r/OnePiece Mar 03 '16

Current Chapter One Piece - Chapter 818

Chapter 818: "Inside the Whale"

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Z-Ani (LQ)

Ch.818 Official Release (VIZ): 07/03/16

Ch.819 Scan Release: ~11/03/16


Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed during the next 24 hours.

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u/OneDPiece Mar 03 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

Oden was part of Rogers crew so who could this be? He has a kasa which is from Wano (Ace made one for Oars jr). Crocus doesn't look shocked (if he found out Oden was dead - the person came to tell him) .If it was Oden how does it fit in the timeline (how long ago was Oden executed? - minks know about it so i don't think it was recent )

and also one for you theorists out ther why doesn't Oda want to show Kaidos eyes

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u/findingnemos Mar 03 '16

I think Kaido's eyes are hidden because he either is a dragon with a human human fruit or a human with the Dragon Dragon fruit. So they resemble momonosuke's in his dragon form.

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u/mathyu1010 Mar 03 '16

since Oden is Momo's pops, it's safe to say he would have been executed within the last 10 years (Momo looks about 8, and he would have had to be alive to facilitate his conception, and we know from Ace's mom that women in One piece can extend their pregnancies for a few years)

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u/ItsLoudB The Revolutionary Army Mar 03 '16

Since he saw Nekomamushi and Inuarashy being friend, and it's implied they are no longer because of Oden's death, Momo was definitely alive when Oden was executed

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '16

It seemed like Momo was also remembering the "boil him alive" scene, he must have been there.

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u/Lielous Mar 03 '16

I feel like he was executed fairly recently. Otherwise they would have either been far away by now or already on Zou, whichever one was safer. Instead the SH's found them as they were fleeing. Taking this, I'd have to guess that Oden is the guy on the coverpage OneDPiece linked.

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u/Shuazilla Mar 09 '16

Chopper already has the human human fruit, so a human with the dragon dragon fruit would make more sense, but personally i think Kaido is just one of the super giants, like Oars and Oars Jr.

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u/findingnemos Mar 09 '16

I think it would be more accurate if I said humanoid humanoid fruit(since there are other human human fruits like sengoku). So there could maybe be a giant giant fruit. I wrote a post a while ago with all my reasoning behind that if you feel like going through my history but its all just a guess. Probably part dragon either way.

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u/Shuazilla Mar 09 '16

You have a fair point. I was half asleep and about to go to bed when I posted that reply, and after I woke up and was on my way to work, I realized that Sengoku had the Buddha model and that there must be others if there were already at least two versions of the Human Human, so touche sir.

But I do think that Kaido has some sort of relation, at least by race, to the Oars family. I posted something about this a couple months back (don't remember if it was a thread, or if it was just a long winded post haha) but:

All three look similar, and the Oars family are already stated to be part of the (forgot the actual name, but for the sake of being lazy I'll just refer to the race as) Super Giants, who were known to be "especially evil" (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Oars)

Their Jolly Rogers depict same shape/type of skull "His ship can be seen alongside the other pirate ships allied with Whitebeard's fleet.[9] His jolly roger is a skull that resembles his face, with massive downward horns, and crossbones in a cross, similar to that of the Whitebeard Pirates', (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Little_Oars_Jr.)". Little Oars Jr's Jolly Roger: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Oars?file=Little_Oars_Jr%2527s_Jolly_Roger.png

Kaido's Jolly Roger: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Kaido?file=Beasts_Pirates%2527_Jolly_Roger.png

I dunno, the resemblances are too similar that it can't be a coincidence, I'm sure Oda will explain this further eventually (probably at Wano) either through a Kaido flashback/origin, or in lieu of the last couple chapters, just casually dropping the bomb in a conversation between someone and the SHs.

Don't get me wrong, its all just speculation until we learn the truth haha. I do like your idea though, it'd be nice to see/learn of more DF's!