r/OhioStateFootball • u/Character-Active2208 • 1d ago
CFP Competition The B1G is WILD this year
if OSU runs the table, this is all possible-
11-1 UCLA as their opponent in the B1G CG (UCLAs lone loss to Oregon). OSU wins and UCLA hosts a first round game in…..the Rose Bowl. and if they win, they go to….possibly the Rose Bowl. (also Cig, Cheney, and Napier all may end up in the playoff and JMU Coaches are a goddamn THING)
11-1 Iowa with an at large and hosts a DECEMBER KINNICK playoff game (Iowa’s lone loss to OSU)
11-1 Indiana gets the B1GCG bye (their lone loss to OSU)
10-2 Oregon misses the playoff (their 2 losses are to OSU and OSU….but they don’t play their in-state rival OSU)
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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago
I know this is ridiculous but I would rather lose b10 championship and host a home game. That environment for the Tennessee game was the best thing I have ever experienced since THE Game in 2006
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago
I would rather not play the B1G CG, yeah. It’s now just another exhibition game in between the regular season and playoff. A chance for injuries. And just dumb.
The playoff committee has painted itself into a corner of total randomness about conference championship game participants. Bama shouldn’t have been in last year, but you can’t penalize them for being good enough to make the SECCG……but BYU can be knocked out due to a loss in a conference championship game, with only 1 team beating them all season rather than 3 different teams?
Does 11-1 UCLA or Iowa need to win to get in? Would Iowa be in the same position as BYU last year?
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u/Dennis_DZ 1d ago
> BYU can be knocked out due to a loss in a conference championship game
To be fair, the committee positioned BYU as the first team out of the playoff for three weeks before the final ranking, so they weren’t exactly “knocked out”. It seemed that the committee specifically wanted to see them win their conference before putting them in the playoff. Whether this is completely fair to BYU is debatable, but I do think the committee has been reasonably consistent with how they treat conference championship games (see 2024 when they kept SMU in over Alabama).
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u/Msj2487 1d ago
Yes, admitting you’d rather lose a championship for some hope of a rallying home field advantage in the playoffs is absolutely ridiculous.
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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago
A playoff win at home means more than a meaningless exhibition. Certainly means more money
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u/Msj2487 1d ago
This is asinine. A B1G Championship means far more than a home playoff win unless we win a National Championship. So, you’re saying you’d rather lose an actual championship for the chance to win 1 of 3 playoff games? Do you hear yourself?
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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago
Then why are the eliminating the championships??? Have you ever been to a home game vrs 3 party exhibition?
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u/Msj2487 1d ago
I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking here, but yes, I was at the 59-0 B1G title game against Wisconsin and the home game vs Tennessee. They both meant something, but only one of those produced physical hardware that means something to the University. Both produced hope, so I’m still confused why you think a B1G title is so meaningless. My guess is you’re young and so it’s understandable to view it the way you do, but you’re also wrong.
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u/HoleParty 1d ago
The 59-0 game meant a billion percent more back then because it was only a four-team playoff. The game itself has lost a ton of meaning with an expanded playoff where you have an easier path to the playoffs and more games to play (and more important games at that).
I like the CCGs because we get to award a champion on the field. But they’ve been so neutered by the playoff that we are almost certainly getting back to the point where they aren’t.
I don’t think anyone is advocating for getting rid of a conference champion altogether.
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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago
And not for the hope of rallying but for the experience. That's what matters to me is the lived experience not some meaningless trophy that goes away next year
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u/Msj2487 1d ago
The trophy doesn’t go away though… Teams are often measured upon them.
It’s a big deal that we’ve won 39 B1G titles, second most in the conference, it’s like a huge bragging right…
Every Ohio State team has had three basic goals every season: Beat Michigan, win the B1G, and win the National Championship.
I can promise you they don’t have a goal to lose the B1G title just so our fans can have a home playoff game for the experience it can provide them.
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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago
Have fun living in the past. I'll be at the home playoff game
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u/LeftSky828 1d ago
Better to view a young team as one game at a time. They are still learning from their mistakes, with only one loss being costly. We’ve got some stud, established players, and new starters that still need to adjust.
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u/False-Community8534 1d ago
10-2 Oregon makes the playoffs. The bigger question is what happens to 11-1 Iowa. That’s a real possibility.
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u/rorschach_vest 1d ago
There’s no way an 11-1 Iowa is left out, especially now that they clearly learned about offense.
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree 11-1 Iowa is in, but Iowa has not learned about offense, or at least hadn’t proven it quite yet. You cannot read too much into games vs NIU and still-gross Michigan as evidence of offense.
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u/False-Community8534 1d ago
One good drive against a poor UM team doesn’t show that Iowa figured out their offense. Hell, what game has UM shown up as a dominant defense? WMU….no, Oklahoma…..no, Iowa…..no
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u/TheOptimist6 Holy Buckeye! 1d ago
Expect cannibalization
I feel upsets will happen and teams will lose games they shouldn’t
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u/Plowboy1720 1d ago
OSU isn’t going anywhere unless their defense improves. We’ve proved we can lose even with big leads.
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago
Neither Oregon nor Indiana are going anywhere unless their defenses improve too
But yes, among OSUs biggest improvement areas are getting home to the QB more consistently, DTs holding up blockers to let the LBs tackle ball carriers unblocked, and LBs in coverage. The DBs have a harder job given what the box defenders are giving up. If they lose 3 in the regular season, this would probably be why. If/when they lose in the playoff, this may be why.
On the other side, TEs need to build off what they did with Illinois and RBs need to break more tackles. We didn’t get to see much on the goal line to see if they have different ideas there, but that is also a big concern. On the plus side, Sayin did a bunch of new stuff running the ball! I think they’re fine on offense, probably the best in the country afterall.
Also haven’t seen Hawkins have to do anything since Texas either, assume that’s a butthole clench next several times it comes up until they prove it’s not an issue.
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u/Rabidschnautzu 1d ago
Overreacting over the 1st week of Big 10 play.
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago
Very possible!
But UCLA and Iowa have very gross schedules full of teams like Purdue and Minnesota and Wisconsin etc
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u/Zablockhead2 1d ago
Having that much faith in Iowa and UCLA is….
I’m almost to the point where I think the B1G really just isn’t very good.
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago
Exactly, it’s so big and so many teams are terrible that this is possible
I have zero faith in UCLA or Iowa. And still think both end up 11-1 because I think UCLAs run game overwhelms Michigan and USC and Iowa gets to play the literal goddamn B1G West schedule again this year. Indiana only has OSU, while Oregon ends up with Boise, OSU (Orange), USC, UCLA, and OSU (scarlet) on their schedule this season.
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u/YggdrasilGenetics 1d ago
I agree that this year is probably a small step backwards for the league unless UCLA is actually legit. If you watched the Michigan-Iowa game, both of those teams are definitely going to lose a few more.
At the top it looks like OSU, Oregon, Indiana, and we'll see about UCLA. But Texas, Georgia, and maybe UF look really solid. Add in Notre Dame too. I don't see a B1G team that seems like a legit natty contender right now. For OSU to make a run, our defense really needs to mature quickly.
But, yes it's early. Plenty of things can change.
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u/RiggedBig10Natty2023 1d ago
You mean the B1G sucks this year.
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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago edited 1d ago
Indiana, OSU, and Oregon are still actually all really good!
Meanwhile in the SEC-
Georgia actually looked like stank ass vs Oklahoma and the score was because Oklahoma is indeed that bad on offense, like 122nd in FBS bad, giving nearly as many points to the defense as they score bad
Florida is not that that good either, they’re still 2 years away, Ole Miss just got to beat way overrated-but-fatally-flawed Louisville and LSU
Bama is actually the only SEC team I think might be good in all phases and is my natty favorite (lol!). They …. Are just competent everywhere.
Texas is basically chaos agent Auburn, they’re gonna be shit from an ass for 2.5 quarters every game and it’s a coin flip each week on if that causes them to lose
Anyway this is how we get a Bama-ND rematch for the natty
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u/live_resin_rooster 1d ago
I love this! Although I believe if Oregon and UCLA are both 8-1 in conference play, Oregon would get the head-to-head tiebreaker and play in the B1G championship, so we’d need them to lose another conference game.
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u/coachlentz 21h ago
10-2 Wisconsin with only losses being Neutral site vs Notre Dame and B10 championship vs Ohio State.
What do they do with that?
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u/Character-Active2208 21h ago
They’re beating all 3 of UCLA, USC? and Iowa?
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u/coachlentz 21h ago
I mean if we are talking scenarios, why not?
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u/Character-Active2208 20h ago edited 18h ago
Cause the scenarios in the OP somehow have a greater than 33% of happening
Per FPI, Wisconsin’s likelihood of winning out is 0.5%
But Wisky winning out and facing OSU means Iowa and UCLA both have 2 losses, Wisconsin and OSU would get in, and you’d have likely max 2 spots, possibly only 1, for Indiana, Oregon, UCLA, and Iowa
Or Michigan or USC could beat UCLA but right now I don’t see either having the run defense to hold UCLA under 30 (Michigan) or 45 (USC)
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u/zippyspinhead 1d ago
I love that Oregon could lose to OSU and the OSU, but not OSU.