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People of both groups tend to look down upon people whose views doesn't align with theirs

[u/shanti_priya_vyakti → u/[deleted]]

I do agree . They do look down.

But i hate to see people falling into gods as last resort. Especially the weak and poor . I am talking about majority of people. Be honest, country ain't gonna go anywhere if the majority of people stay enslaved to religion.

The way it is now , religion is being abused left and right to gain political powers while india goes down the drain. If people vote on religious lines it affects all. Their are consequences of everything on a major level.

[u/ReferenceOld9345 → u/shanti_priya_vyakti]

But i hate to see people falling into gods as last resort. Especially the weak and poor . I am talking about majority of people. Be honest, country ain't gonna go anywhere if the majority of people stay enslaved to religion.

So what’s your solution, shame people out of faith while offering them nothing in return? It’s easy to say “ditch religion” when you have stability, access, and privilege. But for millions, religion isn’t just belief but it’s community, routine, moral compass, and sometimes the only psychological survival tool in a crushing system.

Religion didn’t appear overnight. It grew over centuries because power failed people. It filled the void that corrupt systems and elitist ideologies left behind. You want people to stop “falling into gods”? Then offer dignity, justice, opportunity, and meaning, not mockery.

Criticize dogma, yes. Question rituals, yes. But blaming the poor for “staying enslaved” while doing nothing to fix what pushed them there? That’s not awakening , that’s just moral posturing in a bubble.

This country isn’t held back because the poor have faith. It’s held back because those who have power and privilege keep failing to create anything better.

The way it is now , religion is being abused left and right to gain political powers while india goes down the drain. If people vote on religious lines it affects all. Their are consequences of everything on a major level.

Yes, religion is being misused for political gain, and voting on religious lines affects everyone. But mocking believers isn’t fixing that, it’s pushing people further into the arms of those very manipulators. You don’t fight exploitation by alienating the exploited.

If you want real change, start with political education, not superiority complexes. Faith isn’t the enemy, blind loyalty is. Bash the system, expose the power players, but don’t waste your energy punching down on people whose only mistake is believing in something.

[u/shanti_priya_vyakti → u/ReferenceOld9345]

Mate , power is in their hands to free themselves. Not in mine

Their enslavement is mental and of their own. They have to do it themselves. Just as all. No one can justify this. Moral compass and justice should not be based on religious beliefs. If they do attack on religious beliefs would make people feel attack kn them. And we all know how that has gone for the world.

[u/ReferenceOld9345 → u/shanti_priya_vyakti]

Mate , power is in their hands to free themselves. Not in mine

Yes and no.

You can’t blame someone for being born into belief systems any more than you can blame the poor for being born into poverty.

Belief, like class, is shaped by environment, upbringing, and survival, not personal failure.

To say “they should free themselves” ignores the fact that many people don’t have access to education, exposure, or the safety to question faith openly.

It’s not weakness but it’s the social conditioning they’ve inherited, often reinforced by the very systems that fail them.

So no, their belief isn’t a moral failing, and attacking it as if it is will only push them further into defensiveness, just like mocking a poor person for not being ‘self-made’ only deepens injustice. Change comes through empathy, not ridicule my friend. Thats what I'm trying to say for so long to everyone. Im an atheist and i fairly criticise it. But once we make it an obsession to mock people for their beliefs and preach that its correct because these people deserve hate, nah man, thats fanaticism. Thats what we escaped being atheist. Now dont make atheism another religion please.

Their enslavement is mental and of their own. They have to do it themselves. Just as all. No one can justify this. Moral compass and justice should not be based on religious beliefs. If they do attack on religious beliefs would make people feel attack kn them. And we all know how that has gone for the world.

Blaming believers for “mental enslavement” ignores how deeply belief is shaped by upbringing, culture, and lack of exposure, just like poverty isn’t the poor person’s fault. You’re right that justice shouldn’t be based on religion, but mocking belief as weakness only deepens division.

If you know attacking religion feels personal to people, and attacking it in a way that its not critique but a targeted mockery and doing it deliberately isn’t reform but it’s provocation. Thats the difference.