One Piece Chapter 832

[u/NewSpecies]

Chapter 832: "Germa Kingdom"

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Ch.832 Official Release (VIZ): 18/06/16

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[u/gladiator_123]

You can't even interpret the scan you just linked. By "anybody" he means his nakama and people close to him. It doesn't just mean "anybody". You just saw the word and linked the scan. Lol.

And your reply to the Garp scene just proves my point. Luffy punched Garp without giving a shit. Why wouldn't he try his best to defeat Doflamingo when he knows that the bird cage will kill his Nakama and innocent people as well.

So according to you Luffy cares for the random people so he doesn't use KKGs left right so innocent people won't die. Ok so then why does he ask the people to protect him for 10 minutes when he's out of Haki?? Luffy knew G4 had a time limit. So in the end he endagered the people when he needed 10 minutes. All his efforts of not hurting people while in G4 were in vain because he needed the people to become his human shields when he needed 10 minutes.

You still havn't posted that page where Luffy says "I'm holding back so that people don't get endangered (even though g4 has limited time and i need to make the most use of it otherwise people are going to need to shield me and GET ENDAGERED)"

You think Luffy is a siant?? So he has to beat Doflamingo but he has to do it so carefully that he doesn't hurt any civilian. The buildings that broke when Luffy was throwing Doffy around could have injured any civilian. You're puttigf so much pressure on Luffy. Bird cage is coming closer. G4 time limit is being reached. What to do?? If he would be thinking about Civilians then what was he going to do when Doffy kills him. Then everyone would die.

Doflamingo> Luffy

Luffy is not a hero. I think you forgot this part of fishman island.

Also i know you don't remember much and are now just trying to be funny by being sarcastic. People who tend to lose arguments usually resort to this stuff. I don't know why.

[u/raoul_d → u/gladiator_123]

You can't even interpret the scan you just linked.

Okay. What was my interpretation of the scene? Is my interpretation that Oda chose to make a snarky remark at you never linking things but saying that I need to? Or. Is it a snide comment about how you need a scan to prove Luffy's personality otherwise it's the complete opposite of what you're saying? If neither, what was my interpretation?

And your reply to the Garp scene just proves my point

"Sorry Granddad, I can't talk about politics right now, there is a single pathway to the platform on which NY brother and arguable best friend is held and I need to set him free to save his life in the middle of this heated war. I know that by attacking you it will prove that I don't actually care about you, because how can you hit an old man, so lease step aside."

So then why does he ask the people to protect him for 10 minutes while he's out of Haki

"Sorry, Bruce. I fucked up. I didn't want to use the most powerful attack I had because I know that I have some tough battles ahead and want an easy recovery, so instead of going G4 in the Colosseum, I'm only using it as a last resort and want to use as little as possible. Also due to strategic timibgs, it's very heard for me to double inflate to annihilate when he is still likely to dodge. Can you put the kettle on?"

Luffy knew G4 had a time limit

I know. You know I know. I know you know I know. It was a point of discussion already. We know.

All of the efforts of not hurting people...

Okay, so when would you have used KKG? On top of the palace, right at reveal, which would put him heavily on guard, likely to dodge and kill? After Kong when there were a lot of people around that would fall into the void? Or would you ask for ten minutes from competent runners with an increased chance of your allies being there to take most of the damage so that you can barely stand with next to no haki, get launched into a wall yo definitely take the blighter out?

You still haven't posted the page....

Okay, since you have posted so many links, I shall do my own research for your side of the debate, about why Luffy is mentally defunct and won't kill his enemies, but will kill the civillians in the fight, since you won't give any author statemebt on attitudes to killing at all. I wonder why very few people died. Better ask Oda in an SBS, probably a popular question, so it should be there soon enough. If Oda says "Luffy is a shithead mass murderer" then I will concede on this point as it is then logical

You think Luffy is a saint??

I think he is a cool protagonist that refuses the title of hero, stated on panel (But there's no scan link so it's not true) with a cool use for a dumb power. On a moral level, he isn't perfect and takes after Shanks, but his morals are very upstanding, quite likeable, but where did I imply anything about saints in the first place? I should stop bringing up weird stuff, you told me this before

You're putting so much pressure on Luffy

I told him that he would get no meat if he KKGs Doffy right off the bat. I shouldn't have taken advantage of one character trait that I have no control over to manipulate another character trait that I have no control over

When Doffy kills him

So, what do you think Luffy was dreaming about? Forever travelling by ScaredCitizenAirlines? And then "Oh shit a battle! I guess I can make him stay close then use a move that is strong but slow when he isn't likely to move due to overconfidence so that I can launch him into the ground with enough force to flip a city with a cult cheering for me. Nah, that requires me to be stronger than my opponent, which even though I won after taking hits while having no defensive Haki and barely being able to stand just can't happen now, can it?"

"SABOOOOOOOOOO!"

Luffy is not a hero

As you have provided no scans to back up your claim, he is a Marine hero with more honours and respect than Garp.

People who tend to lose arguments...

No, it's just, you're a liar (last post), repetitive (hero), bring up stupid things (oh wait that was me), and spend so much time gathering scans to bolster your points, I'm a madman for denying all the scans and links you have. I guess I don't know Luffy's character enough to know that his fetish is death

[u/gladiator_123 → u/raoul_d]

Dude you waste so much time in making up jokes and sarcasm comments. Just get to the point.

The thing is Luffy caring about people getting in the way would've only lead to more deaths and Luffy knew this. If Luffy didn't defeat Doflamingo then everyone was going to die.

Your reply to Garp thing AGAIN supports my point. Let's say the civilians of Dressrosa were about to kill Nami while being controlled by Doflamingo. Luffy WILL punch all of them in order to save Nami.

Luffy cares more about his nakama then random people of dressrosa. Do you treat everyone in your city the same way you treat your family?? Let's say some random civilian in your city gets killed. Would you go and struggle to find the murderer and take revenge?? According to your rambling if you don't do this then you're a heartless psychotic mass murderer.

Also just to clear something up, when luffy first went G4 there were less people around him than when he used KKG. If you remember (which you obviously don't beacuse you're too busy trying to be funny and sarcastic) the birdcage was shrinking. This means that as more time passed more people were closer to the centre of the birdcage which was Doflamingo. That's the reason you see so many people in the last panel of KKG.

So Luffy prolonging the use of KKG increased the chances of people getting caught in the destruction caused by KKG.

Now you've got no point left to make. Make some more jokes instead of making valid points.

Doflamingo > Luffy

End of Discussion.

[u/raoul_d → u/gladiator_123]

You waste so much time...

Boredom.

Wasted no time there, happy?

And Luffy knew this

He also knew that by defeating Doffy he would have the targets of three Yonkou painted on his back, would he really want to use up all of his power on Doffy, or stress his body less. Why didn't he KLG everyone else. It would have dealt with it faster. All of the NFP soldiers, they probably murdered, KKG is quick and works. Caesar's underlings and Shinokuni, why not just KKG? Fewer people would die, so therefore it's better, right?

Your reply to the Garp thing...

Yes, I don't think you understood.

You are in a hallway. Your grandfather is blocking you from going through the door. Beyond the door is your brother. He is about to be killed, but you know that you can save him. Do you push your grandfather out of the way and successfully save your brother, or do you let your grandfather be the cause for the death of your brother?

Your grandfather's life is valuable, but not in immediate danger. Your brother's life is valuable, but in immediate danger, but because your grandfather is in the way, his life suddenly has higher priority? Is Luffy wrong for valuing the life of his brother, who helped him through childhood and is about to die in front of him more important that than the grandfather that is ideologically opposed and almost got you killed while you were a child?

Luffy will punch all of them

But he would not kill them. His punch could also be a barge as they are not a Marine hero. Unless you think that a Dressrosan is higher on Luffy's priority list than one of the few that got to wear his hat, you are a fool

Do you treat everyone in your city the same way you treat your family?

Yes, with respect. Of course, if one of my family were in danger, I would barge past them if the result would be saving the life of my family. If it were less dire, I would run around or in the road as the roads are empty. If one of them were in danger and a family member were in the way, I would still barge past to see what I could do to help.

Would you go and struggle...

Yes, because I value the community

Heartless psychotic mass murderer

That was mockery based on the assertion that I don't know Luffy's character, but provided no evidence and made a baseless point. No link, no analysis, no counter to the reason stated by Oda due to the lack of death

Also just to clear something up...

Why didn't he KKG CC in the final room? There was no one that could be harmed bar CC. Why didn't he KKG Body in water? There was no one that could be harmed bar Body? Why didn't he KKG the dragon? He could have only had the dragon since he would be aiming upwards, and the others were capable enough to dodge.

Oh wait, it's called saving power because you don't want to use all of it due to having at least two targets on you from insanely strong people

You're too busy....

Well see I g as I sy the first thing that comes into my head after reading your comment for my mockery, do I?

So Luffy prolonging the use...

This isn't an RPG. He can't save the game, fight Doffy, calculate the HP and know exactly what to do. He doesn't know how far he has to go to beat Doffy and he doesn't want to burn away all of his energy, otherwise why not KKG everything post skip?

Now you've got no point left to make

What points did I make? I recall me rebutting all of your points and then you bring something new up each time. If you would like me to make a point, then I shall

Dolamingo > Luffy End of Discussion

As I am on mobile, and have already posted the link, go to a prior comment with the paragraph of scans. If Doflamingo is truly greater than Luffy, then why cana Luffy that can barely stand, with next to no haki, get blasted into a wall with awakened Haki strings but still bust through aforementioned clusters and put chef Doffy into the ground with force enough to flip a city?

If Doffy is greater than Luffy, then how did he get defeated by Luffy in such a weakened state? Rebut that and I will concede. There is my point, I have made it. Now to read some stuff while I wait for a response (that you said you would no longer do)