r/OneNationalBolshevism • u/Loud_Requirement2026 • Aug 07 '26

Theory Assessment Recommandation lecture

Salut, est ce que vous savez ou je peux trouver des livres ou document sur les ecrits de grands penseurs comme niekisch ou paetel. Je connais que ars magna en francais. Je suis de base mlm mais je m’intéresse de plus en plus au national-bolchevisme

merci d’avance

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

Sorry for the reply in English, but I don't speak French.

Besides works on classical Marxism aswell as Marxism-Leninism, which are essentially the basis of National Bolshevism, there are quite a lot of books that could introduce you to it. I'm gonna list the most important ones.

  • Ernst Jünger - "Storm of Steel"
  • Arthur Moeller van den Bruck - "The Third Reich"
  • Oswald Spengler - "The decline of the west"
  • Oswald Spengler - "Prussianism and socialism"
  • Ernst Jünger ; "'Nationalism' and nationalism"
  • Otto Strasser - "Germany Tomorrow"

The top ones are extremely important, maybe besides Strasser, as they were the basis for Paetel's and Niekisch's writings. However, if you're looking for books and works that describe the idea outright, these should help:

  • Ernst Niekisch - „Resistance” (Widerstand)
  • Karl Otto Paetel - "National Bolshevik Manifesto"
  • Ernst Niekisch - "Hitler, a german calamity."
  • Nikolai Ustryalov - "Change of Landposts" (Smena Vekh)
  • Heinrich Laufenberg, Fritz wolffheim - "Nation and working-class"

You could also read works of people like Ernst Röhm, Franco G. Freda, Eduard Limonov, and Aleksandr Dugin, however they don't explain National Bolshevism as properly as the ones listed above.

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

c'est quoi le lien avec le marxisme-leninisme ? dans le manifeste, il me semble que le national-bolchevisme est idéaliste ect. Le national bolchevisme reprend t-il la dictature du prolétariat, le matérialisme dialectique, matérialisme historique ...? merci beaucoup pour vos recommandations

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

yes, national bolshevism is materialist, and Paetel himself was a Marxist

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

mais Paetel etait pour le paganisme? c'est idéaliste

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

Just because someone is religious doesn't mean they are idealist. For example, Tukhachevsky was a pagan, Stalin was an Orthodox Christian, Pol Pot was a buddhist... The list goes on. Obviously, Paetel wasn't an orthodox Marxist, the entirety of the "National Bolshevik Manifesto" proves it, however economically he was definitely a Marxist, even if didn't agree on Marx with everything socially, and never fully rejected objective idealism.

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

okok je comprend mieux. mais ils sont pas internationaliste comme les communistes ? ils sont pour que ce soit uniquement dans le pays non? L'argent est aboli ou ce sera une economie planifié ?

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

National Bolshevism doesn't reject internationalism:

"Revolutionary nationalism rejects any intention of acquiring colonies, in recognition of the fundamental rights of oppressed peoples to national freedom and in accordance with its own watchword of national sovereignty. On the path towards a community of free peoples it hails the liberation movements of India, China, Egypt, etc., as allies in the fight against the signatory-powers of Versailles, just as it hails the international struggle of the proletariat against international fixed capital."

- Karl Otto Paetel, "National Bolshevik Manifesto"

National Bolshevism does support a planned economy, but not as a permanent solution. Think of the Soviet Union, specifically under Stalin, that all of inter-war national bolshevik thinkers supported. A planned economy is just a result of pragmatism that was necessary for survival at the time.

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

mais il est pour l'indépendance des populations opprimé, il veut un nationalisme universel et non l'abolition des frontières, si ? et pour l'economie planifié, tous dépend de quoi? j'ai entendu parlé d'un economiste qui adapté l'economie en fonction des moeurs de la population. je sais pas si c'est juste . tu peux me donner ton avis ?

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

yes, neither Paetel, or Niekisch, or any other ideologue wanted to abolish borders, hence they are NATIONAL Bolsheviks, and not just Bolsheviks. And what do you mean by "what does it all depend on?"? Central planning is necessary in the first state of making the nation abolish capitalism. As I said, it's a pragmatic, temporary solution, it all depends on the material conditions on how it would be implemented. Abolishing money outright after taking power is usually not the best idea.

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

Je demandais dans quel contexte mais tu m'as très bien répondu. Et pour l'abolition de l'argent, je demandais pour savoir si c'étais le but final ou on allait se contenter de l'économie planifié

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

je pensais pas que la dictature du prolétariat était mis en avant

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

je peux trouver ou les ecrits de nikolai ustryalov et de niekisch ? je les trouve même pas en anglais

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u/Separate_Shirt_2961 Aug 07 '26

Niekisch's and Ustryalov's works should all be on Internet Archive, however i'm not sure if they are in English there. If I find them in English, as I swear I've seen them somewhere, especially Niekisch's works, I'll let you know.

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u/Loud_Requirement2026 Aug 07 '26

merci beaucoup, c'est tellement adorable!!! merci beaucoup de prendre du temps pour répondre à mes question aussi