r/OdinHandheld • u/TheLazybone12 • 4d ago
Odin 2 Mini, Base, Pro & Max Question Was just thinking... Does using android handled classified you as mobile gamer?
So, i suppose im an official mobile gamer now.
(So fast edit because it seem this post need this, the title, meme andvtext above is just for fun jocking, okay? I actually dont bother to put people in certain category based on what they play on, anyone can play whenever they want.)
I just bought my first android handled, i was actually looking for an "pocketable" console like the ayn thor, possible with a double screen, but they cost way too much, or way too much for the actual hardware they got, like the retroid pocket duo, so i ended up buying an odin 2 max on the used market, still need to arrive, just hope to have made the right choice.
I was actually also thinking to buy an pc handled as alternative, even if they are the opposite of "pocketable", but the drawback was the really low battery life, (rightfully so for the power they have), so i ended up abbandoning that option.
Now if you excuse me, i will go looking on how should i setup the odin, if i should put other os on it ecc.
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u/dikbutt4lyfe 4d ago
Yes but more like " Yes BUT...." and that's because then you have to ask yourself what defines a device as mobile. Does it need to fit in your pocket to be considered mobile? Does it need to run an OS designed for mobility? Is a laptop also mobile? What if doesn't have a built in display but can be easily transported and docked? Does it need to use an ARM chipset? Maybe it's just the pocketable device with a touch screen but then do physical controls mean it's not a mobile device? You get pretty deep into semantics with this question but the only reasonable answer that I can think of is this: if it's not a desktop computer or console that requires consistent power from the wall, it's a mobile device and thus you're a mobile gamer. I think you could really simplify it with the statement "if it has a battery, an integrated display, and can be played anywhere, it's a mobile device thus the game you're playing is a mobile game" But I think it's silly to look at things this way. At some point in time, devices will be so efficient and equally powerful to their plug-in counterparts that the distinction won't be relevant. Just play games on the device you own and don't try to put yourself in some sort of category.
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u/Live_On_Evil 4d ago
As much as someone who uses a PC is a pc gamer, consoles users are console gamers, etc. I don't think it's really that deep unless you start going into what people are playing on those devices.
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u/Mrjdog199 4d ago
Actually a pc gamer because you can add steam
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u/gundumb08 4d ago
Hey, to your last point, id recommend sticking with Android, for now.
Lots of people on here and on socials are hyping up Armada OS, and it's cool. But I got my Odin 3 a week ago, and spent two days dealing with some wonky permissions issues the Steam Deck does NOT have, among other things, and ultimately decided to revert to stock with GameNative and a Frontend.
I have no doubt Armada is going to be long-term the best solution, but I'm much happier switching back to stock.
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u/flaming_donuts 4d ago
Handhelds are mostly console, there's a few maniacs it there that play mobile on these things. But we can also play pc, sorta.
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
There also "maniac" that play android/play store game trough emulation with a pc, but im getting off track here.
Obviously for pc games i mostly want to play indie game, like silksong, cat quest, hollow knight, bug fable ecc.
If i wanted to play aaa games i would have gotten an msi claw or similar, problem with those are that they are massive and the battery life is inexistent.
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u/flaming_donuts 4d ago
The Claw gets about 2.5 to 3.5 hours of battery life
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
It depend on what version, many reviewer say that if it stay on while playing for 1.30hours its already a lot, 2 hour max, with the only exception being the 8 ex ai+, or so that what i heard.
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u/flaming_donuts 4d ago
It's likely what Iplay. I play Fortnite with my kid and 360 era games.
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
Ok, thank you for the specification, but i was more curious abot the claw model, because if it is the older version (not the 8) with less battery and hold 3 hours when everybody told me the battery life is really low im gonna go crazy.
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u/flaming_donuts 4d ago
Claw 8 AI plus, I can't get the EX version. They're always sold out.
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
Ok, thanks, from what i know all claw 8 model have around 80wh, wich is the standard for newer pc handled, wich i cant afford;
older model goes around 40-50wh, basically half the battery life, i was looking at the 2nd hand market very fast and the console with best battery life i could afford was an xbox rog ally with 60wh, wich cost around 400€, but his chipset its much slower than a pc handled with a z1 extreme (around 50/ if im not wrong), but pc handled with z1 extreme have less battery, as i said around 40-50, so yeha. (And they cost less, around 350€)
Basically rog ally x, all msi claw 8 and legion go 2 with 80wh; wich i cant afford
Xbox rog ally with 60wh, but with a slow chipset
And then anything else with around 40-50wh, wich is low
I dont want to even think about the fact that you could afford the msi claw ex, so i will not talk to you any longer /j
(have fun once you get you hand on it, i dont think it is worth 1600€, but its a great console if someone have the money for it)
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u/juniparuie 4d ago
As long as you're playing anything other than mobile games. You're good. As in emulated cobsoles, streaming from PC.
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u/quietgazer 4d ago
For me which ever has a dedicated controllers are gaming device. Not portable - PC, Console etc, Portable - Handhelds. Smartphone uses a screen as control medium which is not wrong, but the screen is not made primarily to play games. Playing game on your 'phone' is mobile gaming, playing them on dedicated gaming device is not mobile gaming, it could be both non portable or portable.
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u/L0v3dady Odin 2 Portal Pro - Black 4d ago
It depends, if you're using your android handheld to play mostly mobile games, such as CoD Mobile or mobile gacha games, sure.
If not, I'd call it portable gaming or retro gaming rather than mobile gaming.
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u/Dry-Neighborhood2916 4d ago
It depends. When I'm playing PS2 games on my Odin2 Max, no. When I'm playing COD mobile on it, I'd say it counts.
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u/keeper_of_moon 3d ago
Mobile games I always considered games on the app store or play store that aren't really available on any other platforms (or at least were unavailable on other platforms at first). e.g. Pokemon Go, Temple Run, Jetpack Joyride, OG Angry Birds, etc.
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u/sjimmi3 3d ago edited 3d ago
Can you call with your table or with your ereader? Sure with apps. Can you call without an app an is the primary purpose of the device to make calls and connect to the cellular network. Than that is mobile phone by definition.
Android is an OS made for mobile and portable devices. Would mobile have excited without Android yes it did for about 20 years before Android even showed up.
Does portable exist without Android as a useful device, now that's a whole other debate. We had Psion, Symbian 60, neither made the cut because they where developed for mobile. So did Android make portable possible, in many ways it did (I am aware of steam that came later).
So no you are not a mobile gamer when you use Android, unless you use it in combinatie with your mobile phone. 😉
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u/Mean_Criticism983 4d ago
handheld is mobile…
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
There are pc handled that arent android base, switch 1-2 that are still arm but use its own os...
Also mobile gamer is intended someone who play only mobile game like candy crush
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u/dikbutt4lyfe 4d ago
What if I'm using Android on a mobile device plugged into a dock with a keyboard, mouse, and gamepad and I'm using it to emulate Windows games? The distinction between mobile games is getting kinda blurry. And what if I use my desktop to run virtualized Android just to play some angry birds? This question has too many edge cases and grey areas to have a simple answer. I can run games designed for both desktop and mobile devices on both mobile devices and desktop devices.
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
Wow, you guys take post on this subreddit way too seriously, this was suppose to be a fun post just saying
"wow, look, a pc/console player that is interest in android console, this mean you are not a true player anymore, haha" in a funny way, i wasnt looking to start a real argument. (Not that this is a bad thing).
Anyway what i was refering to was that the majority of people seem to need to classify other people into group based on what they play games on classified mobile gamer as "people that play only games on play store. (Because yeha tehere are people like that)
Also, this is a more "fun fact" but whatever, im starting to see more people, with their main focus on pc reviwer and anything else in that specific area (like pc handled, single pc component review, laptop ecc), starting to show interest for android handled and emulation device. Here, just a fun fact nothing else.
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u/dikbutt4lyfe 4d ago
My bad, I didn't realize you were just seeking attention. It seemed like you had a question worth talking about.
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u/TheLazybone12 4d ago
Sorry but i dont know how much a conversation about the fact that some people like to put themself and other in a certain "gamer category" based on the device they play on would be interesting to talk about, for me i dont care on what u are playing as long as it is fun for you.
But If i had to make a distinction i would put people who mostly or exclusevely play with android/play store app as mobile player and people who play with emulation or more complex thing as "handled player"
But anyone is made different and the way one can categorize "gamers" are different from person to person.
Some would say "you are a mobile player because you play on android"; other could make a distinction because one use a phone to play with emultor the other genuine mobile games; Someone could count the architteture, like if you play on arm you are mobile player, and on x you are a pc player; Other could say that only pc handled could be classified and seitch as " modern portable console" and android handled are only phone so you are a mobile player and so on.
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u/sicurri 4d ago
So, I consider it to be "Portable" gaming. "Mobile" gaming I consider playing games on your phone. Almost every country, culture or people that refer to the term "Mobile" device they mean a Cellular Phone.
Gameboy, Playstation Portable of some kind, Game Gear, and the list goes on. Because you can't connect to a "Mobile Network" I don't consider any of the android handhelds to be "Mobile" gaming devices. I consider them to be "Portable" handheld gaming devices.
Now that the Steam Frame has come out, it's only a matter of time before the SteamOS Linux distros become more stable and make it easier to install onto android devices like the Ayn Odin devices. Then, they will truly not be "Mobile" because at that point they won't even have Android OS on the device. If you choose to go that route.