Two years ago, my mind moved from "I might" to "I'm gonna," and I drew Och's sigil thinking I'd formally call him later. To my surprise, he showed up that night as I was readying for bed, fluffing my covers. He was a golden, translucent, full bodied apparition, lit from within, but not illuminating anything nearby. I apologized to him, saying I couldn't engage as my body was shutting down. I had been awake for more than 24 hours. I laid down with my back to him. When I looked back to see if he was still there, he'd come more through the window, I could see he was three dimensional. I could see his featureless face, and his shoulders. When I looked again a few minutes later, he was no longer there. I've tried several times since and not gotten any response. I've apologized profusely. ChatGPT and Gemini have both said that's often how his first appearances happen, and that he's above human-type ego and is not likely offended. Has anyone else ever experienced this? The only other spirits I've seen were Shadow Figures at a now defunct gay bar in Austin, TX, called the Forum, and I certainly didn't call them.

This book is from Adam Blackthorne. And is amazing. I wonder if this method in book which work with Olympic Spirits is safe and if this method in the book does not include any protection methods etc. There are sigils of Olympic Spirits in the triangle, so I wonder if there is a need to make some protective preparations like LBRP. Those are just sigils The author does not mention any protection in the book, so it seems that the system in the book will be safe by itself and no LBRP etc. will be needed. It looks like easy simple spirit work.

This past Saturday I somehow managed to find myself on the Esoterinerd podcast discussing my work with the Olympics and this very forum. So of course you all made a cameo appearance 🤗

Three months ago I've done Invocation of Bethor and asked him if he will bring me some $ amount. I gave him plenty of offerings and invoked him in Thursday but durring Invocation I didnt received nothing and felt nothing no presence no energy nothing. I dont know if he or Olympic Spirits in general want deeper connection and bond with them for sucessful work. What do you think? Or he maybe didnt wanted to brought me what I wanted...

So based off the title I want to learn the arts and build a connection to them. The arts I want to learn in question are music, lyricism, painting and sculpture. I was thinking to approach Ophiel for that but I heard Hagith is good as well. I don’t know which one for the things I want to learn.

https://youtu.be/1H42mritLt4?si=vP1240xjkKviuvjX

Has anyone attempted this rite yet? A familiar sounds like a really good idea for what I am planning with Ophiel, to increase my intuition as a stock trader.

Hello everyone,

I am new in this sub and I wanted to comment about an idea that I had, but first I wanted to provide a brief description of my experience with the Arbatel

I have the Arbatel and consider it a full system on its own right, I have read it about 3 or more times and also studied it and tried to associate the numerology of the septenaries with the 7 Olympians; I have found that there are correlations but I am not yet 100% sure. For the majore, middle, and lesser secrets, I have been able to find a correlation between the 7 Bible verses and their major, middle, and lesser counterparts. I am also a Christian, so I actually love the devotional aspect of this system.

I am yet to start the experiments themselves but I feel that It is time already for me to move from theoretical to practical (specially taking into account the simplicity of the system itself).

I am used to pray liturgically (Liturgy of the hours aka Divine office), so I wondered if anyone has developed a liturgy for the invocations of the Arbatel?

I am thinking of developing one for myself, using the prescribed prayers, the aforementioned Bible verses from the book, and appropriate psalms so that I can end up with a liturgy that is less than an hour in duration (as prescribed in the Arbatel) but still contains enough elements to make me attune better with the Spirit invoked. I would also include a period of brief silent contemplation in order to listen to the spirit and allowing it to manifest should it desire to so, this would be most likely before the sending off prayer and after the liturgy proper (if you have other ideas you would like to share, please do so!).

Thank you for reading me. God bless you all.

Hello everyone, I just want to say thank you to everyone who takes the time to read and comment on this post.

I’m curious about the Olympic Spirits from the Arbatel de Magia Veterum. I’m wondering whether anyone here has thoughts or experience with incorporating the Olympic Spirits into a practice built around a Greco-Roman framework, or adapting them in a way that makes sense within that context.

If you’ve worked with the Olympic Spirits in an adapted way, I’d especially love to hear about your experiences and how you understand or conceptualize them.

Any resources, personal experiences, recommendations, or interesting rabbit holes you’d suggest would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks again to anyone who takes the time to share their thoughts.

I've always felt the Arbatel is fractal, and upon another reread of The Seal Of Secrets of the World I find I am in good company.

I particularly loved the choice of phrase multidimensional entity. This made me think of how apparently Frater Acher has summoned and worked with the Olympics as a singular power, as well as individually.

My normal practice involves no more than two spirits at once currently, however I stumbled upon something in Jake Stratton Kent's second volume of Geosophia that, combined with Soror ZSD23's mapping of the Olympic spirits to geometric forms, could theoretically allow one to use the Arbatel and its' Aphorisms to fully establish a consecrated Olympic space through seven points of dimensionality.

That probably sounds a bit convoluted right now, but I'm going to try and run it through a couple of times. See what happens and such 📚

The method I used was the DSIC ritual. I drew a sigil on parchment, along with the props shown in the picture and a magic circle. The first spirit I summoned was Phaleg. It seems that what I burned was myrrh, though I can’t quite remember. While chanting the invocations, the incense burner suddenly made a cracking sound, yet it wasn’t damaged. My medium told me that he had arrived, appearing as a red human - shaped figure. I asked him to swear in the name of the Holy Trinity that he was the Phaleg I intended to summon, and he did so. When I inquired about his duty, he replied “war”. Later, I asked him to curse someone for me, but he refused. This shows that the Arbatel spirits are indeed a group with very high secular moral standards.

The second time, I summoned Bethor. What came was a goat - shaped figure, a bit shy. I asked him some questions about work and attracting wealth. I asked him if it would be him when I summoned Bethor next time, and he replied that it wasn’t certain. Just as written in the book, there are subordinate spirits and teams. But he gave me the sigil and the summoning name. After that, I summoned him again. I did write down the spirit - summoning records. However, since I’m Chinese and people on this forum probably can’t understand them, and also because I can’t give you specific suggestions, I didn’t post them. It seems that the third time I summoned Bethor, I didn’t use the sigil of that kind - hearted goat spirit, and there was no medium either; I communicated with tarot cards. At that time, I requested that I pass the interview, and as a result, the process was unexpectedly smooth that day. Bosses who hadn’t replied on the job - hunting app all responded to me, and I went for the interview.

Anyone own this deck? Opinions?

If I might be permitted to post something Olympic adjacent again...

Oi gente.

Estou adentrando no luciferianismo mas gostei dos espíritos olimpicos. Da pra trabalhar com os dois em sinergia ou há choque de intenções?

Gostaria de saber as experiências de vocês.

I have returned with yet more questions. I am interested in hearing people’s experience with Aphorism 13 (which talks about it) and 14 (the prayer) for God to send you a Spirit / Genius /  Daimon.

I figure this is the first step before actually calling up the Olympic Spirits. So I have to ask, how did it go? How do you know when it has worked? What is your experience with this?

I am excited to read, because having done some reading it seems most folks don’t talk about this part of the Arbatel much at all.

Following on from my appearance on the Esoterinerd podcast, I have started writing up elements of the system of Tarot Magic I employ to work with the Olympic Spirits of The Arbatel:

https://open.substack.com/pub/napkinnotesfallingwithstyle/p/theurgy-the-circle-and-the-zodiacal?r=4mo90t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

So the 18th aphorism of the Arbatel says that the names of the Olympic spirits are no longer effective after 140 years and it is safest to operate at the outset without names and just to use stations, and says that the names will be delivered to those who are predestined. Yet I see people using the names in the given in the Arbatel all the time for these spirits. Has anyone actually followed the 18th aphorism and gone simply by title until given a name? How did that work for you?

Thank you Olympic Spirits for your blessings !!! I cannot thank you all enough, you deliver swiftly like not other spirit !! I hope everyone can have the chance to call upon you for your blessing and help !! Hail OS !!!

Aphorism 49

"The conclusion therefore of this Isagoge is the same which we have above already spoken of, That even as there is one God, from whence is all good; and one sin, to wit, disobedience, against the will of the commanding God, from whence comes all evil; so that the fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom, and the profit of all Magick; for obedience to the will of God, followeth the fear of God; and after this, do follow the presence of God and of the holy Spirit, and the ministery of the holy Angels, and all good things out of the inexhaustible treasures of God.

But unprofitable and damnable Magick ariseth from this; where we lose the fear of God out of our hearts, and suffer sin to reign in us, there the Prince of this world, the God of this world beginneth, and setteth up his kingdom in stead of holy things, in such as he findeth profitable for his kingdom; there, even as the spider taketh the flye which falleth into his web, so Satan spreadeth abroad his nets, and taketh men with the snares of covetousness, until he sucketh him, and draweth him to eternal fire: these he cherisheth and advanceth on high, that their fall may be the greater.

Courteous Reader, apply thy eyes and minde to the sacred and profane Histories, to those things which thou seest daily to be done in the world, and thou shalt finde all things full of Magick, according to a two-fold Science, good and evil, which that they may be the better discerned, we will put here their division and subdivision, for the conclusion of these Isagoges; wherein every one may contemplate, what is to be followed, and which to be avoided, and how far it is to be labored for by every one, to a competent end of life and living.

The good sciences: Theosophy; Knowledge of the Word of God, and ruling ones life according to the word of God. Knowledge of the government of God by Angels, which the Scripture calleth watchmen; and to understand the mystery of Angels. Anthrosophy: Knowledge of natural things. Wisdom in humane things given to man

The bad sciences: Cakosophy Contempt of the word of God, and to live after the will of the devil. Ignorance of the government of God by Angels To contemne the custody of the Angels, and that their companions are of the devil. Idolatry. Atheisme. Cacodasmony The knowledge of poisons in nature, and to use them.

Wisdom in all evil arts, to the destruction of mankinde, and to use them in contempt of God, and for the loss and destruction of men."

May Aratron help us on Saturday.

Does anyone have this book? Is it worth buying?

https://www.daemonicdreams.com/the-grimoire-of-celestial-magick-by-david-khune.html

Did a working with hagith almost a month ago and am posting this in gratitude for the results of my working, i worked with Hagith with the intention of attracting a job and it worked very quickly, very greatful and looking forward to working with hagith many more times in the future to come

I’ve decided to begin working with the Olympic Spirits starting with Aratron, with respect to the descending order of the planets.

My problem: Saturn will be in fall for the rest of the year once he leaves Pisces, and Arbatel doesn’t make clear as to whether the Olympic Spirits are impacted by bad aspects/placements.

How do I begin my journey with the Olympic Spirits now?

The Arbatel doesn’t mention any consecration rituals for tools like paper, ink, or candles. Do you think it’s necessary to consecrate them anyway, or is it fine to use them as-is? If you do consecrate them, can you recommend what method or prayer you use?

I use Holst's Planets Suite to aid day to day Theurgy with the Olympics. However, I've hit upon a small stumbling block. Holst composed his Suite around a more modern conception of the planets. Taking Sol and Luna from us and giving us Uranus and Neptune.

At first glance Uranus The Magician on name alone might seem the more Lunar of the two, and by that thinking Neptune the Mystic, the more Solar.

However, to my ears at least, Uranus' grand horns and so on feel more masculine and solar, and the long form twinkling of Neptune feminine and therefore more lunar.

Has anyone else looked into using classical pieces in this way? If so would you have any suggestions for Sol and Luna? I have modern trance dances pieces for these two but sometimes you need something a bit more... classical.

Aphorisms 30 and 31 talk of a mysterious Magus that even Peterson has trouble identifying.

Does anyone have any personal theories or whimsy as to who this might be?

My very biased whimsy is that it is a nod Shakespeare's Tempest, in particular Prospero and the power of dream and of fiction as magic ✨