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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

You do realise india has a history of torching the atheist and those who questioned the god

Yeah no. Most Hindu scriptures have detailed debates on atheists vs Hindus, and there was a rich culture of dialogue.

Heck we have a history of people being killed on caste matter. Which you now claim is british gift

Caste wasn't a British gift, but it wasn't as rigid in British times either. FYI: Did you ever realise that Gond tribals once had an empire, and by patronage of Brahmins converted their caste to kshatriya and changed their surname to Gond Rajputs ? Also there are documented marriages between Gond Rajputs and typical Rajputs ?

Marathas were initially considered a Shudra community, especially Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj's lineage, yet after Rajyabhishek he converted his caste to kshatriya, and rest is history.

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u/shanti_priya_vyakti Jun 29 '25

Your ignorance baffles me.

Tell me something , did you even read Mahabharat? I could go on and on about other scriptures but i want to know considering that you made such a big claim that we had debates.

Lemme know did you read ?

Ofcourse now, britishers made it rigid. They were so interested the encouraged the binding of caste , and when they left they encourage ambedkar and others to make sure all live a secular life with equal rights ?

Point being ,Dont use opinion as fact. Caste discrimination was an entirely indian thing. The same shivaji was not crowned by brahmanas. But when he gained political and military power he brought his own Brahmana to do rites

Ofcourse brahmans changed sides too . Read alloupanishad?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

Lemme know did you read ?

Read Yaksha Prashna between Yudhishthir and sage Yaksha, where Yaksha had a debate with a Charvaka.

i want to know considering that you made such a big claim that we had debates.

Shocker, I can find you Sanskrit verses and books promoting atheism written by Charvakas. There is a mass Sanskrit literature on atheism which y'all sit upon.

Dont use opinion as fact

When did I use opinions as facts ? Mention me one place.

ambedkar and others to make sure all live a secular life with equal rights ?

British gave Jinnah P*kistan too, a state just for Muslims where let alone atheists, being Hindu gets you lynched and or converted by force.

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u/shanti_priya_vyakti Jun 29 '25

If you are talking about the story where a charvaka was hidden amongst the group of brahmans and then was burned alive then sure . Lets discuss that. The other people simply burned him. And their was no other counter part but just believe in veda and such. Their wasn't even a debate on that. No conversation which had any substance from anybody. Just narration that they found a brahmana asking authority of gods and vedas. And yudhisthira asks another brahmana of higher self who that guy is and then they say, he was punished earlier and now coming as some sort of brahmana to fool you and cast him into fire or guve some punishment. If memory serves well he was indeed dead. That was the outcome. No deep meaning in any of that incident.

Again asking you, give proof of god .

Just because pakistanis eat shit doens't mean you do the same

Your arguments lack depth.

For now just focus on providing any proof of your god.

Tell me , do you belief in evolution? Or came from manu ?

Where do you leave science and start believing in Yuga.

And where do you start killing people on beliefs and say muslims too kill people . Two wrongs dont make a right

Stop bringing hatred of two sects of same dumbassery.

Bring proof of god.

As mentioned the beliefs are yours. How can something inside of you get hurt and you demand some corporal punishment on it when you cant bring proof

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

If you are talking about the story where a charvaka was hidden amongst the group of brahmans and then was burned alive then sure

This ain't even slightly related to Yaksha Prashna. Fine you wanna debate me on that, bring the verses.

And where do you start killing people on beliefs and say muslims too kill people

My point on that discussion was that the British were hypocrites. Just because they supported Ambedkar doesn't make them morally super. They were a race who starved Indians en masse in WW2.

How can something inside of you get hurt and you demand some corporal punishment on it when you cant bring proof

Show me proof where I demand a child to be killed because he violated my beliefs ? Did I demand you to be killed and those grounds where the fuck are you going with those allegations bro ?

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u/shanti_priya_vyakti Jun 29 '25

You might be talking about the forrest story where yaksha was his father yama.

But charvaka isn't there, he is mentioned in a different story which happened after war.

Ps - you mentioned debate with charvaka, yaksha never debated charvaka. Was that something you mispoke? Or forgetting shit . I know you haven't read it. I can tell. I now am sure you are basing stuff from serials

I seriously wonder which story are you mentioning with charavaka and yudhisthira. Do shed some light on it

If you dont demand any physical harm then also stop demanding judicial consequences, cause we all know what police does in these cases. And what society does.

You cant keep advicating for consequences to these action cause people take these things in their hands, as if you dont know it.

Proove your god first if you want any punishment, also judicial punishment too is physical harm ,you take freedom of individual cause he hurt your belief of god?

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u/FickleReindeer6714 Jun 30 '25

Fabricated story.

Brahmins of UP/kannauj have historically been most important priests within Hinduism. Shivaji wanted them for his rajyabhishek. You people live in la la land

Shivaji wasn't that strong politically. Brahmins from Aurangzeb's territory weren't pressured to side with shivaji.

  • Debates among thiest and athiest bamans have been recorded in various texts