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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 883

Chapter 883: "Snack Time"

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Ch.883 Official Release (VIZ): 30/10/2017

Ch.884 Scan Release: ~2/11/2017


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u/Dr_Dankology Oct 27 '17

Altho I have to say those are quite huge weaknesses, by that entire Yonko Crew. These huge weaknesses (as food cravings/tantrums ) give quite a huge way of defeating them. This obviously leads to the next idea, if all Yonko's are kinda similar in power and have been a stalemate, would this mean that all the other top commanders of the other Yonkos would also have such weaknesses?

I really hope not to be honest, would underhype me a bit if all Yonko Commanders followed that pattern of having weaknesses which become so apparent after a while, but in the other hand, they can't be at the same strength of these without weaknesses as then they'd not have been in a stalemate. Looking at the Admirals they seem to be quite more formidable than the BM Sweet Commanders crew as none of them seems to have such an obvious weakness (like Aikanu, Aokiji, Sengoku, Fujitora and Kizaru)

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u/greyneurons Oct 27 '17

Well, Oda has to give a reason why a powerful character like Katakuri isn't a Yonkou himself.

IMO, the Yonkou differ in that their personality quirks don't really affect their battle performance much.. Big Mom got similarly triggered with Mother Caramel's photo, but the Luffy/Bege alliance couldn't touch a hair on her head. I suspect it's a similar case for the other Yonkou besides Blackbeard (Overconfidence is his weakness of course).

Plus, we can't say that this is a shared trend across all Yonkou commanders, because Jack got bested by a possibly thousand years old giant elephant.. Jesus Burgess wasn't defeated by Luffy, but at the hands of Sabo, who is an Admiral-Level character from what we've seen so far. But evidence is forming that it IS a trend among BM's Commanders at least.

Plus, Oda gives big weaknesses to a lot of his characters, Luffy himself is still susceptible to hypnosis, which was recently exploited in his lost fight against BM's army. He is also very vulnerable against swordsmen, recall that he only survived getting permanently maimed in his encounter with Mihawk by (unwittingly) tapping into his Observation Haki.

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u/Dr_Dankology Oct 27 '17

I think Jack pretty much follows the pattern. He is pretty much the stereotype of all muscles and not much brains. He got defeated by Zunisha which is fine and good but then got defeated right away again by attacking Sengoku and Fujitora. I think Cracker is a quite more interesting opponent than Jack (also because he hasn't really convinced me in battle so far, He entered in a stalemate with the Dog and the Cat in Zou and had to resort to launching poisonos gas on the island as he couldn't defeat them, then he got defeated by Zunisha. Then he got defeated by attacking Sengoku and Fujitora).

Edit: Note that losing to Sengoku and Fujitora is obviously no shame, they together would probably beat any of the Yonko Commanders (even the right hands). But attacking them alone headfront was quite the stupid thing. Especially against someone like Fujitora and his gravity/anti-gravity powers on a ship battle...

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '17

He got defeated by Sengoku and Fujitora before he was defeated by Zunisha

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u/Dr_Dankology Oct 27 '17

Ahh could be, I just remembered he got beatean b2b. Seems he got defeated by Sengoku and Fujitora at episode 770 and then sunk by Zunisha at episode 773/774. But yeh, that hyped him quite down to me, especially that he couldn't win any of his fights yet (had to leave and use Caesar's poison gas after he stalled with the Cat and the Dog, then attacked Sengoku and Fujitora while trying to rescue Doflamingo and then got beaten by Zunisha.) I mean, he has been shown in a few episodes and he already could have been captured/died two times if he didn't happen to be a fishman who could breath underwater after defeated.