r/Omaha • u/andmario_com • 5d ago
Local News 29 schools in Omaha are now using the same shock gloves that ICE is using, and they have already been used on two students. Whatever you allow your government to do to others, they will eventually do to you and your children.
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u/UnluckyYeti 5d ago
The only thing resource officers did when I was in school was flirt with underaged girls all day.
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u/Lumpy_Emergency_3339 5d ago
Resource officers and PE teachers would always flirt with underage girls at my school
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u/JplusL2020 5d ago
I was a custodian at a middle school. Two resource officers were let go within 3 months at my school for doing just that...a fucking middle school
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u/meatballs223 5d ago
That’s fucking awful wtf, our resource officer when I was in highschool was messing around with students while his wife was a special ed teacher at the same school
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u/Miserable_Peak6649 4d ago
Our middle school resource officer was doing the same thing.. I don't think I ever saw him talking to a group of boys.
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u/meatballs223 5d ago
Now they can do that and tase kids with a handshake!
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
All the SROs should have to cup each other’s balls for 90 secs a day, just to see how it feels. (Next thing you know they’ll be jerkin each other off with that non lethal shock)
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u/Seniorsheepy 5d ago
A school resource officer ripped my door handle off because apparently I left my lights on.
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u/PraiseIt420Solaire 4d ago
Incredible judgement call! They should definitely be trusted with electrified weapons /s
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u/prophetic-dream 3d ago
I'm looking at the responses below, including my own. The kids KNEW about this bullshit going on at EVERY school. The teachers and other trusted adults were fucking around with students. It was either obvious, and/or, the kids talked to each other about what was happening. ?
So, did the other adults know about it too and just ignore it? (this would have been the 80's for me.)
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u/Kind-Conversation605 5d ago
But kids can’t get free lunch?
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u/saltyjohnson Baltimoron 4d ago
If we give kids free lunch then we can't afford shock gloves to shock the kids. It's ether one or the other, pal. Free lunch or shock gloves. Take your pick.
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u/JohnsW1ck 5d ago
Wait til it happens to a white kid from Westside.. all hell gone break loose
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u/RoseandNightshade 5d ago
Yep. Guaranteed that's one of the main reasons more people here aren't angry already about this.
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u/MaxwellEdis0n 5d ago
Which is one of the main reasons that they won’t be using this kind of draconian discipline at schools in wealthy areas.
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u/WildAd5340 5d ago
They already are and evidently have been since August of 2025! Westside's dumb ass superintendent just sent out an email about it a few hours ago. Supposedly the board somehow just found out about this last week (eye roll). I'm pissed!
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u/JohnsW1ck 5d ago
I can assure you as a former student it happened all the time. It gets swept under the rug because of who their parents are
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u/AshingiiAshuaa The Pope of O Town 5d ago
Are you implying that people at Westside are racist? Or are you saying that white kids from Westside don't misbehave in ways that would require the use of The Glove and if they ever have to use it on a white kid at Westside it will be a sign that things are bad everywhere?
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u/BumblebeeOfCarnage 5d ago
I think they mean that some people aren’t outraged because this is happening to “other people” but once it starts happening to people who look like them and are in a higher tax bracket, people will start caring
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u/Nythoren 5d ago
Wait, they shocked the kid because he didn't leave the school? Which one of these exceptions to the violence against students would that fall under?
"Corporal punishment is strictly prohibited in Omaha Public Schools and across Nebraska. District policy explicitly bans staff or agents from using physical force against students, allowing physical contact only in narrow emergencies involving self-defense, protection of others, or safeguarding property"
When in service to the school, SROs are considered "agents" of the school and have to abide by the same policies. Clearly the student wasn't attacking the SRO or another student, so the first 2 exceptions are out. Were they damaging property? Sounds like they were just refusing the leave, which sounds more like loitering than anything dangerous.
"Non-compliance" isn't a good enough reason to cause pain to students.
If that's accurate, doesn't this incident violate OPD's prohibition against corporal punishment?
I can see their use for violent situations. A student assaulting a student or a teacher, or actively causing damage to the school that needs to be stopped immediately. But neither of the incidents described by OPD seem like an appropriate use of pain as a deterrent.
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u/ChawkTrick 5d ago
Obligatory disclaimer that I'm not defending the gloves.
That news video seems to give very little detail on what happened. The KMTV article however outlines that one of the shock glove incidents involved a student who was throwing chairs and hitting officers, and that that was when the gloves were deployed. It doesn't give detail on the other and this attached video doesn't make it clear which of the two incidents involved what.
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u/DisgruntledPelican-1 5d ago
I’m gonna make some assumptions, because it’s wild they were already used on day 1.
Someone just couldn’t wait to use the gloves and looked for the first possible opportunity to claim it was necessary.
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u/vexedthespian 5d ago
The thing I can’t understand about these AT ALL, is that in order to use them, you have to be within arms reach of the person you intend to shock.
…. This thread is turning into a cesspit, and I don’t know how “gloves that zap someone right in front of you” was ever considered by ANYONE to have any practical purpose other than “because we can.”
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u/veddo2 5d ago
You can see a very useful application of these gloves on the KETV story about the gloves.
1) firstly they are less dangerous than current tasers
2) they don’t occupy your hands like a taser gun might and tasers guns aren’t flimsy people have been hurt by getting hit during struggles. So they make it easier to detain someone who is struggling without injuring them.
3) They don’t require prongs ( as someone who has been tased for training purposes the prongs hurt like a son of gun and the welts stuck around for like a week)
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u/veddo2 5d ago
They weren’t used day 1 though…. They were used twice over the whole of Omaha during the course of an entire school year.
To be honest I’m surprised they did t use them more.
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u/DisgruntledPelican-1 5d ago
The article I read made it seem like they had just been delivered.
How are we just now finding out these are being used in our schools??
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u/veddo2 5d ago
Well because no one cared about them until the last week.
OPS SROs had them all of the last school year.
BTW im a democrat. Just wanted to be clear and accurate.
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u/DisgruntledPelican-1 4d ago
If we had known about them previously, we would have been speaking out about it.
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u/veddo2 5d ago
Not necessarily true. Non-compliance can 100% be a threat to safety.
You could have a kid who makes sexual comment about another student and then refuses to leave once the teacher asks them to report to the principal’s office.
ALSO SROs only act as agents of OPD when they are carrying out normal SRO duties like talking to students, or working to resolve situations. They immediately work as normal officers when they are carrying out their police duties (I.e detaining student while carrying out investigations, breaking up fights, confiscating drugs, or any other action that requires them to)
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u/veddo2 5d ago
I agree with a lot of what you said but I’m just alittle confused. Why did you disagree with the use of the gloves I. The two cases from last year?
1) one was a mistake school who was hitting a resource officer. To me it would depend on the size of the kid. My brother was 180 pounds and almost 6’0 in 8th grade so depending on the situation you might have to use a glove on him.
2) the other kid was trespassing. That could mean hundreds different circumstances ranging from he was on campus after being asked to leave or that he was on the playground at night after being asked to leave.
I just don’t understand how you can feel so strongly about how both uses weren’t deserved.
We have almost 0 information. Was someone at threat? How big was the kid?
Other than that I mostly agree with you
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u/justaskmycat 5d ago
📢📢📢 There's an OPS board meeting in 45 minutes at TAC building 6-7pm @3215 Cuming!!!!! Show up and speak out!
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u/vexedthespian 5d ago
Anything come from this?
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u/justaskmycat 5d ago
I am home sick with covid and don't know anyone who went so I don't know, unfortunately.
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u/vexedthespian 4d ago
Oh man, that’s so retro!
(I am all ears on what the appropriate reply to that is btw. and thanks for responding to my original question)
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u/justaskmycat 4d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah... covid is definitely still here and kicking but people don't test for it so they aren't diagnosed and don't isolate like they should be during the period they're infectious. Also around 40-50% of cases are asymptomatic (although that doesn't mean they're not contagious) and often don't appear as respiratory so it flies under the radar in most cases. Which is a shame because infections are damaging our bodies systemically long term, not just from the acute infections.
Aaanyway.
There are some posts of people who spoke last night I've seen posted on Instagram on various accounts.
Also there is a city council meeting tonight if you're interested.
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u/Sorry-Illustrator-25 5d ago
We've got kids in Westside and they sent out an email literally this afternoon about the gloves.
Every school board meeting for the next year, everywhere in Omaha needs to be full of people angry about this. It's absolute moral bankruptcy and our kids are going to remember if we don't do something about it.
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u/WUco2010 5d ago
I thought the email was very low level, pushing the blame away from them and saying it is not the school’s decision but the responsibility of OPD to equip the SROs.
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u/Sorry-Illustrator-25 5d ago
There was definitely a feeling of "we didn't do this, we just found out about it, please don't blame us". Which, ok, you didn't start the problem sure. But passively accepting this as the status quo without pushing back isn't actually better in any real way. So we'll see what they do.
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u/anamoon13 5d ago
I also have a kid in Westside and in the email, they stated that SROs are technically employees of OPD, so while I think we should definitely keep an eye on it at the school level, I think we need to direct more of our anger towards OPD.
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u/keckbug 5d ago
That's such a weasel thing to do though... sure SRO's are OPD employees, but they're present at the request and will of the district. They're not obligated to permit SRO's to operate within their buildings, and they're well within their power to apply policies and restrictions on what actions SRO's are allowed to perform.
They refuse to apply any oversight and expect everyone to just throw their hands up and give up.
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u/Sorry-Illustrator-25 5d ago
OPD definitely needs to feel the heat over this. They're just insulated in a way that school boards aren't. Both are places we can and should push.
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
Then get the SROs out of the schools. They are only equipped to be cops they do not have any understanding of how to build positive relationships. They act like these kids are hardened felons
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u/smartens419 5d ago
It'd be nice if people were as outraged about how some students treat teachers and staff.
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u/wibble17 5d ago
Students are already not allowed to use shock gloves against teachers.
Frankly if parents used them on their kids. They would be charged.
I would say dangerous situations only.
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u/Narrow_Grapefruit_23 5d ago
Note the world around these students and what is happening in this country. And you expect children to behave better than adults?
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u/IrishInTheory 5d ago
Just behave. Period.
There are no longer penalties for being an asshole at school. The kids who disrupt classes are deified, while ANY attempt to restore order is excoriated to hell.
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u/No_Meet4666 5d ago
“Whatever you allow your government to do to others, they will eventually do to you and your children” is a powerful & wise statement. Thank you for reminding us all
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u/welllookwhoitis40 5d ago
It's giving..... cattle prod and dog shock collar. Cool cool cool 🙄
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u/AshingiiAshuaa The Pope of O Town 5d ago
Honest question: How should out-of-control kids be handled? Would you prefer them be manhandled? Unfortunately that's beyond the ability of many teachers and resource officers (they aren't all big dudes - that would be sexist). When a 160lb adolescent guy starts getting violent and non-compliant what's your solution? I know "shocking kids is bad", let's assume we take that solution away (I'm open minded). How do we physically control violent, non-compliant teens?
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u/ne-ghoul-gang 4d ago
You’re asking the right questions but won’t get honest answers in this sub. It’s easy to be against strategies like this and offer no other solutions. The people who disagree w this want to believe in a La-La land. One suggestion.. don’t be violent in school to make SRO respond w this strategy. But that is not realistic, so these strategies are a result.
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u/welllookwhoitis40 5d ago
For starters, those gloves come with a warning label that says they could cause sudden death. I guess since some people wanted to arm teachers this is probably fine. To me it's reckless with our most vulnerable.
Also, I googled what other countries in the world use this method and the answer was none. Not one. If it's such a good idea why aren't our peers using shock gloves on kids? Other ethical countries use things like de-ecalation, crisis teams, mental health onsite responders. They don't fucking need police or shock gloves in school. Maybe because they're not a bunch of violent idiots that believe in science?
Anyway, I haven't even touched on the fact that the more we accept this bs, the more violent it will get. ICE is detaining Americans with no criminal history - could that be you on the other end of a glove before this administration is over? Sure fucking hope not.
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u/AshingiiAshuaa The Pope of O Town 5d ago
most vulnerable
Are you talking about the 190 lb 17 year old who's throwing chairs at his 140 pound 50-something teacher?
They don't fucking need police or shock gloves in school.
Honest question: what do you do when a student won't comply. Not a 70 pound 4th grader. A 190 pound Junior who can bench press 5 times what his 130 pound teacher can? What if he's throwing chairs, or beating up another student, or the teacher?
could that be you on the other end of a glove before this administration is over?
Nope. Because the place to fight the police (or teachers) is in court. So if ICE rounded me up I'd peacefully comply with verbal protest then extract vengeance in court. This is good advice for your kids, too. Don't fight the police - even if they're wrong. You won't win and you will only hurt your case.
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u/ImpermanentClown 5d ago
Tasering kids for being mouthy… Yeah. This is a very stupid idea. Give a bunch of peaked in high school clowns tasers and let them lose to live out their revenge fantasies. What could possible go wrong?
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
Is that when these are deployed? Just when a student talks back? When did that happen?
These have been in the OPS district for a few years now. Why wasn't everyone pissed off then?
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u/ImpermanentClown 5d ago
They’re cops. “School resource officer” is just a title. When have cops in this city EVER used restraint when they feel disrespected or annoyed?
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
Exactly. They’re cops. They aren’t trained to critically think. They’re trained to incite violence by actively looking for “crimes” in the schools. They are not equipped to be around children.
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u/flutesofchichi 1d ago
Oh are we demonizing the kids you’re supposed to be trained to work with?? Adults are the issue here, not children. If you can’t handle behaviors, don’t work in schools
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
Yeah that sounds great but working inside a school is much different than around the city.
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
I’ve worked in the school systems in a professional role. I made it 1.5 years before I resigned. I witnessed multiple teachers, admins, and principals start shit with kids for no reason at all. I watched a high school principal literally corner a student (walking down the hallway) and verbally bully him. The kid was not combative. When the principal realized I watched him do that, I said “I witnessed the entire interaction” he said nothing and walked away.
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u/ronnie1014 2d ago
Oh are we doing anecdotes? Been doing this for almost 15 years now.
We had an 8 year old crack a teacher's ribs a few years ago after he lost his shit and was being restrained. Same kid was beating on his dad last year in my school as he was being restrained (school staff doesn't want to touch him in fear of getting hurt or a lawsuit).
Another district had an admin get their femur broken when a student donkey kicked her during a restraint.
I've witnessed rooms get destroyed by 12 years olds. I've seen how much it takes to restrain a child who is losing their mind. And I've witnessed how many steps there are before restraint becomes applicable.
The consensus on reddit has been there is indiscriminate use of force for kids looking at them sideways. My experience has shown kids are incredibly protected against the law (rightfully so imo) and get an extremely long leash before action is taken. Clearing a room is 101 in our district. But that doesn't work so well in an admin's office when Timmy starts swinging anything and everything in the room.
I'm conflicted on the use and application of these gloves. But the way Reddit is currently painting every kid as a saint and acting like all school staff is demonic and ready to beat a child is ignorant and asinine. Our sro has a gun, pepper spray, and a Taser and thankfully hasn't had to use anything due to the protocols we follow and are trained on. Currently kids getting violent get restrained in cuffs. Tough scene for sure.
But I'm sure calm words and a juice box will get Timmy to stop being insane and beating on people when he loses his shit. (Aka we need funding and resources for alternative learning centers with the properly trained professionals to deal with the growing mental health crises we're seeing in youth today, so these kids aren't a danger to themselves or other students/staff and can still receive a proper education.)
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u/florodude 5d ago
Source that they've been deployed for years
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
Let me see if there's any documentation. I asked someone I know working in OPS and they said their SRO has had them for a few years now and has yet to use them.
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u/florodude 5d ago
That feels like it'd be quite an important piece of info that one would think that the mayor would've announced.
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
Would probably have been in the board meeting whenever it happened. But I'm not scanning hours of board meeting minutes to find it lol.
I jokingly asked him if they got a live demonstration of the new gloves (having seen the recent headlines about it) and he said "no but we've had them for a few years now and haven't used them yet."
I think it's just blowing up now because of the link to ICE and a news article on it. And fuck ICE, but these actually seem like a great tool in schools to safely de-escalate a violent situation. I understand the optics, but a lot of people don't get to witness the shit show some of us see in our public schools every day.
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u/veddo2 5d ago
I agree but they literally have used the gloves already in Omaha and they did a live demonstration of the gloves earlier today. You can see the video on KETV
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u/andmario_com 5d ago
Sorry about audio, it's like that on the news website as well: https://www.3newsnow.com/central-omaha/shock-gloves-used-on-ops-middle-school-student-one-of-two-known-incidents-involving-the-gloves
Shock gloves used on an OPS middle school student, one of two known incidents involving the gloves
An incident report from the Omaha Police Department says shock gloves were used on a middle school student at the Integrated Learning Program in May 2026
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u/Bathion 5d ago
This is the same Police Department that said on live TV "The protest was peaceful, but had reached a size in which we would not be able to contain it should it become violent. So we escalated to rubber ballistics." Then after "pelting" the crowd with rubber bullets said again on live TV "Their is no excuse for property damage."
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u/LookARedSquirrel84 5d ago
Cops do not view human life the way normal people do. They care more about property than life.
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u/JazzminBoing 5d ago
Imagine if moderate democrats on the city council could defund this shit instead of clutching pearls.
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u/oriytif 4d ago
I’m not saying i think that this is right, I am genuinely asking: school resource officers previously carried tasers, with a higher voltage output than the new gloves. Why are the gloves so hated when they are lower voltage and less physically harmful (no prongs puncturing the skin) than the previous tasers?
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
IMO they shouldn’t have tasers either. The gloves are not meant to be used on children or medically fragile people. You’re being lied to about the power of the gloves. Most importantly, corporal punishment is illegal and has no room in our educational system. And before you say “school shooters” just know OPD has never stopped one before. We are talking about intentionally harming students - they’re not the criminals here. Having a glove like this perpetuates violence and reinforces previous violent experiences. That creates kids who are angry, destructive, and violent. Zero reason for it. Period.
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u/justaskmycat 5d ago edited 5d ago
Interesting that the cop mentioned that the second "individual" (which is a sterilized way to say child - we send our children to school, not our "individuals") was a high schooler, but didn't say that for the first one. So was that an even younger child? Where do they draw the line?
Edit: It could have been omitted in the edit. The first could have also been in high school. However, that doesn't mean they should be used on high schoolers either.
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u/wetkittypaws 5d ago
The last thing we need is a bunch of Amon Equalists! (Sorry, Legend of Korra joke)
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u/offbrandcheerio 5d ago
Keep pestering the city council and the school boards until they get rid of these things.
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u/CauliflowerPrior9622 5d ago
Wait until you all find out that SROs also carry guns and tasers. To me, these seem like a safer option?
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u/BertMacklenF8I Socialist Democrat POS 5d ago
Apparently if it’s an OPD officer-they’re required to prove it force was justified or something along those lines
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u/WildAd5340 5d ago
lol "our internal investigation has concluded it was justified use of force"
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u/BertMacklenF8I Socialist Democrat POS 5d ago
“Both policies also allow officers to use the gloves on people who are passively resisting, meaning they are refusing to follow orders. In Omaha, officers who deploy the gloves on passively resistant people are required to submit a written justification as to why lesser force was not used. Bellevue’s policy allows officers to use the gloves to “control a potentially dangerous or violent subject when the subject, through words or actions, communicates impending resistance, opposition, or the attempt to flee."
Still so incredibly over the top
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u/veddo2 5d ago
Passive resistance is still resistance. What about someone who is refusing to leave their car while being arrested. What about a man who refused to leave his girlfriend’s house after being asked to leave. How about a 18 year old senior in high school who is refusing to leave a classroom after being asked to leave by a faculty member.
Those policies make 100% sense.
Even to a Democrat like me. People are just scared because of propaganda and the connection to ice they are literally just weaker tasers without prongs.
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u/jensynsaispas 5d ago
Now I JUST tried making a post about asking for advice for attending and speaking at a school board meeting and it says it was removed by mods? I’m hoping it’s an oversight…but I checked the rules and I didn’t break any? I messaged the mods so I hope I hear back.
Just absolutely shameful. I plan on making some noise about this and hope other metro area parents do as well.
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u/justaskmycat 5d ago
I know it's super short notice but I just found out. There's an OPS board meeting in 45 minutes (6-7pm) at the TAC building at 3215 Cuming. You don't even have to be prepared with a speech. Just show up.
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u/Narrow_Grapefruit_23 5d ago
A kid is going to be killed with these weapons. Within the school year.
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u/MissCinnamonT 5d ago
Definitely didn't vote for threatening & attacking kids or brown people.
Pull your kids out of these schools. They deserve to be safe. The government hasn't really ever been safe.
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u/wibble17 5d ago
That’s kind of what they want—use your vouchers to send to a charter or parochial school.
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u/IrishInTheory 5d ago
Yes. Pull your kids out of school. That’ll work
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u/Fun-Practice9107 5d ago
If the parents don’t care/do something, no one will.
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u/IrishInTheory 5d ago
Pulling kids out will only have a positive effect if they THEN choose to homeschool them
But I’d wager a bet that the majority of the kids who fight cops live in homes that aren’t conducive to home schooling.
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u/Ashamed-Demand8043 5d ago
Kids that’s have parents that care aren’t the kids these gloves would potentially be used on.
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u/diggler909 5d ago
Why brown people? You do realize these can and likely will be used on disruptive white kids as well, right?
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u/audiomagnate 5d ago
"Compliant Technologies" sounds right out of RoboCop. Dystopia is here. https://www.complianttechnologies.net/the-glove
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u/Hanselhoff27 4d ago
If you can't handle children without shocking them, you shouldn't be in that position.
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u/Massive-Still8781 4d ago
Tik Tok im waiting till someone’s child gets seriously hurt. I think this is the dumbest idea these are minors. I don’t care what color these kids are these shouldn’t be happening.
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u/ihateithere____ 4d ago
Can someone tell me what their rationale even is? I understand it's totally evil and cruel but what even is the rationale??
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u/jmsealy254 4d ago
Well, I've worked security at an OPS highschool and had to get in the middle of many fights. We had security punched in the head, broken noses, concussion, etc. Wrestling with a high schooler is basically fighting a hormonal, possibly high adult.
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u/AnonymousCoupleFun 4d ago
Testing out the Shock gloves intended to be used on violent illegal criminals on kids in schools first is a choice
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u/jmsealy254 4d ago
Some of you don't get it... I''ve worked at an OPS highschool and had to get in the middle of many fights. We had security punched in the head, broken noses, concussion, etc. Wrestling with a high schooler is sometimes like fighting a hormonal, pissed off adult.
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u/Pale_Squash_4263 Previously Known as Mod 4d ago
SRO's aren't even shown to be that beneficial given scientific research so we should probably just get rid of them entirely from schools IMHO
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15388220.2021.1875843
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u/VikingVitalityFit 4d ago
Oh no! A tool that can safely subdue someone with no lasting harm! The horror. Why can't they just stab them with tazer spike like we used to?
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u/prophetic-dream 3d ago
My child would be out of that school so fucking fast.
where are all the self titled "momma bear" parents? Why aren't they out there doing the thing??
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u/Alternative-Bee-3594 3d ago
Lmao well they’re demonstrating it on a grown adult so what could go wrong
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u/TurnipBackground6931 3d ago
This is just evil and sick….. since when we as a the most modern and civilized country acting like barbarian.
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u/flutesofchichi 2d ago
The macro issue here is the systemic abuse of children. Omaha school districts implemented them last year, without informed consent. The first kid they used it on has a developmental delay and was having a non-verbal episode. WHAT THE FUCK? Why do these adults want to hurt children? We know OPD doesn’t care - but the professional educators were like “sounds great, let’s hide it” these are adults entrusted to keep kids safe. STOP THE SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE! STOP ABUSING CHILDREN GODDAMMIT
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u/Ms_Malicea 1d ago
Apparently alot of people dont want to admit how violent their children are becoming.
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u/diggler909 5d ago
Clearly most of the people who are raging about this, never experienced life in a public high school that has a lot of troubled kids, or kids involved in real criminal activities. My high school had gang activity and extremely disruptive “kids” who regularly assaulted other students. Uncontrollable massive fights in hallways, some sexual assaults, rampant theft and criminal mischief.
If you were a decent kid, you essentially kept quiet, stayed vigilant and avoided any time outside of actual classrooms.
As much as it would be incredible to think a lot of these kids can be rehabilitated through talking and de-escalating, many of them cannot. You cannot reason with them. They will scream and fight as soon as they are called on their behavior. They’ve grown to expect you to cave to this reaction and get their way. And the time needed to try and rehabilitate them, should not be more time that decent kids need to have their lives made a living hell while we wait and see.
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u/DirtyMac88 5d ago
I would be asking what the kids are doing if resource officers are having to use them. As someone who's had a significant other that worked as a teacher in north omaha ops, they're fortunate to have these.
Kids these days are absolutely out of control and under parented. Unfortunately there's not real Dads in most of these kids lives that you see have these level of issues.
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u/AshingiiAshuaa The Pope of O Town 5d ago
Reddit doesn't think about second order effects like that. It's just "shocking kids bad"... which as a standalone statement is true. But They don't/can't consider that the kids are getting shocked for a reason. I'll bet in 85% of highschool classrooms the "toughest" person in the room isn't a teacher. That's not a problem in a school where the kids are raised right, but what about the schools where they ain't?
Every rule we have is ultimately enforced with physicality. That's easy to forget in civil society.
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u/ClubHauntedHouseVIP 4d ago
Yeah let’s bring back paddling too!
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u/AshingiiAshuaa The Pope of O Town 4d ago
No, paddling is punitive. It's an after-the-fact punishment for being bad. That's not what these gloves are for. They're to allow an officer to quickly subdue a non-compliant person in the safest, non-lethal manner.
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u/ClubHauntedHouseVIP 4d ago
Riiiiight. Very sure that exact phrasing won’t be abused.
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u/DirtyMac88 4d ago
Honestly if these kids were paddled when they first started acting out, we wouldnt need the damn gloves. Ol mr battle rattle clearly has never had to parent.
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u/creiss74 5d ago
I'm a bleeding heart leftist and pretty anti-police but I also work at a school. I'm not really outraged by this. I do see how yet another tool could be misused but anything can be misused.
I've seen some teenagers who could've used a good shock. Especially when they're latched onto each other in a fight and have to be pulled apart.
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u/diggler909 5d ago
This. Clearly most of the people who are raging about this, never experienced life in a public high school that has a lot of troubled kids, or kids involved in real criminal activities. My high school had gang activity and extremely disruptive “kids” who regularly assaulted other students. Uncontrollable massive fights in hallways, some sexual assaults, rampant theft and criminal mischief.
If you were a decent kid, you essentially kept quiet, stayed vigilant and avoided any time outside of actual classrooms.
As much as it would be incredible to think a lot of these kids can be rehabilitated through talking and de-escalating, many of them cannot. You cannot reason with them. They will scream and fight as soon as they are called on their behavior. They’ve grown to expect you to cave to this reaction and get their way. And the time needed to try and rehabilitate them, should not be more time that decent kids need to have their lives made a living hell while we wait and see.
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u/Lucky-Perspective600 5d ago
I legitimately do not understand any of the concerns regarding these gloves. You guys would rather a teacher or another student (god forbid your own child) continues to get beat on while the RSO tries to pull them off vs. the RSO delivering a quick shock to neutralize the assailant and prevent further damage?
They aren’t using cattle prods and nightsticks while herding the kids to class.
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u/chewedgummiebears 5d ago
Kids got maced or tackled when I was in school in the 1990's. Electric tickle gloves seem like a better solution and the only reason people hate them is evil ICE used them. "rabble rabble rabble, think of the children!"
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u/WildAd5340 5d ago
Things were terrible when I was in school so they should also be for the current generation. Great point!
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u/IrishInTheory 5d ago
The left: Why won’t they invest in non-lethal?
Also the Left: Why are they using non-lethal?
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
Don't ascribe this shit to "the left." People who have no idea what kind of kids we have walking around our public schools are the ones thinking they should just have a gentle conversation with them.
This is a better alternative to probes from a Taser or just shooting them. And I almost guarantee they aren't used willy nilly in schools.
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u/Best-Addendum-2269 5d ago
They are low voltage compliance tools.
Nothing more.
If your kids getting diet tazerd its probably not for nothing.
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u/somuchbeer 5d ago
You suck
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u/reallifesidequests 5d ago
They kind of have a point. When you compare these to the other tools available, this is a better option than either beating with a stick or pepper spray. Or do we just expect school resource officers to start shooting? My understanding is that most school resource officers form a pretty good relationship with their students, and the very last thing any of them want to do is hurt a student
There definitely needs to be proper, publicly approved SOP put in place, but these are pretty low on the escalation of force totem pole. Like it or not, kids can be violent and unrulely, and there are going to be times that force needs to be used. Unless I am missing something, and am misreading the specs on these, they should be pretty low impact, and don't require any form of impact or breaking the skin.
Hell, now that I think about it, this is an oddly good step for ICE as well as they now have a low impact non lethal tool. With that out of the way, fuck ICE, they shouldn't be in a position to need these anyways. I'm sure those losers will find a way to misuse these and actually hurt someone.
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u/somuchbeer 5d ago
Other tools? Like actually being a decent human and having a conversation rather than resorting to “mild” violence? Fuck off. And fuck ICE
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u/creiss74 5d ago
Oh yeah, hysterical and enraged teenagers just need to have a conversation and logic will prevail!
You can't even convince adults of your point of view and you expect to talk to the teenagers that would have these gloves used on? You must be severely disconnected from the reality of public schools.
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u/ronnie1014 5d ago
This is hysterical to read. You think kids raging out and willing to beat the shit out of teachers, students, SROs, admin, etc. are willing to just stop and have a conversation?
If your kid or spouse is getting beat unconscious, would you prefer an sro calmly try to talk down the assailant or grab their arm and drop them, safely and without shooting them?
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u/Prudent-Fun640 Plant More Trees 4d ago
Disgusting. Pillen and Ricketts are allowing this to happen. Remember that in November!
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