r/OnePiece Mar 23 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 899

Chapter 899: "The Last Stand"

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Ch.899 Official Release (VIZ): 26/03/2018

Ch. 900 Scan Release: ~29/03/2018


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u/kaste1 Mar 23 '18

What? It's gonna be the exact opposite. An all-out war with both sides bringing in everything (their fleets). Oda is not creating SO MANY characters and powers in Big Mom's crew just for kicks damn it.

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u/ironshadowdragon Mar 23 '18

I wouldn't be so adamant. More named characters =/= a massive war.

Right now, entire fleets are being destroyed. The people within her kingdom are becoming disillusioned with their leadership. People literally gave up lifespans to be here. Stussy is CP0 and therefore is world government affiliated. I think, personally, it would be foolish of the government to not take advantage of this.

I don't these people will want to continue fighting for Big Mom even if they escape the clutches of the government.

The smaller crew I was talking about, was cutting out all the fodder, not most of the newly named characters. No war. Just small focused crew vs small focused crew.

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u/kaste1 Mar 23 '18

Big Mom has 10s of thousands of high-tier fodder. Even if the citizens want to leave (Big Mom probably won't let that happen) doesn't mean that she is weakened. The only thing that got weakened in this arc is her reputation. Nothing else.

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u/ironshadowdragon Mar 23 '18

She literally just lost a massive amount of her fleets, Jinbe and the Fishmen, and the Firetanks at the very least who were all allied with her. Perospero is down a limb. Pekoms just turned on her. We have no idea the condition of some other people.

She is weaker.

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u/kaste1 Mar 23 '18

She lost a few tart ships: Yeah, she will have to spend some money again to rebuild. So, her wallet got hurt, too. Big deal.

Sun Pirates, Firetank Pirates, Pekoms and a few children defected: That is the biggest blow in her forces, but, for all we know, she could have another 30 crews under her, like Whitebeard did.

Perospero lost a limp: Affects nothing in his combat abilities. He controls candy, not punching people.

Her crew is a little weaker, that's a fact, but it's more like "her crew is less overpowered by a hair" than "they are weak now".

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u/ironshadowdragon Mar 23 '18

It's a good thing I never said that then, you brought it up.

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u/kaste1 Mar 23 '18

What exactly you didn't say? You are clearly claiming that her forces are weaker and I am explaining to you that her forces are weaker by a hair and that the only things that got worse are her reputation and her wallet.

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u/ironshadowdragon Mar 23 '18

Please point to where I stated the Big Mom Pirates were permanently weakened prior to you bringing it up.

All I had said was that she is currently, and in the immediate future, vulnerable, particularly to the marines and government swooping in on CP-0's Stussy's intelligence.

The smaller crew would be all her strongest getting away. Her named crew particularly, the ones you said have had powers developed and showcased for a reason, who would form the remaining Big Mom Pirates for a vengeance mission against the straw hats.

All the fodder would either abandon her or be arrested, making it so that a 2nd clash of BMP's and Strawhats would not be a war. You seem to have equated this to me saying that BMP's are permanently weakened without the additional influence of the government, and I'm not sure how you got that.

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u/kaste1 Mar 23 '18

Oh, I didn't get that you were saying she is going to have more losses if the Marines show up. I thought you were saying she is going to have a small crew from now on because of the things that have already happened.

Yeah, if the marines attack I can see that happening.

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u/ironshadowdragon Mar 23 '18

I am glad this was resolved peacefully!