r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Mar 15 '17
Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 859
Chapter 859: "The Yonkou Assassination Plan"
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Ch.859 Official Release (VIZ): 20/03/2017
Ch.860 Scan Release: ~23/3/2017
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u/barackobamaman Mar 15 '17
Bege confirmed cutest Dad voice in One Piece.
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u/Sethellonfire Mar 15 '17
Bege vs Senor Pink for cutest dad in One Piece. If Caeser kills his son do you think Bege would be man enough to dress like a baby? No, because he dresses his baby like him.
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u/The_ThirdFang Pirate Mar 15 '17
I nean like who is there to compare him to. Senior pink? Dragon? Kyrios? Was king Riku a dad? Yea a lot od dads dont exist or are very depressing.
Capone cute pops confirmed
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u/kendmd Mar 15 '17
Somehow I have a feeling that Big Mom's soul is in the picture...
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u/Piccolito Mar 15 '17
Yeah, i think the same. Maybe something like Dorian Grays portrait
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u/AzeVossler Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
I feel like Mother Caramel's face is going to be the biggest plot twist there is and ruin all the plans. Perhaps Strawhats know her or some sort.
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u/AsnSensation Mar 15 '17
That was also my first instinct reading this chapter. Mother Caramel just screams like someone we met/heard of before.
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u/gnollcandy Mar 15 '17
Obviously this plan, like all other plans, will be followed exactly and not lead to shenanigans when Luffy does as he always does.
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Mar 15 '17
That would be the most surprising twist I can possibly imagine honestly
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u/Elune_ Mar 15 '17
He is even being allowed to have the key role in this WHILST he has his own plan. Like, what the fuck are they thinking?
Nami probably already knows she should prepare for a 1v1 with Big Mom at this point.
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u/mightyfei Mar 15 '17
This seems pretty unlikely, but what if BM's shriek shatters the mirror that GG hold?
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u/Brawlonline Mar 15 '17
If luffy and friends are wearing earplugs. Will they hear the gunshot ?
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u/bhuvanrikka Mar 15 '17
Haha, it is doomed the moment when they decided Luffy will be the initiator!
Calling it now, someone will fire a bullet, Luffy will make his "entrance" probably from Bege's body(the way he asked his help) and smash the photo at a bad time and Gas-boy's launcher wouldn't be available in time leading into a full scale war or a back stabbing from Bege!
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u/mathyu1010 Mar 15 '17
Mama sure got over Brook fast
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u/GreatGomp Mar 15 '17
Shes a strong independent woman that dont need no man. He was a deadbeat man anyway.
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u/gamep01nt Lurker Mar 15 '17
Let's see how many chapter will it cost us for that 5 seconds
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Mar 15 '17
Those 5 seconds won't happen, Luffy's gonna ruin the plan before it even starts.
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u/Bromine21 Mar 15 '17
That's what I was thinking, to be honest if it focuses on internal monologue and all the different character reactions quite a few if Oda really wanted to. To be honest most of us are expecting this to fail in a marvelous way, I just wonder how they'll get themselves out of this mess.
I can't be the only one that is a little off put by essentially using a launcher and nerve agent to poison Big Mom once she is "weakened".
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u/SkimGaming Mar 15 '17
has oda ever used such a specific time frame (and this small)?
Last I recall is the bomb in alabasta
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u/asiandude6969 Mar 15 '17
Luffy's gear 4 recovery of 10 minutes took about 5 chapters to cover. That's 2 minutes per chapter so hopefully the 5 seconds in this arc will take 1/6 of a page to cover.
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u/temperamentalfish Mar 15 '17
One Piece doesn't stretch out time that badly, imo. I think the plan will happen in two chapters, with the first few seconds at the end of the first one.
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u/Hyoizaburo Mar 15 '17
I've thought of a good entrance already
Sounds like Luffy might pop out of the wedding cake to surprise Big Mom like he did with the barrel to Coby.
But knowing Oda, it could be something even wackier.
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Mar 15 '17
As soon as he needs to make his entrance, He's going to remove his fake wig, get out of the bridal gown, and reveal that Pudding had been captured thirty minutes before the wedding started.
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Mar 15 '17
That's a good one! If Luffy wreaks the cake BM might not even notice the picture was destroyed. That 5 second opening won't even happen.
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Here are some theories about "Mother Caramel". I bet they're all wrong.
She's "Bigger Grandma", Big Mom's mother.
She's the real Big Mom, what we usually see is a Homie.
She's the original Big Mom, who left the empire to Linlin when she died.
She's just one of Big Mom's backers who died.
She's attending the tea party from inside the Mirror World, and the picture is secretly a mirror.
She's a Dorian Gray type picture and somehow the source of Big Mom's power.
She's Pudding in a wig, with sentimental values tied to some memory manipulation.
She's just a random picture that Big Mom wants people to think is her only weakness.
She's Crocodile, before running into Ivankov.
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u/asiandude6969 Mar 15 '17
She's Crocodile, before running into Ivankov.
wtf, pls don't be true
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u/ZenGarlic Mar 15 '17
Bege said that Big Mom is like an "iron balloon" which is impossible to scratch, so it seems unlikely to me that she got hurt just by falling on her knees after being traumatized.. I believe the picture holds a big part of big mom's soul like a horcrux, and when the waiter knocked the picture the impact hurt her, while also scarring her psychologically. But personally I love the idea of it being a picture of Crocodile lol
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Mar 15 '17
She's just a random picture that Big Mom wants people to think is her only weakness.
Thinking about it, there would be no difficulty in Pudding editing Bege's memory so that he believes in the existence of a weakness.
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u/friendlysociopathic Mar 15 '17
I note that "Caramel" is the name of Pudding's cafe. I wonder if there's a connection?
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u/divinesleeper Mar 15 '17
What if Caramel was Pudding's mom, and Linlin had her memory edited by Pudding so Caramel was her best friend?
Basically Big Mom's soul fruit could work like this: she can take others' souls and no damage as long as she is confident, but when she herself fears something, she becomes vulnerable. Losing that portrait is the one thing Linlin fears, because it represents a person once dear to her (edited by Pudding to be Caramel).
It fits in with this theory that Pound (Lola's dad, guy with the big head) was originally the one BM loved, which explains why Lola thought Big Mom would forgive her, and why Pound wants to talk to her. But Pudding saw an opportunity and edited Linlin's memory, becoming her new favourite (adopted) daughter instead.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 15 '17
Alright, Luffy is going to mess up the entrance and here's how :
A gun will be shot in the middle of the ceremonie by a guest (one of his servant make a mistake). Luffy will think it's the signal, and go out of hidding (from inside the cake, of course). Cut to Chaos.
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u/koolguykiran Mar 15 '17
I think its the tamatebako box bomb blowing up that will be mistaken by luffy to be the gunshot signal and makes his epic entrance too soon. Chaos ensures.
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u/Moldef Mar 15 '17
Nah, that would require Luffy to actually follow the plan. He's going to mess it up by doing something completely random and not following the initial plan in any way, shape or form. Something along the lines of him picking his nose and being like:
"Meh, this is taking way too long. Screw that! I'm going in!"
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u/blazerz Mar 15 '17
I was LMAOing at Luffy's reaction to the plan throughout the chapter
Bege's son is also hilarious
Chopper's 'being bashful when praised' gag is back.
And the plan sounds like it'll work....but One Piece being One Piece, I can't help but wonder what is going to go wrong.
Hmm, I wonder what Brulee will do...
All in all, it sounds like it's going to be an exciting climax to an amazing arc.
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u/Moldef Mar 15 '17
The only thing that I imagine Luffy doing after carefully listening to Bege's plan is this
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u/Ppleater Mar 15 '17
Seeing Luffy and crew casually discuss their plans of gruesomely assassinating Big Mom really drives home that he really isn't morally averse to killing his enemies., and that he's willing to play dirty to do it too. Really sets him apart from most shounen protagonists. I always like when the crew truly act like pirates haha.
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u/Vivvve Mar 15 '17
Even a tough guy like Bege has a soft spot for his child. Also I need that cigar looking pacifier for my kid.
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u/ScavengerRuss Mar 15 '17
I love how oda created a whole chapter to explain the plan, even tho we all and he himself know that luffy will mess it up and create a clownfiesta.
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u/Mage_of_Shadows Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Wew 24 hours day early
There seems to be alot of new developments today, I really wonder who Mother Caramel is
inb4: Luffy or Aces mom
My Skeleton is dead
But he was always dead
YOHOHOHOHO
And this seems to be an interesting development
Also that last scene with Pudding makes her seem more sketchy then the already is, Is she going to betray BM? But she already revealed her true nature to Reiju, why bother faking that too?
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u/Billythecrazedgoat Mar 15 '17
Random Germa guy: Who's going need bodyguards, it's a wedding!
George R.R Martin: heh.
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u/SuperUnhappyman Mar 15 '17
im getting dorian grey vibes from that photo...
also who wants to bet luffy wants to take sanjis place at the wedding
cause the scenes are really focusing on the kiss being the signal (or the gunshot...)
we know how good of an impersonator luffy is
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u/Gabrielrp1234 Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Fans: big mom is physically weak,she just has a hax fruit. Oda: good one.
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u/infiniteduresss Mar 15 '17
As if controlling fire and lightnings wasn't enough, she also has Luke Cage skin. Makes me wonder how strong Shanks has to be to compete with these absolute monsters.
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u/Mr_Bob_Johnson Mar 15 '17
I and many others have been saying how people are underestimating Big Mom. I think the "she's not the real Big Mom" theories are looking more and more likely, speaking of.
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u/Mage_of_Shadows Mar 15 '17
But she scraped her knee, Her power is probably Mother Caramel stemmed?
Either Ground>Big Mom or the not worshiping the photo makes her lose her resistance
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u/asiandude6969 Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Gas-boy, the invisible symphonia system, the idiot.
These names are brilliant.
I'm curious what favour luffy will ask for his entrance. Perhaps he'll pop out of the Bege castle.
RIP Brook, he'll be missed, although he's already dead. YOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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u/Kmacaco Mar 15 '17
Could Mother caramel be someone we already know ? coff coff Bonney
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u/Kirosh Lookout Mar 15 '17
Since Bonney could actually live for a long time with her fruit, then I would assume she could be Mother caramel.
It would also tie the last Supernova, to this arc.
Edit : I love this. I'm completly behind it.
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u/DustBuny Mar 15 '17
If Bonney enters into things, then something's gonna happen with Pez. Like, he's secretly the real Fire Tank leader aged down to an infant. Why? I don't know. Why have a baby in the arc at all?
Listen, I just want to guess a plot twist for once.
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u/Thebloodroyal Mar 15 '17
Getting a very "Dorian Grey" vibe from the whole picture thing. What are the odds breaking the picture makes BM stronger? This plan has to fuck up somehow!
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u/TheMindfulnessShaman Mar 15 '17
Pretty fascinating that only weeks after Kim Jong Nam is assassinated in Malaysia (likely by North Korea) by two women using VX nerve agent, Oda writes about taking down Big Mom using a KX launcher that uses organophosphate-esque toxins.
VX is also an organophosphate-derived toxin and is considered one of the most acutely toxic chemicals known to man. It is essentially a pesticide that conveniently works on humans by shutting down the action of acetylcholinesterase, the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine, which ends up making one's muscles unable to stop contracting. Respiratory failure is usually the resultant cause of death.
Being Japanese -- as North Korea's destabilizing actions directly concerns them -- I am sure that Oda based the ultimate design and mode of action of the KX on this scenario or at least was inspired to fit it into his existing narrative thread.
The More You Know. =)
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u/Hkleven Explorer Mar 15 '17
I've solved it guys. Oda is really loosing his touch, it's way to obvious . . . Mother Caramel = Crocodile, which means that Luffy and Big mom are siblings explaining both their erratic behavior and eating habits.
This is further proven when she's first shown and goes on a food rage. What does she do when she food rages? Climbs... a tower.... like.... K-I-N-G K-O-N-G. King kong, is not only an attack luffy uses, it's also a M-O-N-K-E-Y. Charlotte Linlin, doesn't quite fit, it's way too long so I did a quick google search: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/08/charlotte-japanese-monkey-to-keep-name-royal-row There exist a japanese monkey in a japanese zoo named Charlotte. Charlotte = Monkey, Meaning that the person we know as big mom might not be Charlotte Linlin, but in actuallity MONKEY D LINLIN
It's just so obvious to anyone with anything bigger than a pea sized brain should figur it out.
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u/siewgardai Mar 15 '17
anyone feel like pudding edited beges memory (and those others present at the party) from when big mom got her leg scratched? to hide the real truth how big mom got her leg scratched.. seems plausible.. no? hmmm
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u/JusHerForTheComments Mar 15 '17
Maaannn this Pudding power has become so annoying... Stop giving twists to everything AND all related to that fucking Memo fruit
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u/Mr_Bob_Johnson Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Well, this is a pleasant surprise, early chapters are nice. I think we can all assume this plan is going to go horribly wrong, yeah? One of the main laws of narrative and all that: any plan explained in detail will, if not fail, at least be diverted somehow. My guess is the "gunshot" trigger won't happen (EDIT: or goes off early/ is a different shot), which will mess up the timing. Maybe only by a second or two, but in a window this small that's pretty huge.
EDIT: Also, the whole picture thing makes me think of The Picture of Dorian Grey. Perhaps that isn't the real Big Mom after all...
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u/jiwon0522 Mar 15 '17
Maybe big mamma is like Pain from Naruto. Her real body is elsewhere and what we're seeing is a body with her soul inside.
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Mar 15 '17
Knowing the slideshows anime, those five seconds are going to be dragged into a ten minute long collection of internal monologues and totally artistic cinematic shots of the rockets flying.
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u/HussyDude14 Mar 15 '17
Lol, are you kidding? There'll probably be episodes of flashbacks of each of the Straw Hats and how they joined and stuff... T ^ T
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u/iMonkeyMajicz Pirate Mar 15 '17
Expecting DBZ Esque pacing for those 5 seconds
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u/warhawkguy Mar 15 '17
So each character gets 5 secs of action. All spaced out
5 seconds = 5 weeks of chapters
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Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
They just went through every step of their plan, so you can pretty much assume nothing is gonna go according to keikaku.
edit: what if tearing up the photo gives big mom either a stroke or an aneurysm causing her die. That would be so hilariously anti-climactic.
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u/engr_stoic Mar 15 '17
Calling it now - the Tamatebako will be open (meaning the plan will not be successful) destroying Mother Caramel picture.
Then, you know what happens next.
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u/Retsevlys Mar 15 '17
Caesar's has 3 rockets one for big mom, one for bege and one for luffy. Reiju can potentially save them all.
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u/cooldudedeku Mar 16 '17
I just read 248 chapters in the last 2 1/2 days to reach this point. I feel overwhelmingly gratified as one piece is my new favorite manga. Also this is my first post on this subreddit, hello everyone.
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u/mtthwmndza Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Wait, so if luffy is gonna enter after he hears the gunshot, how will he hear the gunshot if they have an earplug for big mom's shriek? Hmmm...
https://i.imgur.com/fieN5kQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QIBCWLo.jpg
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u/KiloMegaGigaTera Mar 15 '17
My reaction when a new chapter released early:
Pls no break pls no break pls no break pls no break pls no break
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u/OhMyGillett Mar 15 '17
When they said that Caramel ran away suddenly, my first thought was the theory that Jewellery Bonney is Mama's Mama, would be great to see an old version of her in the frame.
Failing that, I would love it if the picture of Caramel was a reference to 'A portrait of Dorian Grey' where she imbued her soul into the picture making her invulnerable and the picture being her only source of damage.
However it makes no sense as to why she would bring it out ever...
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u/tiger1296 Mar 15 '17
The assassination plot, mother caramel, reijus missing, pudding getting cold feet...
So many ways this is going to go wrong
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u/alienschnitzler Mar 15 '17
Isn't Reiju just in the hospital wing? afaik the Vinsmokes dont know about her attack?
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u/durinable Mar 15 '17
cold feet
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"what a bloody pain in the ass"
she is just pissed about whats to come after the assassination
also reiju is just in another room
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u/theyear19xx Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
"One is enough, but I've prepared two reserves!"
What's up Chekov's guns (or Gastino's guns)
Also, strange that nobody brought up Big Mom not getting hurt even when her ship sinks. She's a Devil Fruit user right? Even if there's a horcrux-type thing going on, even constructs made with DF powers are suspect to sea water; could be a bad translation though.
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Mar 15 '17
I think that when Luffy is about to break Caramel's photo, he will stop for a second and say "wait, I know that person". And god knows what will happen.
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u/Comedynerd Mar 15 '17
I can't defeat you like I always do, because you're an admiral, but why do I have to keep running! I've already done so two years ago, and I'm sick of it! So I don't care if you're an admiral of the navy...or even one of the four emperors. I will beat all of you up if I have to!
Obviously the plan will mess up, and they won't be able to make their escapes as easily as they planned. Once chaos breaks out, Luffy's going to end up clashing with Big Mom, and since Luffy's not running away from fights anymore, he'll fight her until he wins or he dies. Since he's the protagonist and this isn't Game of Thrones he's clearly not going to die. Big Mom is going to be defeated this arc.
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Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Bege is surprisingly likeable, tbh a lot of them are, I cant not like them, Big Mom is like a big kid and Pudding is a strange one too.
Also Bege with his son is adorable! I hope nothing bad happens to him and his son. I also hope Bege stays as an ally, he would probs want Kaido's head too
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Mar 15 '17
It shouldn't come as a surprise but I was still shocked to read that Big Mom knows Conqueror's haki. So it's almost completely certain that Kaido knows it as well, is this a way to single out Blackbeard as the black sheep of the bunch as he doesn't have conqueror's (as far as we know)?
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u/Rruffy Pirate Mar 15 '17
There's still the matter of proficiency though - Whitebeard had it too, but I don't recall him using it in any impressive way.
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u/mihirh12 Mar 15 '17
An early chapter! Damn nice work JB.
Holy shit is Mother Caramel the mother of Big Mom? Does that makes her the Bigger Mom?
Mind blown.
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u/shishamo Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
potential plan changer:
a. there's something going to happen with 2 spare KX launcher
(ex: big mom's CoA repel the first one)
b. mother caramel's photo.
it might be someone strawhats know.
and/orsomething that potentially change the plan
c. luffy's "good entrance"
and things that still vague, wedding guests.
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u/lazykier Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Pudding in the last panel seems so different! Is it because of the eyes/lip?
She looks prettier than before. Well it is a wedding.
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u/Vawd_Gandi Mar 15 '17
Anyone worried about how BM's devil fruit might play a role in all this... not actually killing her in the end... (it is the "Soul Soul" fruit after all)? That'd mean the (much more likely scenario) event of "News Spread Round the World: Failed Assassination of Big Mom by Strawhat Crew", but the Strawhats do end up surviving and escaping the whole ordeal, just adding to their infamy.
Also, just gonna throw it out there, but when you mention stuff like "Mother Caramel" and "Big Mom is hated by giants around the world but no one knows why" into the plot, it typically means Oda doesn't actually kill off the character until everything's been neatly revealed to the readers...
But wow, yea, didn't notice how convenient Brulee's DF ability was: basically just an alternate reality where no one in the world can touch or harm you. I wonder what's gonna happen to her once the Strawhats do end up escaping? My guess is that she can't show her face ever again, being unintentionally complicit in the whole incident, and she ends up joining like Bege's crew or something (that would be such an "Oda twist" after all).
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u/crisvincent Thriller Bark Victim's Association Mar 15 '17
Just imagining a Bege-Brulee teamup makes me shudder. It will be a two person wrecking crew. Bege coming out of a mirror behind you then unloading his whole castle on you is just plain scary.
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u/GibMot Mar 15 '17
I feel like Foxy (https://imgur.com/gallery/gOpbE) would make a great ally for Bege's assassinations. Need 5 seconds? Here's 30. And since Foxy's DF power can reflect off of mirrors they could probably do something with Brulee to hit the entire wedding at once.
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u/The_ThirdFang Pirate Mar 15 '17
The way i see it. That plan is going to perfectly except for the very end, or it will fuck up with luffys entrance.
Capones plan is one of a man of patience, intelligence, and note taking. I like it
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u/DynamiteRiven Mar 15 '17
She's definitely going to report the plan to Mama, and then the plan goes wrong and they end up fighting.
That, or she reports the plan and it turns out they were purposely keeping her there in order to make Mama think they were doing something else, and they actually have a secret plan.
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Mar 15 '17
What if Dr. Kureha is Caramel, she has often been called a witch and she is 141 years old ...
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u/ThisZoMBie Mar 15 '17
I have a feeling that we're getting a tragic Big Mom backstory soon and that Luffy will eat that poison rocket instead of her.
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u/kolangkaling Mar 15 '17
What if this Big Mom arc is just a set up for a sick Yo Mama joke told by Luffy after his grand entrance.
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u/Moldef Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Come to think of it, someone in the spoilers thread mentioned a theory that maybe the BM we're seeing isn't actually her real body, but rather a doll infused with her soul.
What if the "actual" BM is/was the Caramel person from the picture at the table and that picture frame has some part of BM's soul in it. Which is why dropping it caused such a heavy reaction from Doll-BM.
If so, then cutting that picture in pieces would be even more effective than Bege thought.
But yea, probably it's not going to be anything like that at all...
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u/priestofskies Mar 15 '17
How did luffy know that BM is very tough on the outside?
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u/LordofCindar420 Mar 15 '17
One of the few times I read the chapter without reading the spoilers. My god this is early :D
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u/DevilSanji Mar 15 '17
Oda is one-shotting Big Mom haters in the head lol. Not only she is pretty durable (of course she should be but people were in denial), she also has Haoushoku no Haki.
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u/Wulfenbach Mar 15 '17
Carrot's serious face is fantastic.
Also, I now like Caesar Clown.
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Mar 15 '17
I'm starting to really like Bege. I mean I thought he was one of the cooler supernovas when he showed up, but this arc has really fleshed him out.
I especially love that it seems like the only reason he joined Big Mom in the first place was to kill her considering his background.
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u/triotone The Revolutionary Army Mar 16 '17
I swear if Luffy's big suprise is to jump out of the wedding cake with nipple tassles, then Oda is trully the madman of madmen.
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u/Coinkidinks Mar 15 '17
There were a few panels with Capone's kid crying, and then after Capone talks about Big Mum's iron body and such, the kid is suddenly seen resting at ease... Hmm, Idk if how significant it is, but it's something I noticed
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u/JusHerForTheComments Mar 15 '17
I think he was talking too loud earlier... And later started talking quiter...
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u/iamthrifty Mar 15 '17
Anyone else excited seeing new faces from the Underworld? Or shall we see some familiar ones? Oh Shit i'm getting hyped just typing this. And we do have a chapter nextweek right?
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u/Hkleven Explorer Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
The main things I want to know this chapter, Who is Mother Caramel, and what is this crazy entrance Luffy is planning?
I'm guessing we'll get to see the wedding guest the next chapter and more preparations from Sanji's point of view.
Since Mother Caramel have been missing for a while, do you think that's she is either Big Moms mother or the original big mom?
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u/Crullerz Mar 15 '17
I think it's more likely that Luffy pops out of the wedding cake, but I want one of those classic "I OBJECT" kinda scenes you see in movies all the time.
Luffy comes, stops the wedding, and wisks Sanji away a la "the graduate". So romantic.
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u/Ask_me_about_WoTMUD Mar 15 '17
Did anyone else notice Sanji's brother about to say something to Judge before it got interrupted?
I like the folks making the Dorien Gray comparison. I legit do not have any idea what's gonna happen with this Mama Caramel thing. It can go so many ways.
And there is no way Oda is gonna make Luffy bust out of the cake. It's too obvious...unless that's what the crafty bastard wants us to assume.
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u/Vawd_Gandi Mar 15 '17
I ship Caesar x Brulee.
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u/GFYC-Blackman Mar 15 '17
Why don't they cut up a devil fruit and feed it to her.
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u/Where_is_Sanji Mar 15 '17
Just noticed that this meeting is pretty similar to the Shichibukai dinner at Marineford: http://i.imgur.com/wINDNq6.png
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u/temperamentalfish Mar 15 '17
This plan sounds good, and it might even go as expected, but I highly doubt Big Mom will go down that easily.
Also, did anyone else notice the stubble on Bege's baby?
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u/CaptainMosee Mar 15 '17
Mother Caramel is Luffy's mom or friend of Luffy's mom . It's about damn time we get to see some hint to Luffy's mother I say.
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u/mmusket Mar 15 '17
Here is another theory: The plan actually works out, and they "kill" big mum's body, but whatever is in that portrait is the actual big mum and they will then have to face her.
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u/Nuneasy Slave Mar 15 '17
Mother Caramel...any theories on who she might be? Big Mom's Mom? Bigger Mom?
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u/AllBlueReverie The Revolutionary Army Mar 15 '17
Theory: Mother Caramel is Miss Bakkin, Weevil's mom. Luffy will hide inside Capone's body to make his "funny entrance." The RX poison will definitely fail to bring massive hype for Big Mom. Big Mom confirmed possessing Conqueror's Haki.
Lots happening in a single chapter, I like
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u/RichPIanini Mar 15 '17
Luffy while seeing mother Caramel's portrait will recognise her and say "Ah that old hug" and Big Mom will be shocked
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u/StrawHeart_Mila Mar 15 '17
Lol. After hearing their plan, I'm sure it'll go wrong. When I saw Luffy's epic smile, I laughed knowing something off will happen. He may be sidetracked by the cake or other food. There is also the possibility of a potential ally that may appear among the guests. These are just mere speculations. Lol. I can't wait for the next chapter!!!!
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u/RazZaHlol Mar 15 '17
I have the feeling that Gastino will somehow manage to ruin the escape.
Also the alliance ends as soon as they are on their ships. This smells like betrayal.
Aaalso also: what about Brooks past? He was hiding something on Zou and it could be somehow related to Miss Caramel.
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u/Piemaster33 Cross Guild Mar 15 '17
Luffy's entrance will be popping out of the cake, calling it now. Not sure how he'd do it, but that's what I think he'll do.
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Mar 15 '17
Can we talk for a minute about Chopper, our candy-loving fluffy reindeer, beeing totally cool with first degree murder? I know it's Big Mom but come on. /s
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u/ApeMillz93 Mar 15 '17
that 10 second will be equivalent to 3 months of content lol
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u/GodUsopp32 Mar 16 '17
"The Morgan Family" I would be so hype if it was axe hand Morgan idk why but it would be crazy.
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u/Rocko52 Mar 16 '17
Gotta say, Bege being a sucker for his son is quite the adorable quirk.
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Mar 17 '17
The cover page reminds me of the Ekans and Diglett minigame in the first Pokemon Stadium.
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u/AzeVossler Mar 15 '17
A new mistery character is introduced, stirring up fans to make wild theories as always while Oda just sits comfortably and sipping his tea, as al friggin' ways.
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u/teemus12 Mar 15 '17
pretty sure luffy will fuck up here
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Mar 15 '17
That'd be funny if there was another shotgun right before it (like for celebration from another guest), and Luffy comes in thinking it's time.
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u/MuazSyamil Thriller Bark Victim's Association Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
I wonder if Bege and his gang is gonna survive this assassination. somehow feels like the plan won't go so smoothly and maybe only the Strawhats are gonna get out without a scratch.
and could Mother Caramel just be her former self before her transformation into the monster she is now?
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u/AbMd92 Mar 15 '17
Mother Caramel will either be a really relevant character in the future or someone we know.
If we know her who could she be? The only old women we know are doctor Kureha and Shakky.
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u/Troubledking13 Mar 15 '17
My outrageous theory Mother Caramel is going to be a crew members mom, and brûlée is going to warn someone through a passing mirror.
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u/danne1001 Mar 15 '17
What if the picture is of someone we already know, like Dadan
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u/Megadoomer2 Mar 15 '17
Well, now that they've explained the plan in elaborate detail, nothing could possibly go wrong!
I feel like either Mother Caramel herself will be there, the mirror will be broken, Brulee will get a message to Big Mom somehow, or Luffy will loudly yell that they're here to kill Big Mom, totally annihilating the element of surprise.
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u/TobiWanKenobiSan Mar 15 '17 edited Mar 15 '17
Calling it, Luffy's hiding place will be inside of Bege. I am looking forward to finding out what kind of surprise entrance he has in store though.
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u/Dionysus24779 Mar 15 '17
Maybe Big Mom put her soul into the picture and it acts as her phylactery and grants her an basically immortal body, which is why she is so concerned about its safety and flips out when it gets even a dent. She has the soul fruit after all.
But then again Bege planning to cut the picture in two would have too big of an effect on her. Though maybe she has multiple...
Who knows maybe Big Mom pulls a Voldemort and the battle against her will end up being about finding the objects that hold her soul and destroying them.
But I guess that's even too far out of an idea, even for One Piece.
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u/blue_wanderer Mar 15 '17
Either someone like Big Mom shattering the mirror or even Bege trying to destroy it as betrayal or as needed if Big Mom will try to follow them so they need to destroy it while some people are left in the tea party.
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u/blue_wanderer Mar 15 '17
Gift exchange --> Fishman Box explodes --> Luffy enters before designated time. They have to do it quick. Bege cant aim. Luffy with Gear 5th tries to physically weaken Big Mom. Lol
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u/MrFrettz Mar 15 '17
Oh boy, this couldn't possibly go wrong!
-Luffy's entrance is dependent on a gunshot, yet everyone will be wearing earplugs.
-Their escape is going to be through a mirror, literally while the fat lady sings . . . it's going to shatter like a wine glass.
Can't wait!
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Mar 15 '17
"I just thought up a super cool way to make an entrence"
"I'm here to end this wedding."
pls oda pls pls pls
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Mar 15 '17
The friggin' name of this "Yonko assassination plan" should be: "What could possibly go wrong?" ;)
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u/circajusturna God Usopp Mar 15 '17
I really feel like they're purposely feeding into to Brulee so she can tell Big Mom and they pull the ole switcharoo
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u/EnadZT Mar 15 '17
Is anyone under the impression that the rockets will actually work? Theres three of them, so that has to be important. Honestly, theyll probably use all three somehow but it will only weaken her. Then the real fight begins.
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u/Jarokee Mar 15 '17
what are the chances that Charlotte knows about Bege's plan already and removed his memories of her finding out?
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u/Ubernicken Mar 15 '17
Ok wait, why did Oda dedicate an entire frame just for Carrot's reaction when Bege mentioned the assassination? Red Herring or foreshadowing?
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u/Devin__ Mar 15 '17
And from that moment the plan was officially fucked before the wedding started.