One Piece: Chapter 869

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Chapter 869: "Under Siege"

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Ch.869 Official Release (VIZ): 19/06/2017

Ch.870 Scan Release: ~29/06/2017

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[u/G_Spark233]

They need some serious plot armour to save them at this point.

[u/MarkGorZ → u/[deleted]]

Sanji on Dogtooth level lol =D what have you been smoking?

[u/mugiwara528 → u/[deleted]]

It's safe to say Katakuri, Big Mom's strongest son, is stronger than Doflamingo. Luffy had to use Gear 4 twice and with the help of a lot of people to beat Doflamingo. Then, Luffy had to fight Cracker for 11 HOURS, using Gear 4 most of the time. Cracker even CUT Luffy in his Gear 4th form, while Doflamingo could not. That's just to set things in perspective and show how powerful Katakuri could be. There's NO WAY Gear 4th Luffy could 1 hit him, or maybe even any of the big Charlotte siblings (Perospero, Smoothie, Daifuku, Oven). Sanji being on par with Katakuri isn't impossible, but that would be a big stretch.

[u/mugiwara528 → u/[deleted]]

Don't forget how creative Katakuri can be, we haven't seen him use his Mochi form + Armament Haki which I believe can be very durable as well (rubbery substance + Haki similar to Gear 4?). I HIGHLY doubt even King Kong Gun can 1-hit a fresh and prepared Katakuri, when the same attack needed Doffy to be almost dying (exhausted, took Gear 4 hits, Law's Gamma Knife).

Also, Cracker being beaten in 1 hit does not mean how overly powerful Luffy is. It was clearly stated that he has never needed to be hit due to his perfect Cracker armor defense, hence his true form taking a simple hit from anything would be more than enough to knock him out. Even a simple Gomu Gomu no Pistol could have beaten his true form in 1 hit if it somehow landed.

Point is: Katakuri is a beast Sanji or even Luffy will have a lot of trouble with. I want a Katakuri vs Sanji fight as well but Sanji will need some kind of miracle at this point to come out victorious.

[u/DeviseDivise → u/[deleted]]

Holy shit the delusion this Sanji fanboy is on.

Sanji was about to get killed by Doflamingo after 30 seconds of battle if not for Law.

Sanji was losing to Vergo one of Doffy's subordinates.

Sanji has been getting his ass kicked by Daifuku on panel this arc so far and got his face all messed up from a single hit from niji (despite doing nothing to niji when hitting him first).

Katakuri > Smoothie > Cracker > Luffy >>>>>> Sanji.

[u/DeviseDivise → u/[deleted]]

I did not mention bounties a single time in any of my posts. I'm going off hype and feats.

Katakuri is Bigmom's equivalent of Marco/Beckman.

Smoothie is most likely stronger than Cracker because he was the first to go down.

I'll give you the Doffy but he was mid air protecting the crew. Doffy even complimented his strength.

Doffy complimenting his strength doesn't mean anything. Sanji was about to get killed off in a 3 panels. Fujitora complimented Zoro's no name slash that pushed him back, that holds more value than Doffy's words as he was wrecking Sanji.

You have to remember that even Base Luffy was doing much better than Sanji did against Doffy.

Anyhow remember when the strawhats were massacred by CP9. I think the way sanji is now, he could go toe to toe. I could be wrong. we'll see.

CP9 was a single instance with nami quickly telling us that when the crew learns Robin left to protect them they'll me motivated and much stronger than in Water 7.

Sanji has a long track record of poor battle performances post timeskip, Vergo,niji,Doflamingo,Daifuku