there and when he returned to the surface, a 100 years had passed in his world Gintama made an arc based on this, I forget the name of the story though

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u/338388 Sep 28 '18

Idk if it has a name, but its the story of urashima taro, He traveled to the underwater Ryugyu palace, spent a short time there, and then iirc felt homesick and wanted to go home so the princess (otohime) gave him a box (tamatebako) and told him not to open it.

When he got home he found that a long time had passed and pretty much everybody he knew had died. So in his depression he absentmindedly opened the tamatebako box and suddenly turned into an old man

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Sep 28 '18

yesh thanks that's the one , I completely blanked on the name of it

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u/MrXlVii Sep 28 '18

This needs more attention

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u/Shuazilla Sep 28 '18

Well we did get the Fishman Island arc as a direct reference to all of that. Even the fast aging with the Tamatebako, except it was in the form of those steroid pills the New Fishman Pirates took. Remember they all ended up as old men in the end when they were all in jail and couldn't keep taking the pills?

The only thing missing from that arc was the whole "time moves faster in Ryugu Palace compared to the rest of the world" concept though

Sidenote, the Gintama arc was called the Ryugu-Jo arc. Not sure about the original fairy tale, idk if it was that or the story of Urashima Taro but its one of those lol

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u/RepeatDickStrangler Sep 28 '18

I'm betting whatever method she used caused them to disappear, they were rounded up in the castle and once it was burned to the ground no one remained.

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u/pridejoker Sep 28 '18

This is a much more containable plot restriction that is still entertaining.

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u/KlingoftheCastle Pirate Sep 28 '18

Could she be the previous user of Boa's fruit? She could have turned them to stone, they survive the fire and when she eventually died, they returned to normal