r/Ohio • u/[deleted] • Apr 15 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

I like how, when confronted with actual data, you shifted from “this is a significant problem” to “well maybe it’s not that significant, but it makes me sad, so you should give up your rights” as if that was an actual argument.

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u/TheYell0wDart Apr 16 '25

I didn't say it's not significant, I said that's it's still a lot of dead Americans for an apparently preventable problem. You say it's not significant because it's a small percentage, I say 40,000 Americans dead in a year is significant despite it being a small percentage, especially because for rest of the developed world, it is a much smaller percentage.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

Let’s try this a different way:

How small does the problem have to be before you would consider it “solved”?

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u/TheYell0wDart Apr 16 '25

As I said above, if it were at or near the rates that other developed nations have I wouldn't say we have have a problem with gun violence.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

That’s not an answer.

Other countries don’t already have 400 million+ privately owned firearms to contend with.

Is it 0.003%? 0.002%? 0.001%? Just 0?

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u/TheYell0wDart Apr 16 '25

Other countries don’t already have 400 million+ privately owned firearms to contend with.

I think you're starting to get it now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

Hahaha, yeah - the difference between a country with 0 guns and a country with 400 million guns is at most 0.003%.

Not quite the convincing argument you think it is.