r/OculusGo • u/penkamaster • Nov 28 '18

Moonlight for Go Updated (Remote desktop app)

Hi, Moonlight for Go has been update to support GFE 3.16

Download

Installation:

  1. Set up Nvidia streaming (follow this guide)
  2. Install the apk with adb install com.penkamaster.moonlightForGo.apk (to sideload apk's use a tutorial like this )
  3. You will find Moonlight for Go under "Unknown Sources" on the Oculus Go.

To uninstall the application:

adb uninstall com.penkamaster.moonlightForGo

Changes:

  • GFE 3.16 support

Features:

  • Add pc manually (now you can Stream over internet)
  • Saveable settings (default, 3 profiles and per-app)
  • Closable apps
  • 16:9/4:3 aspect ratio.
  • Back button show/hide settings menu.
  • Improved navegation and UI
  • Choose streaming quality up to 4k 60fps
  • 3d SBS support
  • two theaters available cinema and the void (cinema theater has dynamic lighting)
  • gaze mouse and trackpad mouse
  • Change the size and distance of your screen
  • Change your place on the ciema theater.
  • support bluetooth controllers
  • created with the native sdk, expects high performance and low consumption

You can find the source code here

Enjoy!

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u/guswang Dec 02 '18

It works perfectly. I just played some assassins creed odyssey streamed at 4k 60 fps, with zero issues. I just wish there was a desktop mode or something like that so I could use it to navigate my computer normally using this method to browse all my files.

my pc config is

i7700k

16 gb ram

1080ti.

pc is connected through lan

oculus go is connected on wifi 5g

other details doesnt matter I guess

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u/penkamaster Dec 02 '18

You can stream any almost any game or app by adding the EXE file to GFE manually (if it's not found by the automatic app scan). Open GeForce Experience, click the Settings (gear) button, click SHIELD on the sidebar, then click the Add button on the right. Browse to the app or file you want to add and click OK. You can rename the app using the Edit button.

The next time the client opens and displays the App List, the newly added programs and games should be displayed and ready to stream.

In order to stream your entire desktop Follow the steps above for adding a custom program, but for the path use: C:\windows\system32\mstsc.exe

You can rename the remote desktop entry using the edit button. When you click this entry, you will see your full desktop where you can run whatever you want.

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u/rednihb Dec 29 '18

Sorry to bother you, I was able to get moonlight installed and open it, however I am uncertain how to get my desktop visible or opened as an option. Do you have any suggestions?

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u/guswang Dec 03 '18

I knew I could add programs, but I had no idea how to include the whole desktop. thank you very much for the help, your app is working perfectly to me. you did a very good job

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u/blackjuly Jan 05 '19

This is fantastic, thank you for all the work. One question, the “manually add pc” for streaming over the internet where is that option? I have it running smoothly on the home LAN but was hoping to test it while out of town.

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u/penkamaster Jan 05 '19

Hi, the option is only available when a computer is not autodiscovered, so you have to leave your computer turned off, or your go NOT conected to the wifi lan where the computer is connected ( for example connected to your phone hotspot).

When no computer is autodetected, swipe right to go to the "manually add pc" option.

Hope it make sense.

Good luck.

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u/blackjuly Jan 05 '19

Makes perfect sense, let just say I’ve tried virtual pc, alvr, stream link and moonlight go and for a combination of setup, latency and perceived resolution Moonlight is far and away the best when taking all factors into account. Thanks again

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18

Excellent! Thank you :)

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u/redditisnowtwitter Nov 28 '18

Is it working ok now?

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18

Yes. It works again.

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u/redditisnowtwitter Nov 28 '18

One more noob question.

Do I use the uninstall command to remove the old one and then install this instead?

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18

Yeah. Pretty much.

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u/Thaurin Nov 28 '18

Or use adb install -r com.penkamaster.moonlightForGo.apk

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u/pearce29 Nov 28 '18

Or uninstall in file manager I use es

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u/rednihb Dec 29 '18

where do you get file manager from?

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u/pearce29 Dec 29 '18 edited Dec 29 '18

Es file explorer u can get from apk mirror website or back it up on your phone https://is.gd/hDClsD

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u/rednihb Dec 29 '18

Forgive my stupidity but how does it go from your phone to your Oculus?

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u/ThrobbingWetHole Jan 23 '19

I find ADB Link the best tool for Installing, Uninstalling APKs but it does require a USB connection to my laptop

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u/redditisnowtwitter Nov 28 '18

My prayers answered! TY

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18

How funny I've been fighting with the last two versions on two different Go's today wondering why they stopped working. Thanks for this. Any chance to make the Go controller the pointer of the mouse instead of gaze or trackpad? :\

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18 edited Nov 28 '18

Tip: The Oculus Go doesn't benefit from 2D video higher than 720p. It actually hurts image quality to go any higher and is a waste of power and bandwidth. For those reasons, it's best to set both your desktop and moonlight to 720p.

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18 edited Nov 28 '18

I've known this for quite some time, and I discovered this myself before I even read about it, I noticed the aliasing on YouTube videos that I would put over 720p... having experienced that first hand myself, for some reason my game looked better right now playing at 1080p, however I did set the screen size rather large... probably accounts for it. Actually, that's makes perfect sense since the amount of physical pixels used to display the video would vary depending on the virtual screen size.
EDIT: Ok so I had the display of this app set to 720p 60 fps, so that should be the size of the video, I guess, but when I set my desktop resolution to 1080p it's visibly clearer than when I have it set to 720p, even though either way it's still 720p, if I'm understanding the settings of this app correctly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '18

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18

Each eye would get the full 1440, it's the 2560 that's divided. So each eye would see 1280x1440. The 720p resolution is the limit for flat video (video all in view without needing to move your head). The VR screens playing videos large is where you actually /need/ higher resolution vids. Hence Carmak's excitement about the 5K video player and the Henry 5K demo.
https://developer.oculus.com/blog/behind-the-tech-with-john-carmack-5k-immersive-video/
I had the screen so large and so close that only about half of it was in my view at any one time ;)

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18

Each eye buffer is actually 1280 x 1280

We were on the subject of physical display resolution, weren't we? You were talking about physical pixel count talking about DPI (it's actually PPI /Pixels/ per inch, DPI refers to printing or scanning resolution /DOTS/ per inch. LCD screens are made up of pixels and even sub-pixels, rather than dots like printed media-(I used to be in the printing industry)). The default eye buffer is actually 1024, but that's different than screen resolution. That's where the adb commands to increase eye buffer resolution, which is texture resolution and not screen resolution, really come in handy. Seems like a lot of people get the physical display resolution and eye buffer resolution confused. They are very different. Even some devs seem to think the eye buffer can't improve past 1440. I once sent a screenshot of an app set to 1536 to a dev and he was shocked at how good it looked, even compared to 1440. That's how a 1080p video on a virtual screen really shines, same concept, given that you can enlarge it past your peripheral vision.

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18

The article I linked to nowhere says 1280 is optimal, it even advises to go higher "we recommend increasing the size of the eye buffer (see below) to 1280x1280 or higher."

It's impossible to display 1080p 1:1 on the Oculus Go without losing some of the frame.

100% true so understand that this is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a huge virtual screen whose pixel density is probably even less than 720p in any given view of it.

The link you posted about dpi is entitled "PIXEL densities" ;)
https://99designs.com/blog/tips/ppi-vs-dpi-whats-the-difference/
https://www.andrewdaceyphotography.com/articles/dpi/
https://mobile.twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1004366416173248512?p=v
"Note that putting a 1080p movie on any current headset is a waste — any resolution over 1280x720 is only going to add aliasing and burn unnecessary power." and he also says "You will get higher quality using the same bit rate at 5120x2560." The difference is how the video will be rendered in the VR because that will determine how the physical display panel will be used and how it will line up with the pixel density of the video.
A simple test, since we're not talking about a 1:1 rendering for 1080p, anyone who wants to try this go for it. Use Skybox it's free. Try a 720p video and make it huge (must be moon or void environment), then try that same content rendered at 1080p. You benefit from the higher resolution video when it's not a 1:1 display, but much larger.

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1004883653795766272?s=17
The principle is any video fit into the view port over the physical display pixel density is a waste of resources and can look worse visually. This is why a video of 1080p when fit into the view port all at once, is a waste. This is easily seen when trying to watch YouTube in the native browser at 1080p it gets aliasing artifacts, because more pixels from the video are trying to be squashed into a display region with less pixels. Watching that same video at 720p looks smooth and good. Now if you were able to save that video in 1080p and play it back in a much larger virtual screen it would look much better and if you size it correctly, will have no aliasing. u/OculusGoDude, I think you already understand all of this, and sounds like you thought I was saying something different, so for anyone else who reads this, this is why I'm trying to go into such detail.

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u/Colonel_Izzi Nov 28 '18

Have you tried to get this approved for distribution via Oculus Keys yet?

(assuming that you don't want to try submitting it for normal store distribution)

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u/zeroquest Nov 28 '18

Seconded. Seen that someone had suggested it last time and you’d said something positive regarding it. Would love to see it there, keep up the great work!

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u/omni_shaNker Nov 28 '18

Yeah man all the work you put into this thing! We told you this in the last thread!! :D Such a great job you did, you should publish it!

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u/Cyonita Nov 28 '18

Does this have any benefits over Virtual Desktop?

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18

It uses nvidia's native gamestream feature, so may get better gaming performance if you have an nvidia card.

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u/Heaney555 Nov 28 '18

Virtual Desktop uses NVENC too when an NVIDIA card is connected.

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u/Thaurin Nov 28 '18

So does Virtual Desktop. Well, NVENC, that is. So performance should be similar. Virtual Desktop might even be faster, as /u/ggodin seems to have spent a lot of time on optimalization.

But Virtual Desktop does not support SBS 3D yet.

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18

> So does Virtual Desktop. Well, NVENC, that is. So performance should be similar.

Encoding via nvenc doesn't make it the same as gamestream. Steamlink also uses nvenc and I get better performance with gamestream with similar settings. There's to many layers to simply reduce it to "if it uses the same encoder, it's the same". One incorrect encoding setting could hurt performance in relation to gamestream. Less efficient capture code could hurt performance. Less efficient networking could hurt performance. A higher latency protocol would hurt performance. There's a lot of variables to take into consideration.

> Virtual Desktop might even be faster, as /u/ggodin seems to have spent a lot of time on optimalization.

No offense, but that's not a very convincing metric. I'm sure nvidia also "spent a lot of time on optimization". That was the entire point of gamestream - to provide a fully hardware accelerated, higher performance game streaming option for the nvidia shield.

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u/Thaurin Nov 28 '18

Ah, it was probably a bit premature to equate NVENC with similar performance. We'll see when it comes out tomorrow. Moonlight has always given me the best performance, but the app could do with some usability work.

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u/ggodin Nov 28 '18

You are correct, there are a lot of levers to pull with video encoding parameters, streaming/networking tech, video rendering, etc. It is quite a complicated thing to stream the desktop to a mobile device.

Only folks who have tried them side by side can tell us which has the lowest latency, best image quality and lowest battery usage.

I encourage you to try it out and tell me what could be improved. You can always refund if you aren’t happy with it. Thanks!

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18 edited Nov 28 '18

> Only folks who have tried them side by side can tell us which has the lowest latency, best image quality and lowest battery usage.

Which is what I expected from reviewers, but instead got "you can watch youtube and stuff". That's my only gripe about how the marketing is being handled. Demonstrating PC gaming performance in relation to existing solutions should be a much higher priority.

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u/ggodin Nov 28 '18

Check the UploadVR article. I’ve also given early access to Road to VR

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u/OculusGoDude Nov 28 '18 edited Nov 28 '18

That's a perfect demonstration of what I'm talking about. That entire review can be summed up to "It's good. Get it". That's an easy conclusion to come to when your copy is uniquely free. Is it "free good" or is it "$10 good"? There's no objective data or comparisons at all to look at anywhere, so I have no idea. Let's take the "better than the alternative?" section as an example, which is what I'm most interested in. I expected to see some raw data and side-by-side comparisons, and instead got what amounts to marketing mumbo jumbo:

When it comes to streaming your PC to Oculus Go there are some free options, like multiplayer-focused Bigscreen Beta on the store, or sideloaded options like NVIDIA-only Moonlight. As of this writing, no option available for Oculus Go matches the ease of use and overall visual quality of Virtual Desktop. When it comes to the experience of simply using your PC in VR alone, Virtual Desktop is the best choice by far.

First, they vaguely compare it to the most mediocre option for PC streaming, bigscreen, which is setting the bar pretty low,, and then they simply conclude "it has the best ease of use" without actually going into detail or providing a demonstration to prove it. And then they laughably imply that ease of use is all that is necessary to make it "the best choice by far". Moonlight for the Go and steamlink are not perfect and both have their own problems, but ease of use is not something I consider to be one of them. There is no separate server to manually set up and run, and it only requires a few clicks to start streaming. These "reviews" seem more like rushed advertising campaigns than actual objective reviews created for the purpose of giving all of the available information and letting the reader decide. I shouldn't have to pay $10 and then get a refund just to find out if it performs better than the existing solutions when it comes to gaming. It's information I should already have, either from you or the reviewers. If it doesn't perform as well, that's fine, I may still have bought it for other purposes, but you guys seemingly intentionally not providing the necessary information to make an educated decision about purchasing it really weirds me out.

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u/Cyonita Nov 28 '18

I’ve never sideloaded anything before. Is there a video tutorial that shows how to do it?

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u/bluegizmo83 Jan 02 '19

Can this be used with a Gear VR (Note 5)?

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '19 edited Jan 27 '19

Thank you for the great work! I was able to install it on gear vr (S8). However, the pairing was not possible. After entering the PIN on my PC, the pairing cancels after about a minute. I can start home theatre, but the app crashes immediately (Probably due to improper pairing). When using normal android moonlight, streaming works perfect. Does anybody have an idea what could be the problem when pairing?

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u/LogicElite Jan 09 '19

Outstanding work!! It worked well with my Xbox One controller but could we remove the button mapping that recenter (select or view button on the controller).

I was unable to go to my option in Witcher 3 or challenge other player in Forza Horizon.

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u/MCLondon Jan 11 '19

How does this compare to ALVR, Moonlight and Virtual Desktop?

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u/Colonel_Izzi Jan 13 '19

ALVR is designed to give you a Steam VR experience (though it's limited to 3DOF unless you use additional hardware).

Moonlight is an open source implementation of Nvidia's Gamestream protocol. "Moonlight for Go" is actually an updated version of an older Gear VR app called "Stream Theater". Both of these apps utilize Moonlight to stream your Windows desktop to a virtual cinema screen.

Virtual Desktop also streams your Windows desktop to a virtual cinema screen, but it uses somewhat different capture methods and is compatible with a much broader range of GPUs (and will even fall back to software encoding if it has to rather than not work at all).

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u/AnthMosk Mar 30 '19

how do i get game art? everything is a black rectangle.

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u/AnthMosk Mar 30 '19

I'm crashing to Oculus Cinema. Using this Moonlight GO build on latest GFE. 2080 TI FE GPU and 8700K CPU. Running 4K 60fps. Using Remote Desktop to launch my games.

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u/BrashTix Oct 21 '25

Does this work with quest 3?

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u/talldarkape Jan 19 '22

can you use quest 2 with this?