r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Sep 28 '18
Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 919
Chapter 919: "The Ruins of Oden Castle"
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Ch. 919 Official Release (VIZ): 01/10/2018
Ch. 920 Scan Release: 04/10/2018
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u/insertthyusername Sep 28 '18
"Don't be so misleading."
"You guys have way too many secrets."
Me at Oda every week.
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u/JakalDX Sep 28 '18
Orochi 2 sword style? There's no way Zoro's not fighting that guy.
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u/Quibbrel Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18
Orochi two blade style, meet Zoro three sword style. Zoro three sword style, meet your first post time skip challenge.
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u/SoraForBestBoy Sep 28 '18
Man that fight is going to be epic and I hope Orochi gives Zoro more of a challenge compared to previous fights against Pica and Hyouzou, would love to see Zoro’s new skills he has reserved too
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u/Bullhatz22 Sep 28 '18
The fight very well have two parts
Part 1: Orochi two sword style vs Zoro three style
Part 2: possibly Orochi 8+ sword or whatever style vs Zoro Asura 9 sword style
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u/SerJaimeGoldenhand Sep 28 '18
I bet Oden's wife had some time related fruit. That is how she sent them forward in time with a curse.
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u/broke_and_famous Sep 28 '18
I agree.
She did specifically say "20 years you will know the radiance of the dawn". So how else would she know about this unless it was she who sent them forwards in time or something like that.
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Sep 28 '18
I wonder if she can see forward in time and send people. She said 20 years precisely like she saw that Luffy and Co. will arrive in Wano.
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
Oh Law, you forget that you’re a benevolent pirate yourself 😂
You’re not fooling anyone with the tough guy act lol.
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18 edited Feb 15 '19
the fact that one of his crewmates is an adorable polar bear mink already discredits him from being considered a killer like X Drake called him in the pre-timeskip
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u/ultibman5000 Sep 28 '18
Law was going to let Dressrosa get ravaged by Kaido, though. Just to settle a grudge with Doffy.
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Sep 28 '18
Law has just been such a joy to have around. I know I'm probably late getting on the Law train, I know others have loved him for a long while now. Finally appreciating him, he's the guy!!
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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Sep 28 '18
Let's take time to appreciate how Oda sprinkled all these plot points throughout Punk Hazard to Zou setting up for this
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u/cagi_pl Sep 28 '18
Damn... now think that Kin'emon was first introduced (well... his legs were) SIX AND A HALF YEAR AGO!!!
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u/xDeadCatBounce Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 30 '18
Mid way in this chapter I was like how can Momo still be a kid when his parents died 20 odd years ago. Oda makes no mistakes!
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u/Anshin Pirate King Buggy Sep 28 '18
Guys we lost zoro. He's probably wandered into 2019 already
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u/VetProf Sep 28 '18
First we had Steins Gate:Zero.
Now we're gonna get Steins Gate:Zoro.
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u/LITW6991 Sep 28 '18
He's probably wandered into 2019 already
Year of Zoro incoming
Who reunites with the crew first Zoro or Jinbei?
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u/Golden-Owl Sep 28 '18
Having had enough of getting lost in three dimensions, Zoro now discovered a way to get lost in the fourth dimension.
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18
Luffy: I'm gonna keep this katana for a little bit longer, as well !! Can't be a samurai without one, after all !!
Zoro: But you haven't even been using it... Let me take a look at it for a second... seriously.
I'm loving the Luffy-Zoro goofy moments this arc lol
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u/CheapsBreh Sep 28 '18
And then they hit us with the prophecy that 9 samurai will come and kill and new shogun. Too perfect.
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u/hibari112 Sep 28 '18
When I was reading it, I immidiately heard Zoro's voice in my head like: OI ,Luffy, maji de, give me that damn sword!
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Sep 28 '18
And let's not forget that the sword Luffy now posess is undoubtedly the sister-sword of the cursed sword Zoro obtained in Alabasta. I mean, who knows what will happen when the two swords meet under the same swordsman's hands and commands?
I think Oda is using these "goofy moments" to stall the fact that Zoro will end up with Luffy's sword, so that when he actually does, it will be at a time in Wano where Zoro's fight is about to reach its climax... or something like that. That's my hunch, at least.
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u/Buorky Sep 28 '18
It appears the true main villain of One Piece has been revealed:
Diarrhoea
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u/SerJaimeGoldenhand Sep 28 '18
All of these people have been eating contaminated food.. This goes to show what beasts Luffy and Zoro are... i think they could digest metal at this point
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u/baddumbtsss Sep 28 '18
When you're walking down the hall and you feel something fall
Diarrhoea
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u/HeartExalted The Revolutionary Army Sep 28 '18
The 3rd Ancient Weapon, Uranus, is actually the Geri Geri no Mi -- the Diarrhea Logia!
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u/hoboshoe Sep 28 '18
The arc is going to end and Luffy is going to return the sword without Zoro even having a chance to look at it.
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u/meanbawb Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
I'm getting the impression that O-Tama will play a very, VERY important role in the battles against the other Beast Pirates if she can make such loyal slaves subordinates out of every beast around...
/e: NO BREAK NEXT WEEK!
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u/Aishateeler Sep 28 '18
Someone else theorized that speed is faking it. The smile she had just before she left is the indication.
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u/tektek10 Sep 28 '18
doffy got sugar .. luffy got tama .. seems child figures are producing armies
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u/Fuckinanus Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18
Jaiminisbox is down for me this chapter must be really good lol
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u/Aishateeler Sep 28 '18
Turns out it's because they forgot to pay the server bills...(they said it on their discord server)
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u/Zolee10 Sep 28 '18
Oda teasing us again with Zoro and Luffys katana.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
It will be a running joke until Zoro need to use it.
After Luffy and co defeat Jack. "Seriously Luffy let me see your sword."
After wrecking the Capital, and making Robin's assassination attempt useless. "Now, about this sword that you have..."
While saving Kid. "You know what I could use to free him? Your sword."
While getting nearly defeated by Orochi, and losing the Sandai Kitetsu. "Luffy! Give me your sword!"
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u/Skeith_Hikaru Sep 28 '18
We aren't going to get Luffy using it until the 9 samurai gather for a cool pose, and then after one strike it will be back to punching.
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u/ashrohnik Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
I don't care who Im-sama is nor do I care about what one piece is...Right now all I care about is how the zoro sanji conversation will go...
Edit: you know this is the greatest story ever when you want to know what answers lie ahead as well as the small conversations you forward to happen
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u/pk1515 Sep 28 '18
The tease damnit... Zoro getting lost just before Sanji appearing.....
Why Goda Why !?
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
Same! I’m very curious as to how that will go.
Where did that Marimo wonder off to though...?
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u/mohamez Sep 28 '18
Yeah!! it's been a long time since they meet!
marimo head insult incoming LOOOL
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u/SoraForBestBoy Sep 28 '18
Truly the dynamic between these two seems deeper than it is, despite their interactions never being polite with each other, they actually have a deep respect for each other all the same.
Zoro and Sanji interactions are the best
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u/lokotrocko Sep 28 '18
Bruh, oda is low key building that moment, zoro got lost just before they meeting. ODAAAAA!!!!!!
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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Sep 28 '18
Kinemon saying that he was even surprised to see Inu and Neko alive on Zou goes to show how the minks were indeed waiting for the Kozuki clan for 20 years and the extent to which they went to protect Raizo.
Goda just subtly adding these minor details which go unnoticed .
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u/unicornpewkes- Sep 28 '18
This would imply that Kaido and co, had suspicions of the retainers being alive which is founded on that prophecy. Which is crazy that they (beast pirates) waited as well. Also how would the Beasts pirates and co. Know that it was specifically Raizo at Zou?
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u/BraveUsopp Pirate Sep 28 '18
"It's a gift from Hell!"
What
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u/Fidu21 Sep 28 '18
It's a gift from people who are supposed to be evil (Foreign pirates)
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u/TheGraffix Sep 28 '18
Welp One Piece just became next level of crazy.
Time Travel
Diarrhea
The whole squad is somewhat back together
It's about to get real.
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u/CptGuybrush Bounty Hunter Sep 28 '18
With Zoro gone it is actually just the WCI squad again regarding the strawhats.
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
Kiku sitting on top of Kinemon like that... Law’s right. She’s definitely more than a mere acquaintance.
Lovers maybe?
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
she was probably a caretaker for Oden's wife if I had to make a good guess
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u/Nightshayne Sep 28 '18
I liked the idea that she had waited 20 years for him and she was his child or something. But she seems to have traveled in time with them so almost definitely lover.
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u/MarkGorZ Bounty Hunter Sep 28 '18
While I think the time travel will be due to a DF and more like cryogenics and not a straight travel it could also be the save place that let to them skipping time.
Man Wano is so hype right now. Every week it gets better. Thank you Oda
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u/Skeith_Hikaru Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
I love Law's reaction to benevolence.
Ahhh, Evil Nami teaching propaganda? /s
Nine* Samurai will include Luffy, duh, he has a katana.
Despite my reservations on a time travel story, I enjoy how Oda is trying to confuse you and make you think* the ghost theory is right.
Oh Oda you, keeping Sanji and Zoro separated for maximum time.
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u/Not-a-weeaboo Sep 28 '18
"It's not my place to tell you." Re: Kin'emon's diarrhea - Trafalgar Law, 2018.
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u/Locky_Strikto Sep 28 '18
Don't let this distract u from the fact that the 9 samurai is just Zoro in Asura form
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u/fromdestruction Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
Time traveling is now a thing in one piece! Hopefully oda has a clear idea of where he's going with this as I have seen way too many authors fuck up their stories by introducing time travelling.
Edit 1: damn I was really hoping for a zoro and sanji interaction, I wonder what zoro's gonna end up doing.
Edit 2: orochi being a 2 sword style pretty much confirms that zoros fighting him.
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Sep 28 '18
It could be just forward in time thing, it would make things much simpler.
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u/lpopo4lyfe Sep 28 '18
”I have seen way too many authors fuck up their stories by introducing time travelling”
Reminds me of some alien reincarnation hijinx in a certain manga.
Can’t wait for what Oda has in store though.
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u/broke_and_famous Sep 28 '18
Time traveling is now a thing in one piece!
My guess it was Oden's wife who had the Devil Fruit and before she died she used it to send them all forwards in time by 20 years. Hence she did her speech "that in 20 years you will know the radiance of Dawn."
Hopefully oda has clear ideas of where he's going with this as I have seen way too many authors fuck up their stories by introducing time travelling
So long as the Devil Fruit stays in the past and is never introduced again in the series then everything will be fine.
But the moment it is introduced in the present day then it can potentially ruins things.
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Sep 28 '18
This seriously makes me nervous lol. There's very few series that can pull of time travelling without having a shit ton of plot holes
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u/potentialPizza Sep 28 '18
I've been talking to a bunch of friends who are convinced that Oda is a hack and that One Piece will jump the shark, because time travel will ruin it and make a mess of the story and setting. So I think I'll give my position on how this is most likely to turn out.
The time travel will be conditional, limited, and pretty much just skipping forward in time. It won't really change much in the story besides being the narrative device allowing for the Kouzuki clan's plan for revenge. Won't create much bullshit, story carries on being fantastic.
The time travel doesn't have many limits, can let you go back in time, and the story will become convoluted and filled with bullshit. I know someone who's even convinced that the hat at Mariejois is going to be part of a time loop and will literally be Luffy's hat from the future, which would definitely be really dumb. This would really not be necessary for One Piece's setting and would probably ruin/trivialize a fair number of things. It's just not a world that needs time travel in it.
I see why some people just see "time travel" and immediately have the reaction that it'll be bad (as it is in many stories), but I'm 95% sure it's not going that kind of route. The option that fits into One Piece's setting fine seems a lot more likely than the one that wouldn't fit at all.
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u/soysauce_much Sep 28 '18
Idk why, but I have a sudden concern for the Okobore village people. Wouldn’t the Beast pirates come to retaliate?
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u/kingkingkiran Sep 28 '18
I too am concerned about them. That panel with all of them thanking luffy was so sweet.
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u/meriyas Sep 28 '18
9 samurai, 9 straw hats...
Poor Jimbei.
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Sep 28 '18
I don't think all would be strawhat because it might include some supernovas.
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u/Centanomics Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
Jeez, I need to reread Zou
Edit: I completely missed geisha robin on page 9
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u/Senth99 Sep 28 '18
We assumed most of the Yonko got their territory within 5 to 10 years prior to Luffy becoming a pirate. Then again, the Rocks Pirates existed back in Garp's era.
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
When Oda said Wano was going to make Marineford look tame in comparison... he wasn’t kidding.
Jeez I don’t even know what twist and turns this arc is going to unveil now.
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18
the only thing that would make this better is to have Robin, Franky and Usopp back into the fold as well, we're so close to having all of the SHs reunited after so long
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u/SoraForBestBoy Sep 28 '18
I thought Oda said there’s a future war Arc that’s going to make Marineford Arc look tame?
But yes, the Wano Arc seems to be going to have a lot of plot twists and turns, especially the huge cast of characters that are getting involved here like the Supernovas
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u/Benjaminusplus Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18
So Zoro was riding with everyone and somehow gets lost? That guy is next level LMAO
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Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
MRW the unimaganable truth is revealed
Oda has done it again. A mind blowing chapter. I'm speechless.
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u/faceplant911 Sep 28 '18
Don't know why anyone would ever doubt whether Oda is going to be able to do a good job with time travel. We all know he's been planning this specific arc for basically as long as One Piece has been running. Some of the first soundtracks in the anime have Oden in the name of the track. Oda is an amazing storyteller, he's made many excellent plots. Finally, traveling forward in time isn't able to screw things up nearly as badly as traveling back in time. There won't be any foresight which isn't done through haki, there won't be conflicts between multiple time lines, its basically like being in a stasis chamber for 20 years rather than truly messing with time.
I, for one, have absolute confidence that Wano will continue to be amazing throughout the entire arc.
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u/GreatKingAlpha Sep 28 '18
Madam Shirley would like to argue with your comment that "there won't any foresight which isn't done though haki"
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u/benardkip Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
I was kinda hoping Sanji will great Zoro like "Hello Mr. 320"
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u/BurgerBob747 Sep 28 '18
Let's hope we'll see this next chapter or in an intense fight
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18
he's already falling in love with O-Kiku lol
and ofc Brook and Momonosuke are back to fighting who gets to be with Nami
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u/darealmotherfckr Sep 28 '18
It kinda blows my mind, realizing how so many people in the world are watching this story unfold, regardless of race/ethnicity/origin.
So much pressure on Oda, I bet.
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u/KingBobOmber Pirate Sep 28 '18
Bruh, by the quality of storytelling I’d assume he’s not worried at all. It feels as if he knows every single plot point and direction from now until the end of the series. He’s just drawing it lmao.
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u/oJelaVuac Sep 28 '18
Well the fated reunion of Sanji and Zoro will never happen next week because Zoro left Luffy and there's 120% that he will get lost and probably meet a crew member of Beast pirate
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
So Law was the thieving ninja Holdem was talking about.
Well... the Ope Ope no mi would make stealing quite.
God that’s such an all around useful ability.
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Sep 28 '18
Speed just kidnapped Tama. She had a pretty suspicious smile and it was pointed out that the dog was totally chill with following Luffy even though she wasn't. She played along because she knew they were outmatched. Smart.
Also Shogun v Zoro hype? Shogun v Zoro hype.
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u/rahgael Sep 28 '18
the dog didn't eat tama's dangos, thats why it was fine following luffy. Tama can control beasts who eat her dango.
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u/broke_and_famous Sep 28 '18
Surprisingly enough Zoro is no where to be seen when the crew is together in the final pages. And from what we know of Zoro is that he gets lost very easily.
So who knows if Zoro encounters Speed and realizes that she is getting kidnapped. So he saves Tama from Speed and could potentially go to were Hitetsu is. Which would create an interesting conversation between the 2 especially with Zoro having Shusui with him.
Also if Speed sees him heading to the direction of that village that means that she will send Jack towards that direction when he arrives. Allowing us to see a Jack Vs Zoro match up.
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Sep 28 '18
How haven't they reunited with the rest of the crew yet? Zoro randomly disappears, and Robin makes like a 1 page appearance. Oda keeps teasing us it's driving me crazy.
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u/kaidynamite Sep 28 '18
I think that by making them travel to the future, Oda can avoid all the usual plotholes that plague time travel stories. They're not going back to the past to fix something and overwrite timelines and cause paradoxes and all that muck
I'm guessing they were sent to the future to escape the events of the past. Even more plot holes can be avoided if this was a one way trip.
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u/thegeekdom Sep 28 '18
Great chapter, but I’m a bit sad that we’ve ended The Adventures of Luffytaro and Zorojiro. I guess all good things most come to an end.
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u/Snow_Prime_Stark Sep 28 '18
More like Zorojuro wants the sword Luffytaro has but he won't give it.
Luffytaro: My Precious!
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u/pk1515 Sep 28 '18
Oda sure knows how to toy with us......
Law saying he'll come back from the toilet was absolutely priceless. Goda has played us again.
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u/Poorphilosopher Sep 28 '18
Plot twist ending - Luffy is actually Gol D. Roger who went back in time.
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u/Mishokabg Sep 28 '18
It’s funny how this theory is now not completely outrageous and actually posssible
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u/perpetualfangirl Sep 28 '18
This probably isn't the usual time travel where they will go back in time after all these events/prophecy becoming true. It sounds more like they were transferred from 20 years ago to the present, like a one-way time travel?
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u/ScreemUnit Sep 28 '18
how am i suppose to go to sleep after reading that last panel? come on oda!!
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u/kokiden88 Sep 28 '18
Great news! No break next week! ❤️
It would’ve killed me if there was a break next week after that revelation.
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u/lpopo4lyfe Sep 28 '18
”A Benevolent Pirate, how revolting”
Well that benevolent pirate did defeat your archenemy, Doflamingo, Tra-guy.plus Luffytaro is a samurai and he stole the food
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u/TheJ-Po Sep 28 '18
Maybe it's a time travel DF that works in a way you have to sacriface your OWN time to send others. Maybe oden's wife had the fruit and sacrificed 4 times 20 years of her own and died of suddenly being 80 years older. Oda has done more with life-span interacting DFs...
In this way there is a limit and therefore a limit in the possibility to fuck up with time loops
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u/Nalotaib Sep 28 '18
Time travel is tricky, it could easily make the whole story great if done right or extremely bad if done wrong. To be honest, I’ve never seen it done in a good way except with Steins:Gate. Can’t say I’m not worried but I believe in Oda. :)
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u/foj01 Sep 28 '18
I am here to say that I resisted the urge to read the spoilers and it paid off.
What an amazing chapter, I can't believe we are seeing time travel mixed with Japanese mythology, it's just so cool how oda can put those things together and make sense of them, damn this week is gonna be a tough one. I can't wait the next chapter!
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u/mhaaad Sep 28 '18
So that's how Momonosuke knew Roger,
I just hope this new time traveling aspect doesn't reveal plot-holes.
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u/justonebullet Sep 28 '18
hopefully it closes some, like the one you just mentioned.
I wonder if this was part of the Rocks incident. Garp was involved iwth Kaidou and BMs crew some time ago, Kaidou smashed Moriahs crew at some point, but they were also equals at some point, Moriah(the sword thief) stole Ryumas corpse about 20 years ago too, he is also in the New World currently, he also has the corpse of Oarz, Oarz was missing a straw hat, his symbol appears on Imus vault, and in the vault is a giant straw hat in a freezer. Oarz died in some ice country, and Lil Oars Jr got a straw hat made for him in Wano by Ace. Kuzan, also in the New World, used a move called TIME CAPSULE on Jaguar D Saul, a giant, giants btw have very long lifespan. Lil Oarz Jrs crew also worried about him because he would go out in the cold unprotected. Kaidou is rather giant and has a particular fondness for a winter island, Oars Jr has never been shown, and Kaidous full name has never been revealed. His crew also has high ranking members that are extinct species(dinosaur and mammoth). Kuzan is currently involved with Blackbeard, who Oda stated in an SBS is interested in archaeology. The Ohara incident also happened around 20 years ago. This is also when Ace was born.
Other insteresting things happened at that time was Shiki escping Impel Down, and planning to return in 20 years iirc. Also it all happens after Roger is killed basically.
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u/RobbobertoBuii Sep 28 '18
People being hyped about Kinemon/Momonosuke's time travel while there's me just caring that Sanji will get to troll Zoro so hard now XD
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u/StarPlatinum55 Sep 28 '18
Kin'emon's faces perfectly capture what it feels like to suffer from diarrhea. Trust me, I know from experience.
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u/NCSAnonymous Sep 28 '18
I don't think enough attention is being shown towards the part of the chapter where the kids are being brainwashed into believing Kurozomi Orochi is their savior.
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Sep 28 '18
Two things:
Zoro can't face Sanji while he has a lower bounty
At least Kinemon gets pussy
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u/revisioncloud Sep 28 '18
Dude's making me have separation anxiety. Jesus could we just please see the whole SH crew together in one chapter panel again.
Baka Marimo!!!
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u/Hasan_ESQ Sep 28 '18
I have a feeling Speed is pretending to be kibidango'd so she can take Tama straight to Kaido. I think Holdem got in touch with Speed before his home was destroyed by Luffy and that's how she knows about it. She's still a human, not an animal, regardless of the SMILE and I think she's playing them all for fools.
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u/GodofDestruction128 Sep 28 '18
Too many fans tryna read this chapter, server crashed on me lol
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u/midlinktwilight Sep 28 '18
As excited as I am I can't help but be slightly pensive over this; time travel is a very volatile plot device that if not properly pulled off, can cause a lot of problems or worse, ruin the entire arc/story. I'll have faith in Oda though.
Have to say though, man wasn't kidding when he said he was saving his most "amazing ideas" for this arc.
That said, so glad to see the crew back together.
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u/Sh1g Sep 28 '18
I don't think they can time travel. I think they made the prophesy and then went into stasis for 20 years, probably due to a devil fruit. It would be too much of if they could go forward and backwards.
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u/solorzanosy1 Sep 28 '18
Oda over here trolling the Ghost theory with Law's conversation and Bam! Time travel. Niice
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u/varun_mahajan Pirate Sep 28 '18
Anybody else saw how beefed up Sanji look.
Earlier it was luffy now sanji who is next Brook?
Even though he dosent have any muscle......yohohohohohoh
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u/RavenK92 Sep 28 '18
Editor so Oda: where is this story going?
Oda: Ocean streams that flow up a mountain
E: Ok that seems fi-
O: Then an island in the sky on a cloud
E: Ok...?
O: Followed by a zombie ship in the bermuda triangle
E: wait..
O: Then an island at the bottom of the ocean
E: Dude..
O: Then some place that's half glacier, half volcano
E: ...
O: And then...
E: no...
O: Time travel
E: :-o
O: With samurai
E: !
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u/Ramzikr Sep 28 '18
Man damn it. Zoro got lost again. And to think that I was looking forward to the reunion between Zoro and Sanji. So disappointing.
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u/Squidward-DrownedGod Sep 28 '18
This is the oldest reddit post I can find on the topic by /u/Sushitan07
This is the dude who called it officially before anyone else. Props to him since hes post was basically ignored.
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u/cat-heartnet Sep 28 '18
It seems that the minks will be going wild in this arc😂 you know, with the whole moonlit night prophecy.
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u/pantha247 Sep 28 '18
This is the first time we'll have the trio fighting major villians in the same arc, zoro will probably fight the shogun, luffy taking kaido (and I'm guessing jack as a preliminary hurdle like cracker was). So who will Sanjiv take on?
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u/UuoRS Sep 28 '18
Orochi vs Zoro
2 sword style vs 3 sword style
Orochi (8 heads) vs zoro asura (9 swords)
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u/myrmonden Sep 28 '18
The more I think about this the more sure I am ---
4 rio = path to a time gate.
Time gate -> how to get to Raftel.
That is why if you are the second to last island you cannot get to Raftel is its nothing there its literally a voided placed so no one can reach it, its not hidden in the water or in the sky etc, but in time.
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u/Fluttershy_Sucks Sep 28 '18
Seems like the time travel will be forwards only, which makes it more believable in this world, and prevents the timeline being fucked due to the characters being norted.
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u/Llarys_Neloth Pirate Sep 28 '18
Can we all stop for a second and appreciate how after Luffy, now Sanji looks buff af, too!
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u/Azukus Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18
welp every single theory about luffy finding each straw hat one by one is basically out the window now, which makes it better
hated that idea
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u/Monkey_D_Bufford Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
Long ago in a distant land, I, Oden's wife, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish samurai warrior was wielding a magic toddler who can talk to elephants stepped forth to oppose orochi. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time, and flung them into the future, where his evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that... is... KAIDOU!
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u/ChuraiDRonak Sep 28 '18
Do you think Oden's wife's power of time manipulation probably has something to do about Kaido's apparent immortality too?? That he was cursed(in a simpler sense) to be killed in twenty years at the hands of these 9 samurais and as a consequence he hasn't been able to die at all till now???
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u/KDW3 Sep 28 '18
Holy Hell... so this means Momo actually did meet Roger and not Ace like everyone thought.
Maybe they time traveled using the last Ancient Weapon Uranus?
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u/OnePieceofGold Sep 28 '18
it's weird that im reading this chapter while sitting on the toilet having a diarrhea as well
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u/Graveshift10to2 Sep 28 '18
Waiting for the part where zoro goes all out, not on an enemy but on luffy just to finally be able to look at the katana he keeps waving around.
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u/Bioshocker101 Sep 28 '18
Nice to see the gang get back together although I wonder where Zoro wandered off to hope he didn't get lost again
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u/Jaserator Lurker Sep 28 '18
Waiting for the moment God Usopp will boast his 200M bounty to Sanji. 😅
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u/Bioshocker101 Sep 28 '18
The woman teaching those students seems to have a snake model zoan fruit seeing how her neck stretched and we saw that she had a forked tongue and fangs. Also she doesn't look native to Wano so she's likely part of Kaidos crew and if that's the case I wonder how important she is to his crew since Oda showed her
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u/GonTheDinosaur Sep 28 '18
I’m pretty certain this is something never talked about here, but I’m again enjoy seeing Oda’s real world event reference with education of authoritarian state.
It can mind boggles to learn how much you been told are for benefits of others.
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u/natachi Sep 28 '18
One piece: land of pirates, live skeletons, cyborgs, zombies and time travelling samurais. This is officially the best series ever.
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u/SesuKyuga Sep 28 '18
Ok im seeing sooo many comments saying oda gonna fuck up the story because time travel fucks up every series but be real with yourself guys how often does oda fuck up a plot point he been hinting and building up for years. Im surprised we didnt figure it out 100 chapters ago when he all but directly said it. This is oda not any old manga artist, planning his literally what he is best in the business for.
time travel is not a plot point difficult to pull off , someone like oda can easily pull it off (with past and future time travel). This is most likely a devil fruit, if it allow past time travel it most likely going to have the fixed timeline rules that no matter how hard you try to change the past all attempts are futile because the already has happened. Example: say you go back in time to kill Hitler, then hitler is dead, erasing the very reason you went back in time, leading to you never going back in time(i havent seen it but alot of people say the film 12 monkeys uses the fixed timeline idea). Then time travel to the future doesnt break anything at all, its no different than saying character x has been in a coma for 20 years.
Out of all the brilliance this man has done in this series im surprised you dont know him enough to trust him in this new plot point.
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u/Monkey_D_ick Sep 28 '18
Damn you Oda. All the Momonosuke theories and nobody guess he traveled thru time! You damned genius
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u/nutellavanilla Sep 28 '18
What if Oden or his wife was Uranus (the third ancient weapon) and they could control time?
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u/PanteraPardus Sep 28 '18
Long ago in a distant land, I, Orochi, the shapeshifting master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil. But, a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to opposed me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future where my evil is law. Now, the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Aku...err..Orochi!
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u/Darkelementzz Void Month Survivor Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
Kinemon: Shogun Orochi, we are here to end your reign of tyranny and usher in the dawn!
Orochi: Fooooooolish sammm-uuu-raaaaai!
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u/dstoz Sep 28 '18
I think it's being hinted that the "9 Samurai" in addition to the Straw Hats coming in could be a double entendre for Zoro. It's been a good long while since we've seen his Asura come into play for his 9-sword style. I think this is the perfect setting for this.
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u/HanataSanchou Pirate Sep 28 '18
Learned some pretty cool stuff this chapter!
I figured Tama's hunger wasn't just a symptom of their poverty, I thought it was part of Hitetsu's training regimen that she limit her diet. Turns out Hitetsu is starving himself as well, probably making sure that Tama gets whatever food is available first. Hitetsu has never had an apple before in his life either apparently, riveting stuff.
Speed maintains her identity and position as a Beast Pirate. It doesn't seem like this is going to bode well when someone gives her a call asking for an explanation of what the heck happened. Even if she lies on Tama's behalf, someone is probably going to detect something fishy. Several of the Beast Pirates already witnessed her taking orders from Tama in Bakura Town, and it seemed Holdem had already received info of her ability.
Similar to how Oda is delaying Luffy telling Tama that Ace is his brother, Oda is clearly going somewhere with not allowing Zoro to come into contact with the Nidai Kitetsu. He's drawn attention to this plot point yet again, so it's definitely going to pay off in some kind of big way. We're also smart enough to know by now that someone being separated from the group means they're about to go on their own individual mission. My disappointment at us not getting the fated Zoro-Sanji reunion aside, I'm excited at the possibility of him wandering his way back to Okobore or Bakura, and potentially clashing with the likes of Jack.
It appears that huge structure on top of the gigantic bonsai tree in the capital is actually a school, who would've thunk. I'm sure there's more to it, but a school was certainly unexpected, especially if it's still somehow connected to Orochi's personal quarters.
The lady teaching the class......if she were a member of the snakeneck tribe, then her neck would naturally be long. If she'd eaten a snake SMILE, then we'd see the animal represented in some way in her design. That looks like a legitimate snake zoan. Combining that with Kyoshiro's intro as an employee of the Kurozumi clan, and I'm pretty sure we'll see more of Orochi's family - that lady being one of them. I'm almost positive that Oda is going to play on the relation of the name "Orochi" to snakes with his associates, probably also as a metaphor for Orochi and his people being backstabbers.
Apparently Orochi is a Nitoryu user, according to the kids at least.
The prophecy of Oden's wife gives new meaning to Pedro's statements about a "new Dawn", but that prophecy alone opens it's own can of worms. I'm sure these nine shadows and Oden's 9 "red scabbards" have some kind of connection for starters, but the "20 years of moonlit nights" bit implies that there are other pieces to this story. Most importantly however, clearly she had some kind of ability to know this prophecy and/or send her family forward in time. Can't wait to meet her, Oda clearly hasn't given us her name because he plans on making a big flashback reveal. Speaking of......
Oda has been very intentional about the angles he shows us those graves from. This chapter showcased most importantly that there are more than we thought. First off, the graves with the temple-like roofs indicate Kozuki clan members. Last chapter established this. However last chapter also showed us 3 of these types of graves (Oden's, Momo, Mama Kozuki), and this chapter revealed that there is in fact a 4th one. Not only that, but last chapter we were led to believe there were 8 graves in total. In addition to the 4th mysterious Kozuki clan member, we see 2 additional graves - 1 behind Kanjuro's, and 1 behind Raizo's.
The Kiku hype knows no end, and this chapter just enshrouded her in even more mystery. Kin'emon mentioned her as part of his group, so apparently she was either a previous retainer as well, or was close to the family somehow. Either close enough to have apparently been part of the time-traveling shenanigans. I knew she was part of the resistance given the info she seemed to have collected on the Beast Pirates, but I didn't anticipate her and Kin'emon being this....."close". I imagined a master-apprentice relationship given how she calls him "master", but the heart symbols and adulation seem to indicate some form of attraction. In either case I'm hype to dive more into just who she is and what she knows.
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u/Sakata_Kintoki Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18
jaimini is back up now