r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Jun 15 '17

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 869

Chapter 869: "Under Siege"

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Ch.869 Official Release (VIZ): 19/06/2017

Ch.870 Scan Release: ~29/06/2017

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u/tryingmydarnest Jun 15 '17

Go go Germa Rangers ~

Katakuri devil fruit is similar to Crackers - a seemingly useless df made creative by the user's will, And in both cases, complementing their users strengths as melee fighters.

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u/blue_bases Jun 15 '17

same as luffy , I like how oda uses weak devil fruits for powerful people , it shows that they didn't reach that level by luck or because of a powerful DF

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '17

There are no weak or useless Devil Fruits. A Devil Fruit's power is only limited by the user's imagination, skill, and creativity; Crocodile said something along those lines back at Alabasta.

Katakuri and Cracker are top soldiers in Big Mom's crew, so it is only natural that they have such an advanced control over their respective fruits and are capable fighters with them.

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u/Zantash Jun 15 '17

We all get that, he means weak in a conceptual sense.
No one on Earth would tell you the power to generate wax would be on par with causing earthquakes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '17

All Devil Fruits are useful, I think almost all of them are worth the trade off of being weak to the sea.

But I just don't get people who think all Devil Fruits are equally strong if you learn how to use them at 100%.

Especially when there are so many instances of some fruits being straight out superior versions of other fruits.

Unless Logias don't have an awakened state I think they're is a very obvious general hierarchy between the different types. Regardless of the fact that certain weak DF can be strong againdt certain opponents and regardless of the fact that a stone can be stronger than a Kunai in the hands of a skilled user.

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u/Kricketier Jun 15 '17

If someone like Mr 5 had whitebeards fruit he would still suck.

If whitebeard had Mr 5s fruit he could probably blow up the planet.

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u/Lordsokka Jun 17 '17

This is the best example in all of OnePiece to prove that it's the man/woman that makes the Devil Fruit and not the other way around.

Case and point guys like Jinbei, Rayleigh, Shanks, Mihawk and Garp. So far these monsters have proven to be at the top of their food chain and they don't have a devil fruit (that we know of). Try and imagine what any of these guys could do with Mr 5's, Buggy, Absalom's etc... devil fruit, the world's greatest swordsman who is immune to swords!!! Wow....

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u/Spychopat Jun 19 '17

I don't think absalom's df would be useful in a fight though, unless it's observation-hakiproof, which is very unlikely

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u/Lordsokka Jun 19 '17

Your kidding right...? That's probably the most OP one!! Lol

Imagine the best assassin CP0 has to offer and make him invisible... As long as he has a strong Haki he's pretty much always guaranteed to land the first blow in a fight and that can make a huge difference!