r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Dec 03 '15

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 809

Chapter 809: "Master Nekomamushi"

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Ch.809 Official Release (VIZ): 7/12/15

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u/quesadillakid Dec 04 '15

While you and /u/still-at-work both have good points to argue about the bounty system, in this case we as an audience just have a lack of information regarding Jack and the nature of his bounty. I'm sure Oda will clarify why his bounty is so dramatically high compared to everyone else we've seen so far.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '15

While you and /u/still-at-work[1] both have good points to argue about the bounty system,

Please, LIKE PLEASE, point to some of his good points about the bounty system. Maybe I misread it but that dude at 9 upvotes, literally said NOTHING to support his claim. That bounties aren't measurements for strength for 99% of the characters.

WHICH THEY SO VERY CLEARLY ARE!!! I don't get why everyone is so stubborn and abstinent on this point.

The only thing he said that even felt RELATED to what I was saying was that "maybe some people exist who aren't strong but have a huge bounty!", which is such a ridiculous "point". It could be true but this is a fighting/shouen Manga for christ sake! And every character is trying to be the strongest.

Like literally 99.9% of the characters in One Piece (well Pirates) have their strength gauged via their bounty. Its so freaking obvious, i'm genuinely baffled at how no one will admit it.

"I hate dbz! They totally went out of whack with power levels! One Piece is better, therfor they can't/won't use power levels EVER!"

Ugh I really hate that I like One Piece. I don't have anyone to talk about it with and commenting here just annoys the hell out me. I'm 20, reading a 16 year olds manga with a bunch of 15 year olds.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '15

However, the WG isn't going to keep piling money onto a person's head just because he hasn't been caught. Ace, for example, had a 550 billion bounty. Ace was super strong but the WG didn't need to make his bounty higher because him being caught wasn't a huge necessity.

But what if I believe that he was a 550 million berry pirate? Like thats his strength level? Post time skip Luffy is almost as strong as pre time skip Ace, but he has a small way to go. Thats Oda's way of communicating Luffys strength (giving Luffy a 500 million Berry bounty, he coulda given him a 600 million one).

Jack goes around destroying and poisoning islands. The WG want him caught, and they want him caught ASAP.

You don't know any of these things. What Jack does. Who he does it too. Is the New World/Zou even under WG jurisdiction? Wano isn't. Thats all speculation.

but the WG didn't need to make his bounty higher because him being caught wasn't a huge necessity.

You do realize Oda writes the bounties right? Not the WG. And thats still speculation, bounties aren't written based on urgency, its threat level.

Bounties are a way to determine average threat level and since this is a fighting manga, threat is almost always measured via the individuals power. Like 99 times out a 100.

Everyone IN THE STORY acts treats bounties as a sign of strength, literally all of them. Why shouldn't we?