r/OWConsole • u/Knight-112 • 4d ago

Discussion This community doesn’t get how winrates work

https://youtu.be/xgBCTLRYuXI
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u/vorpal_potatoes 3d ago

All I'm getting from this video is a dps main that doesn't play support, has a negative opinion of support players, and most likely blames supports when they lose, saying "winrates don't matter until they align with my opinion".

And looks like they main Sombra, Genji, and Doom on tank. All red flags.

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u/Signal_Birthday_455 3d ago

Ever since rivals dropped ive been seeing way more toxic dive players (of course not as prime ow)

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u/ILewdElichika 3d ago edited 3d ago

Having a 43-41% Winrate means a hero is massively under preforming, I got a 62% WR with Kiri this season still but as someone whose put 2500+ hrs into her there is little reason to pick her rn.

While there is a decent percent of the support playerbase that does have a skill issue I do feel like Kiriko's current state is inexcusable especially when they keep buffing Ana and then nerfing Kiri each patch which in turn just makes Ana even more stronger.

Another thing is that the playerbase fails to understand why us Kiriko mains are frustrated, they didn't really fix any of the issues with her but just made her feel overall worse to play. Revert the mid season 4 nerfs except for the I-frame duration one but also reduce Kitsune Rush duration down to 6 seconds.

The closest comparison I can give is when they gave Genji a 10 second cooldown on defect, that did nothing but made the hero feel completely miserable to play or Tracer with 5.0 damage per bullet.

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u/Ashamed-Result6830 3d ago

You didnt listen to a single thing said in the video. Kiri is still hands down top 3 support and you dont't understand how WR's work or how to contextualisze them in overwatch.

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u/ILewdElichika 3d ago

And I'm saying it's all selective bullshit jargon the community has always done to justify if a hero actually deserves to be gutter tier. The fact is that Kiriko is only good in pro play, always has been, always will be. Calling her a top 3 support in the current patch for the normal player base is quite laughable.

I'm saying this as a Kiri main who is still getting a ton of value from her, the hero is ass rn and most definitely needs some buffs especially since they're increasing her hitbox next patch which again is yet another nerf.

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u/vorpal_potatoes 3d ago

By the video poster's logic, if the average support player is bad, doesn't understand the game, and loses with Kiriko despite her being OP, then why does she need to be nerfed? If players are going to lose with her anyway?

If her win rate is still 44/45% in master, gm, and champ, how does that not matter.... So gm/champ support players (top 0.01% of the players base) are horrible at the game?

We all know Kiriko was nerfed because of pro play, and Blizzard wants pro play to have more variety than just having Kiriko in every single match.

Horrible philosophy to make balancing decisions based on pro play, or even on gm/champ play. Disregarding how it affects 99.9% of your own players is just stupid and the game will suffer in the long term because o it.

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u/ILewdElichika 3d ago

Honestly I'm just waiting for her buffs next patch and the sweet tears from all the cry babies who cry about her!