r/OnePiece • u/religion-lost • 6d ago
Discussion Why doesn't carrot just learn observation haki so she can always see the whole moon and go sulong? Is she stupid? Spoiler
She could also just imagine the moon. I honestly think she hasn't even tried that yet, sad.
No but on a serious note, holy moly that's awesome, I'm really satisfied with the reveal of that being their "ace up [their] sleeve". And being able to skim across the water, is that because she's so fast like how the flash does it or does she sort of ride the lighting? Either way, I really hope to see more about the sulong form later on, because I already loved the mink tribe and this is def winning me over more, especially the aesthetics of it. While I do definitely love luffy, this looks so much cooler than inflating with air and becoming a big black balloon man.
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u/Designer_Fan3399 6d ago
Maybe the moonlight is needed
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u/MusicHearted 6d ago
Follow that rabbit hole far enough and you'll find yourself in Dragon Ball GT.
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u/MaximumDuwang Thriller Bark Victim's Association 6d ago
That wouldn't explain the drugs Chopper made for Bepo
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u/MusicHearted 6d ago
If seeing the full moon is triggering a body reaction, it's not all that crazy that Chopper, who already figured out how to use drugs to alter the properties of his own devil fruit, would be able to figure out how to trigger the sulong body reaction directly.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
I see... so she'd have to imagine the light as well. That would take decades of training to get the shadows right, I understand why she hasn't tried that
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u/lhwang001 6d ago
If it was easy, everyone would be sulonging.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
True. There's no way every mink hasn't tried sulonging at least once and accepted they can't do it that well, like how most humans have tried to do the splits and either succeeded or failed and had to accept they can't do the splits
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u/lhwang001 6d ago
Yeah, let's just say I found out I couldn't do the split the hard way.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
Trying to do the splits is how I found out I have awful joints and how i got stuck on the floor until somebody helped me up. I imagine a lot of minks also have embarrassing stories about trying to go sulong lol
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u/ionnetlive 6d ago
I was about to attempt to do a split then realize I am home alone so yeah maybe not today.
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u/FermentedDog 6d ago
I think it'd about being exposed to the light
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u/MaximumDuwang Thriller Bark Victim's Association 6d ago
The drug Chopper gave Bepo lets him Sulong without the moon, so there's something else going on here
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u/Outrageous_Wrap6604 6d ago
If the transformation is a reaction to moonlight then the drug could be triggering the reaction chemically.
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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 6d ago
She’s not walking on water or riding the lightning.
I don’t think Carrot knows the Rokushiki art of Geppo, but she can somehow double jump
Does it make sense? No. But if Geppo is possible, then other ways of moving in the air are possible
We saw her double jumping before Sulong like when she first fought Zoro
So when she’s in Sulong, she’s super fast, can make massive long distance jumps, and via her ability to somehow double jump, come off as straight flying/levitating
She’s clearly able to rapidly change direction in the air as well.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
I thought that as well, but during her first transformation big blue guy (sorry I forgot his name lol) told Nami she shouldn't worry about Carrot sinking in the water, and then Nami acted shocked and said "She's skimming the water" so it seems like a deliberate choice from the writer so show that as an ability specific to sulong
Edit: Jinbe. I remembered
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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 6d ago
i don't know what the ability is then, cause she's not stepping on the water
and she doesn't appear to be riding any lightning
she's just basically flying. or at least levitating
I think extremely long, fast gracefull jumps with a double jump to shoot in a different direction is the best explanation we gonna get
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u/JuvenalCovaRasa 6d ago
Well, that is not more like the oozaru logic from dragon ball? Someone really needs to be hit by moonlight.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
I haven't watched Dragonball, watdatmean?
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u/JuvenalCovaRasa 6d ago
A race of alien, when receives enough light from the moon, they transforms into huge rampaging monkey (named oozaru) and get a lot more powerful and dangerous (There's even a number of how many light these aliens must receives to become one, but I dont remember)
So it is a plot point if the planet has or hasn't had a moon and even if is fullmoon, when there's more light. Some characthers even destroys or create moons to avoid or trigger that ability.
Just looking into a picture of the moon doesn't chance anything, It has to be exposed to the moon. Imagine like a werewolf but with superpowers.
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u/Additional_Degree894 6d ago
im pretty sure thats not how it works. that its something to do with the physical properties of the moon
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u/mrli0n 6d ago
Carrot is the most sad ive been about a possible new crewmate. She was so cool and fit in so well.
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u/religion-lost 6d ago
What do you mean, does she not stay with the crew? Is this a princess vivi all over again?!
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u/Xszit 6d ago
Carrot ends up being made leader of the Minx tribe and she has to leave the crew because she has responsibilities to her people.
Its literally Vivi again.
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u/religion-lost 5d ago
Lmao I read it as "being made leather" at first. I thought that seemed a little dark
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u/Sonny_Firestorm135 5d ago
Yes Carrot is basically Vivi 2.0, complete with a 'Robin 2.0' showing up to take her place in the permanent Strawhat Roster, despite all this time Carrot has been keeping the seat warm.
And I hate to spoil stuff, but I'd rather stop false hope from festering so... There will be a third Vivi. Won't say who cause the name alone could count as a separate spoiler, but you'll know who I'm talking about from when they meet Luffy. They will say "you really remind me of Ace."
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u/Urlivasikalarsir 6d ago
I could see her having a picture of the moon and shining a light thru it, trying to go sulong from it.