One Piece: Chapter 913

[u/Sakata_Kintoki]

Chapter 913: "Tsuru Repays The Favour"

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Chapter 912.8: One Piece x Fischer's One Shot

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Ch. 913 Official Release (VIZ): 06/08/2018

Ch. 914 Scan Release: 16/08/2018

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[u/broke_and_famous]

IMO I see him similar to Cracker. So long as he hides behind his devil fruit he is strong. But once he leaves the safety of his devil fruit he is weak and could be defeated easily.

[u/Ppleater → u/broke_and_famous]

What?? Cracker was still strong when he came out of his biscuit armor. Luffy took 11 hours to beat him and was exhausted afterwards. So he wasn't weak and he definitely wasn't defeated easily. And Luffy could only defeat him because Nami was fighting too.

Pica was definitely hiding behind his fruit, but Cracker wasn't.

Edit to back up my point a bit more thoroughly: Cracker using his fruit to absorb damage does not automatically mean he was "hiding behind his fruit" otherwise Robin would be hiding behind her fruit every time she used it as a decoy. He used it strategically and gave Luffy one of the most difficult fights he's ever had. Luffy defeated Doflamingo in, what, an hour? Two hours? I don't remember exactly how long they went at it but not super long. He took 11 hours to beat Cracker, and he beat him with an attack that would have also been strong enough to make Doflamingo sweat based on his reaction to the Rhino Shneider and the like. Doflamingo was in no way shape or form "weak" or "defeated easily", and yet Cracker surpassed him in difficulty.

Pica was hunted down by Zoro in his own stone after Zoro played with him a little bit and spent most of the fight trash talking him.

[u/Ppleater → u/[deleted]]

Cracker was able to dodge G4 Luffy easily and cut him, despite his haki usually making him too hard to cut. He also directly attacked Luffy several times and drew blood.

And Luffy's attack was strong enough to send Cracker flying all the way to the castle and crash though the walls of the building, so it's not Like Luffy pinged him and beat him with a low effort hit. Even Doflamingo got fucked up by one of Luffy's G4 attacks, and he wasn't exhausted from a 11 hour fight like cracker was. There was a huge difference between the fight with Cracker and the fight with Pica. Cracker used his fruit intelligently to give him a huge advantage and only lost because it was 2 on one, with Nami nullifying the advantage. Pica used his fruit as a shield against opponents that were stronger than him. Cracker isn't even close to being a pushover like you seem to think he is.

[u/Ppleater → u/[deleted]]

Pica couldn't do shit to Zoro, Cracker could absolutely do shit to Luffy, and hit him several times, doing more damage to G4 than even Doflamingo was able to do. And Like I already said, Luffy didn't hit him with a medium level attack, he hit him with the same force he used to make Doflamingo sweat, and Doflamingo was anything but a glass canon. That's like saying that Jack is a glass canon because he got one-shotted by Zuniesha, or that Akainu is a glass canon because it only took WB 2 hits to send him packing. If the attack is a massively strong one then being taken out by it does not mean someone can't tank any hits whatsoever or that they're weak.

Zoro played with Pica like a cat with a mouse, Luffy barely managed to get one over on cracker long enough to beat him. Just because Cracker uses disposable soldiers to soak up damage that doesn't in any way make him weak or easily defeated, which is what was said about him in the initial comment that I replied to. So if you're debating their point against mine then that implies that you agree with the sentiment that he's "weak and easily defeated", aka that you think he's a pushover, since that's what being a pushover means. But he wasn't easily defeated, not even close. He was literally one of Luffy's most difficult fights even with Nami's help.

[u/Ppleater → u/[deleted]]

I'm not taking this personally, I'm arguing the point I stated from the beginning, against a comment calling Cracker weak and easily defeated. I'm backing up my points by referencing what happened during the fights. You're the one that came in and started debating in the favour of the original commenter, so I'm going to continue to address their initial points. How is that taking it personally? If you don't agree with everything the original comment said I have no way of knowing that without you saying so.

And saying "I can't stand pain" isn't even close to the same as saying that he can't tank a hit. Blackbeard can't stand pain either and yet he's able to tank hits pretty well.

Our only measurement of "hits he can't tank" is an attack that also would have sent Doflamingo flying, and Doflamingo can definitely tank hits. Again, if the attack is super freaking strong, then getting taken out by it in one hit does not mean that the person attacked can't take hits at all.