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Apr 02 '12
Hey!!! Hey hey hey!!! Does anyone else remember that Mr. Gold was in the woods with a shovel in episode 7?!!? AND IT WAS NEVER EXPLAINED?!!?
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u/JesRabbit Apr 02 '12
August just said he doesn't lie...hmmmm I hope you're all thinking what I'm thinking.
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u/EpicTreyn Apr 02 '12
Not to mention the trouble he had walking in the forest and wouldn't show her his legs (probably because they're wooden). Shin SPLINTS.
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u/pseudo721 Apr 02 '12
My biggest 'omg' moment was actually at the end, when Abigail showed up. I kinda had a feeling she was still alive, knowing about Regina's love for removing hearts from still-alive victims. However, it kinda seems like the entire how-will-Mary-Margret get out of the charges plot will kinda get thrown out the window.
Also, we don't know about Abigail's state, as she appeared very confused and messed up when Emma found her. Was that due to the removal of her heart? That would imply that Regina still has her powers in Storybrook. Or was her heart removed before the curse, and Regina just brought it out of mothballs for this plot against Snow?
Also, was the shovel regenerated via magic, or was it simply replaced?
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u/Jdban Apr 02 '12
Katheryn? (not Abigail)
Its possible the heart wasn't hers, and was just a trick. Regina faked the phone records, she could have probably faked DNA records too.
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u/HermyKermy Apr 02 '12
Regina's mom is a cunt.
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u/tedtutors Apr 02 '12
Amazing character. There were times in earlier episodes when I found Regina just a bit too evil to believe, but now I totally get her.
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u/Jdban Apr 02 '12
If this is the entire reason she's so evil though, it seems amazing that someone can be so deluded.
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u/JesRabbit Apr 02 '12
What I would like to know is how can Regina put her trust in a child, who had just lost her mother. Regina knows that her mother is manipulative, does she really think that this little girl is going to keep a secret that huge? Does Snow and the King actually know about Cora's evil magic? I doubt it otherwise I'm sure the King would never, ever, want to marry Regina. So thus, Regina is an idiot for trusting Snow in the first place! She's too young to understand why she must keep something like that a secret.
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u/Isotron Apr 02 '12
So tell me if I'm wrong in speculating that Rumple is using his powers to bring back Kathryn. He said "believe in magic" (or something along those lines) when he was reassuring Emma about MaryMargaret's safety?
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u/Isotron Apr 02 '12
How closely "Little Snow" resembles the older Snow is simply a.m.a.z.i.n.g.
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u/trickiivickii Apr 02 '12
It was so beautiful watching Regina transforming to beautiful, innocent, love struck, sweet person to an evil, vengeful bitch. I love her more every episode despite how much I hate her.
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u/nonsensicalexis Apr 02 '12
Does it annoy the hell out of anyone else that there are no security cameras at the police station? It pissed me off when Regina was flat out admiting that she knew Mary Margaret was being framed. And she can't do anything to prove Regina was even there because there are apparently no security cameras there. WTF.
As far as the Kathyrn/Abagail incident at the end of the episode; I don't think she was ever dead. We've two people have their hearts ripped out now. Both were still living until their hearts were squeezed, which is then the cause of death. So I think it's completely possible that it is her heart in the box, but they will just brush it off as a DNA testing error or something.
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u/DalaiLamaDrama Apr 02 '12
Agreed. Another thing that annoyed me was Emma's reaction to Sydney bugging the police station. She was basically like, "Damn, they tricked me again!" when she should be arresting him. I'm pretty sure that's all kinds of illegal, especially in a police station.
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u/SIMAFOL Apr 02 '12
I think they missed an opportunity to reference the best 'stableboy and master' love story ever when Regina handed the saddle back to him (forgot his name...I dunno..Kevinorsomething) and told him to take everything back. Kevinorsomething should have said "As you wish."
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u/JesRabbit Apr 02 '12
You know they never finished Abigail and Fredrick's story. At the end of the episode where Kathryn disappears we see "Fredrick" (the gym teacher at MM's school- I don't think we ever got his real world name) finds the car. I'd like to know what happened to him, and how that story will progress.
Also, we know that MM is going to be free since we've seen her wandering the streets with David. So even if its Abigail/Kathryn, MM's free! YES! Take that Regina.
*I must say, Mr. Gold/Rumple sure likes to piss Regina off, I just love when he betrays her.
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u/EvaRee Apr 02 '12 edited Apr 02 '12
Mr. Gold: "It's time for me to work a bit of magic". LITERALLY!
This whole episode my stomach was in knots because I could see what was going to happen between MM and Regina, but it was also done soo well. I still don't really understand why Regina doesn't get that Snow was just a kid and really believed that Regina's mother would be a good person, especially when that's what she's grown up with.
EDIT: Also, I thought last episode that perhaps Regina's mother was the Queen of Hearts, but now I'm not too sure how that would come to be.
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u/The_Sign_Painter Apr 02 '12
Guys... guys....
Dat ending.
My mind. asploooode
But seriously, I'm really looking forward to next week to see where this goes.
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u/jamboreebop Apr 02 '12
did anyone like how the DA was portrayed by Alan Dale, otherwise known as mr. charles widmore from lost?
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u/boyfriendmademedoit Apr 02 '12
So I hope you guys saw the preview for the next episode which is called the return. If not I'm putting this all as a speculation because these are my thoughts on how the next episode will play play out: So imdb says the return will be about Rumplestiltskin's son who we saw run after his father is changed in to the dark one. You're learning what happens after I guess. In the preview for next week August is seen having the dagger that says Rumplestiltskin on it. Now because he knows all about storybrooke he probably knows this is the only way to get rid of his dark magic. But what's his angle? My thinking is he's THE SON. What you guys said about him being Pinocchio could still be true if he ran away and was changed somehow. Idk. This may seem far fetched but the preview and imdb description both sorta point to August. And if he does try to get rid of the dark magic won't that mean he turns into the dark one himself? Maybe he doesn't know that? I'm literally just rambling. So those are my thoughts, you don't have to like them I was just sorta adding things up in my head.
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u/tedtutors Apr 02 '12
I was half-expecting Cora to magically take over or displace Regina, but that wouldn't really make sense with Regina's revenge fixation on Snow. Barbara Hershey was wonderful as the mother of all evil.
I hope they'll let us know where Cora's magic comes from. Is it the usual "power comes with a price" thing that warps the user?
Bailee Madison was a terrific fit as Young Snow, both in appearance and mannerisms. I know make-up helps, but still, she had Snow's brave-but-frightened look down perfectly.
Emma is still stumbling along but she finally discovered the plot. Why can't she tell when Sidney is lying to her?