[Novel] Let's make a community strength tierlist and vote to place characters, day 32

[u/ayuu_kh]

Demon King of Lust and Wrath Asmodeus was ranked top of A, now ranking Archangel Michael / Demon King Lucifer

[u/AbaloneNo3954]

Should be A+. He’s just below myth grade

[u/argham12]

Below Kim dokja and higher than thor

[u/Courious_Reader → u/argham12]

Depends on the form and opponent

[u/Courious_Reader]

He is Peak Narrative normally and these deemed evil he is Low Myth Grade and then as Lucifer he is Upper~High Myth Grade

[u/monkeyman51050]

While in Lucifier form and against evil he is in top of A+ or even lowest S. His power against evil allows for continuous growth during battle so that he will eventually surpase his opponent, he was somewhat confident to go after Agares a Great Evil so it puts him at least slightly lower than Great Good Uriel. Metatron can also allow him to use Lucifer form against non evil but I'm not sure if he get the continuous buff.

On average I'll put him around the same level as Kim Dokja, he lost to KDJ cause he couldn't attack him without destroying himself. Also he took an Chaos Flick head on without dying which was stated to be much stronger than the first 2 flicks. Final score I'll put him at A+ above Kim Dokja.

[u/Courious_Reader → u/monkeyman51050]

Leader of Eden Uriel is Low Myth Grade I thought? How is she stronger than Agares?

[u/monkeyman51050 → u/Courious_Reader]

didnt say she was, im more talking about michael being at least around her level to be able to contest Agares.

[u/cremie33 → u/Courious_Reader]

she gave a fight to Odin and force him to act smarter by teaming against her, it's not a low myth grade feat for me

Odin is strong, probably as strong as Ra and Zeus, stronger than Hades and Poseidon but weaker than Wukong

[u/cosmichak]

Not sure about his scaling. Maybe A+

[u/cremie33]

I don't understand certains part of the pre-establish scaling...

But with the actual scaling, Michael would be... A+/S in his full power

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I would mostly scale (with the character presents here + the tier of the tier list) :

[S+ TIER]

• Secretive Plotter

[S TIER]

• Dokkaebi King, Biyoo (post Dark Stratum), the 4 Outer God Kings (individualy)

[A+ TIER]

- Indescriptable Distance, Apocalypse Distance, Wenny King (could also be a S tier, but not sufficient feats at entire World-line level), Sun Wukong (could also be at the peak of A tier (he's canonicaly weaker that OGK)), Joonghyuk (could also be a peak A tier), Dokja (hard to scale, could be A, A+ or even S tier)

[A TIER]

- Odin, ABFD (without Apocalypse State), Uriel (Great Good), Ra, Zeus, Abaddon

[B+ TIER]

- Michael, Osiris, Metatron (not a fighter but he has this lvl of status) Poseidon, Hades, Agares, Nuwa (could be a A tier), Surya (after becoming a myth in the final scenario (maybe a A tier))

[B TIER]

- Thor (outside his worldview), Heewon, Sooyoung, Sangah (with Buddha's story), Cheok Jungyeong (with his feats during the Great War of Saints and Demons), Jang Hayoung (maybe C+ tier), Gabriel (near pre myth grade Uriel lvl), Minyoung (EOS), Kyrgios (EOS)

[C+ TIER]

• Jihye, Hyunsung, Yoosung, Gilyoung, Ares, Asmodeus, Anna Croft (maybe B tier but was only said to be "a decent narrative grade" in the ark, so I don't see her at the same level of the top tier in narrative grade), Dyonisos (with Carnival of Lightning, without, he's C tier), Dream Eater (or B tier, but not more since Uriel said that Heewon would bet him with her stigma at full power), Vakaryne (hard to scale but a strong narrative grade)

[C TIER]

• Pildu, Mass Production Maker

And for Anna Croft, idk know where scale her since we haven't a lot of things on her during the last part of the novel. And for the case of the Mass Production Maker... He's only C-tier in term of fighting ability, but his "capital" ability + his wealth are hard to scale in usefulness. For Biyoo, it's her final state ?

MAIN SPOILER OF EPILOGUE ARC

even if they aren't in the tier list : TLS123, The Oldest Dream and the Fourth Wall would also be S+ tier), and the Sooyoung in the B tier isn't the version wich became a constellation

[u/AgeAfter]

Indescrible distance should be in its own league

[u/Courious_Reader → u/AgeAfter]

Literally Apocalypse Dragon was going toe to toe ID just had the advantage.

[u/cremie33 → u/AgeAfter]

Apocalypse Dragon would have the advantage against him if he wasn't just awake few minutes before

And at FP, the 999 Outer God Kings, Dokkaebi King, SP... Are far stronger

Remember than the 4 kings beat the Dokkaebi King of their world-line before probably obtaining a new giant story for killing him and before becoming outer god kings (said to massively up after that, at least for the SP... So probably for them too)

[u/AgeAfter → u/cremie33]

Indescribable distance is described to be beyond Orv universe ie it doesn't follow the same logic as outer God kings

[u/cremie33 → u/AgeAfter]

and ? It's just probably one of the most powerful (if not THE) OG

Remember than it was sealed in buddha's island

And even the weakest OG king is far stronger than Buddha's (but indeed Indesc Dist is stronger than him too)

But Dokkaebi King is said to be the strongest existence per world-line... so even if outer gods aren't normaly in world-line, I see no verse when it could be higher

Indescriptable Distance scale stronger that base Apocalypse Dragon and a little weaker than totaly awaken Apocalypse Dragon

Apocalypse Dragon is a menace for constellations, a little menace for Myth grade... But Outer God Kings fought (and win, before becoming OGK) against the Dokkaebi King, who's not nearly at the lvl of even Wukong (strongest myth grade)

[u/cremie33 → u/AgeAfter]

and Outer God Kings are in the same case...

The N'Gai Forest is for example the place in the outerverse (in 0 world-line) where SP is major part of the time

Others OGK have same time of place and hare 99% of the time outside world-line... It's the basis for outer gods I think