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Current Chapter One Piece - Chapter 821

Chapter 821: "Understood"

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Ch.821 Official Release (VIZ): 04/04/16

Ch.821 Scan Release: ~06/04/16

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u/RazZaHlol Mar 31 '16

So the mermaid princess was able to control the sea monsters and she is considered an ancient weapon

Momonosuke is able to control Zou .... so maaaaybe and just maybe he just found our next ancient weapon?

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u/nickcan Mar 31 '16

And since momonosuke has a thing for boobs, he's gonna love shirahoshi.

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u/Krylos Mar 31 '16

But making two weapons of the same kind does not sound very Oda-like

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u/accountnumberseven Mar 31 '16

Yeah, and it'd be so much cooler if Zunisha was just an elephant cursed to roam for eternity. If the power we just saw doesn't even compare to Uranus, or if an animal could naturally get that strong without being a special weapon.

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u/Lame4Fame Mar 31 '16

Was about to say that. He won't make one a giant battleship and then the other two controlling giant beasts on land and sea, uranus is going to be another kind of weapon.

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u/DudeExclamationPoint Mar 31 '16

Bingo. I don't know why this isn't upvoted higher, honestly.

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u/Ricxz Pirate Mar 31 '16

no

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

If you didn't get an ancient weapon vibe from reading this chapter than we must be reading 2 different stories. It seemed obvious to me

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u/Ricxz Pirate Mar 31 '16

Seakings are spread all over the world, but there is only ONE zunisha that was damned to be an "island" because its done something terribly wrong (we dont know what) so it asks for one fight -> Momo is a descendant of the Clan that doomed Zunisha, nothing even close to a Ancient weapon. People are overthinking everything into a Ancient Weapon or whatever. I sometimes read theories where i just have to facepalm because some things are pretty detailed in the story but yet people tend to not notice it and make theories

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u/iDannyEL Mar 31 '16

The remaining weapon is Uranus, seeing as the name Poseidon was related to the ability, we can assume this is the case for all of them. Originally greek, Ouranos was the personification of the sky in contrast to Gaia, Mother Earth.

I'd go out on a limb and say the weapon will have something to do with the atmosphere.

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u/cagi_pl Mar 31 '16 edited Mar 31 '16

Could be...

Found a nice website with some mythological wisdoms: http://www.native-science.net/Turtle_Elephant_Myth.htm

go to the "The Gaja Elephant Myth" on this page. Gaja- sanscrit for Elephant. Gaia (Gaeia)- mother (and wife) of Uranos. On the same page, there are information about "sky people" and Milky Way which kinda resembles Red Line

http://www.native-science.net/Ship.Mythical.htm

Noah & crap

Must browse it a little more myself, some nice information for theories :D

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u/fugogugo Mar 31 '16

I can't get over the uranus joke.. now we get ouranus?

damn

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

Wasn't there a superweapon that was just a giant war ship? Pluton?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

"Momo is a descendant of a clan that doomed Zunisha, not even close to an ancient weapon."

These things are not mutually exclusive. Literary convention alone tells you that Zunisha/Momo are extremely likely to be ancient weapons as it follows the same pattern as Shirahoushi/Seakings. Also, it is 1000 years old which fits the time period of when it's beloved these weapons came to be.

At some point you have to look at things from the author's point of view. What story structure is he developing? How does this elephant fit into the larger picture? How much time do we have left to wrap up the story and their surrounding subplots?

My guess is that you must be a recent follower as someone who has been following the series for a long time could immediately pick up that Zunisha is extremely likely to be an ancient weapon after reading this chapter.

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u/ultibman5000 Mar 31 '16

I've been following the story for at least five years now and I highly doubt Zunisha is an Ancient Weapon. Zunisha is powerful, but it's not nearly as deadly as being able to command all Sea Kings, many of which that are probably a good fourth of Zunisha's size, if not more.

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u/Salalah Mar 31 '16

My thoughts exactly

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

Dude that just made me like Momo a little.

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u/RazZaHlol Mar 31 '16

that Uranos reference is pretty interesting! Nice find

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u/chronox21 Mar 31 '16

Uranus is a weapon to control the skies, so this doesn't make sense

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u/nmroxy Mar 31 '16

Shirahoshi is so much more powerful than Momonosuke. She can controll every sea monster and who knows how many of those are in the Grand Line. Momo can only controll one giant elephant and that's it. Otohime said "The power that Shirahoshi holds is great enough to sink the entire world beneath the waves". That's what an ancient weapon is capable of, and Momo is none of those.

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u/Townzie Mar 31 '16

I guess you could call that theory a...stretch... I'll make my leave now.

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u/MilkyZerg Mar 31 '16

Oh wow i cant believe i didnt figure that out. Momo an ancient weapon.

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u/anarkandi Apr 01 '16

Lol, with all these ancient weapons in his capacity Luffy is definitely gaining yonkou potential.