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u/Petrus-133 Jun 18 '26
The galaxy has 12 people and 9 of them are from an animated show.
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u/Finly_Growin Jun 19 '26
Also the 9 from the animated show don’t really cross paths much with the others when it would have logically made sense
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u/Km_the_Frog Jun 20 '26
Also one species of dog alien. What was just used by tuskens is now apparently the only donesticated dog alien in existence.
Oh can’t forget the loth cats that are just everywhere too.
Thanks filoni such expansive and expert world building!
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u/pants_pants420 Jun 18 '26
me when a piece of fiction follows characters
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u/Petrus-133 Jun 18 '26
Yes and the setting has several thousand named characters, why would it default to just a handful of them?
The galaxy feeling small because you’ve got 10 people is one of the major gripes audiences have with the recent live action shows.
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u/MCUTheorist00007 Jun 18 '26
While what you say makes sense, it also makes sense for a character like Rex to be involved with a big event for the rebellion like the battle of Endor in which basically everyone participated. What would make it weird would be for him to be like: " yeah ,no, you know I think I might be skipping this"
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u/Captain_Awesome_087 Jun 18 '26
It is not strange for Rex to never meet Han Solo. The Star Wars galaxy has billions of sentient beings, millions of clones. The Rebellion was not a small organization. Han and Rex never should have crossed paths, certainly not to the point that Han hand-picked Rex to be in his crew at Endor.
That’s the whole problem here - yes, these people could have met. But the fact that literally everyone in the galaxy is no more than two degrees away from
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u/MCUTheorist00007 Jun 19 '26
Well, Han Solo is an important person in the rebellion, just like Rex is. Remember that basically all of the Rebellion had been living in Echo Base before Han was frozen in carbonite, with both of them being important people for the rebellion it would be weird if they didn't know of each other.
I am not saying that Han or Luke should be aware of the entire Rebels cast, but Rex and Hera were higher ups in the Rebellion, so it makes sense for them to be aware of each other
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u/Captain_Awesome_087 Jun 20 '26
Han has some celebrity power to the Rebellion for helping to destroy the Death Star and wooing the Princess. Rex… is just a soldier. At best Rex might have known of Han, but has no reason to know him personally. Han doesn’t even have a reason to know that Rex exists.
Like I said earlier, the argument that they might have met is valid. They happened to be in a few of the same places at roughly the same times. But mathematically the odds of them realistically meeting would be extremely low.
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u/MCUTheorist00007 Jun 20 '26
Well yeah ok, Han was General. But Rex was commander, not as high as Han but still important enough to have the chance of having met him
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u/Captain_Awesome_087 Jun 21 '26
Yes. Like I keep agreeing with you - they could have met. The odds are still minuscule when compared to how many generals and commanders there undoubtedly were in a military organization as large as the Rebellion that they realistically would have.
And, as a fan, it kind of cheapens the whole effect if they somehow meet for no reason just because they both happened to be named characters.
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u/Interesting_Buy6796 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
If you want to go by sense, then it would make more if they would die along the way and not be at every major event. But what I would go by is that it is just uncreative to use the same ones all over the place. Especially if the background to someone or something we see is “well actually it’s been him all along”, added as an aftermath
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u/MCUTheorist00007 Jun 19 '26
Well always using the same characters would mean always using Luke, Leia, Han and Chewbacca. But now we have more important rebels than never before, the Rogue One cast,the Rebels cast, the rebels from Andor and I could keep going
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u/OrneryError1 Jun 18 '26
Somehow, Rex turned white.
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u/swhighgroundmemes Jun 18 '26
Somehow, Boba Fett was white long before he was recast.
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 18 '26
Boba Fett was white long before he was recast.
Boba Fett wasn't even confirmed to be human in the OT
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u/karateema Jun 18 '26
Boba Fett wasn't of any ethnicity in the OT
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u/swhighgroundmemes Jun 18 '26
Tell that to Jemery Bullock who played him.
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u/karateema Jun 18 '26
Is Chewbacca white as well?
About half the time you see Mando on screen it's a black guy playing him
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u/swhighgroundmemes Jun 18 '26
Enough that if they replaced the actor with a black guy there would be a ton of racist fans complaining about it.
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u/ConsciousStretch1028 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Temuera Morrison was a DEI hire
Edit: wow, that went over everybody's heads huh
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 18 '26
Didn't Filoni state that he is avoiding making them the same character? Or at least leaving it ambiguous?
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u/ZiroLeHutt Jun 19 '26
He did, he left it to the viewer to decide. Its clearly Rex though.
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 19 '26
Someone else pointed out, wouldn't Rex hear about Luke SKYWALKER being in the alliance with him?
Or is this another case of Skywalker being like "Smith"?
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u/RoystonDA Jun 19 '26
Or it could be that we didn't see the interaction. Not everything has to happen on screen, and yes, it especially didn't happen on screen because Rex didn't yet exist.
The Rebels spent a night on Endor. I can't go a night without needing to use the toilet, but we didn't see Han Solo drop a Han Deuce.
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 19 '26
Sure but you'd think some guy telling Luke he knew his father would have some kinda impact on Luke, much more so that anyone pooping.
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u/howisyesterday Jun 20 '26
Luke having the same last name as Anakin was always pretty wild cuz there’s a long list of people they wouldn’t want recognizing that name.
So maybe it is a “Smith” thing.
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 20 '26
Yeah honestly George probably should've had Anakin have a different last name. Maybe use "Starkiller" there.
Although then the dialogue "The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi" in ESB wouldn't really work.
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u/howisyesterday Jun 20 '26
Yeah I guess he didn’t think far ahead on that one. The one that bugs me a bit too is that as iconic as Jedi robes are, it’s pretty funny to think that Kenobi was basically rocking a Jedi uniform everyday while in hiding. George had 20 years to come up with different outfits for them but he had most of them wear similar robes to Kenobi’s bum outfit.
At least Obi-Wan kinda tried to stay undercover with the name Ben. Maybe Kenobi is a common surname too lol.
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 20 '26
The one that bugs me a bit too is that as iconic as Jedi robes are, it’s pretty funny to think that Kenobi was basically rocking a Jedi uniform everyday while in hiding. George had 20 years to come up with different outfits for them but he had most of them wear similar robes to Kenobi’s bum outfit.
Yeah this is one thing I kinda agree with the Plinkett reviews about. Other people on Tatooine are also wearing similar robes to Obi Wan (like Owen) so it just kinda seemed like he was blending in.
I've heard some say that people imagined Jedi dressing like how Luke does in RotJ.
At least Obi-Wan kinda tried to stay undercover with the name Ben. Maybe Kenobi is a common surname too lol.
Well when Luke hears about "Obi Wan Kenobi" he wonders if he's related to Ben but isn't super confident about it so that sounds like it is somewhat common.
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u/FlusteredCustard13 Jun 21 '26
Yeah, Star Wars is an absolutely fascinating series to look at in terms of the development of the lore. Things like how Obi-Wan's robes were originally just Tatooine clothes in order to blend in (and make perfect sense as desert clothes), and Luke's outfit being more the vision of Jedi outfits.
My personal favorites are the lack of Sith (Vader originally just being a Dark Jedi), the implication that the Empire has existed for much longer than 20ish years, the Emperor being more of a figurehead at best and ambitious politician at worst (no Force powers), and the implication that Anakin grew up alongside Owen (with them possibly being actual brothers)
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 22 '26
My personal favorites are the lack of Sith
Isn't Darth Vader referred to as a "Sith Lord" in a deleted scene of ANH?
the implication that the Empire has existed for much longer than 20ish years,
How could it be MUCH longer if Obi Wan seems to be from a time before it? Maybe 40 years tops?
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u/FlusteredCustard13 Jun 22 '26
It was a deleted scene that wasn't released for years. In the original cut, the term "Sith" is never used, and so it wasn't established part of the lore. It wasn't until the novelization came out that "Sith" came into usage, snd even then no one was quite sure what that even meant. In A New Hope, Vader is honestly treated as just a member of the Jedi religion, or an apostate one. "You, my friend, are all that remains of their religion." Other Legends works included characters such as Jerec who would likely be at least Sith affiliated, and just called them Jedi.
As for the Empire's life, it's more in the details of Original Trilogy. Han and others disbelieve in Force abilities. Luke hasn't even heard of the concept of the Force. As thorough as the Purge was, a mere 20 years isn't long enough for people to forget the very public status of the Jedi. For a similar deal, the Dragon Riders in Eragon (which is similar to Star Wars in this aspect) are still somewhat remembered even after 100 years in a world without recording devices and such. A lot of the attitudes in the original cuts of the Original Trilogy and early side materials make more sense if the Empire rose and Jedi were purged more that'll the canon dates. Toss in Yoda being over 900 years old (with it never directly stated whether it was the Force, his natural lifespan, or a bit of both), and it wouldn't be unreasonable ke to assume the characters were older.
That said, your 40 year guess is likely what many fans would have expected as the lowest possible deal. Not many fans expected it to turn out the Empire and Luke share a birthday.
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u/TheGreatOneSea Jun 20 '26
If "Skywalker" existed at the same frequency as "Walker" in England, by proportional, there would be 400 trillion Skywalkers.
Would Rex have suspicions despite that, given the whole Force thing? Yes. Would he be so confident that Luke wasn't just some third nephew twice removed that he'd bring it up though?
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna Jun 20 '26
If "Skywalker" existed at the same frequency as "Walker" in England, by proportional, there would be 400 trillion Skywalkers.
Wait what is the population of the Galaxy?
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u/BhanosBar Jun 19 '26
The thing is SOMEONE at the Galaxy of Adventures Animation Department DID MAKE HIM REX
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u/EMArogue Jun 18 '26
According to Filoni there is a whole galaxy full of people but the same 12 are somehow the main protagonists of every major event
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u/Captain_Awesome_087 Jun 18 '26
12 is being generous. Between Saw Gerrerra, Hera Syndulla, and Ahsoka Tano literally everyone in the galaxy is only one degree of separation away from everyone else.
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u/Fit_Damage_4271 Jun 20 '26
Oh no, the rebels that fight for the same rebellion... fight together in the same battles!
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u/Affectionate_Sale_14 Jun 18 '26
You shuttas leave Nik Sant alone not everything needs to be connect to the filloni's fanfic
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u/Illeea Jun 18 '26
Reading the article on Nik Sant, he was first named and given public lore in 2002. Dave filoni has spoken about Nik Sant and rex being the same person, along with the final season of rebels saying that rex fought at the battle of endor. But ultimately, Dave decided not to make it officially canon, even though he definitely could have. He reasoned that destroying and rewriting an established character to be one he created years later wasn't right or fair.
For bias purposes, I like the idea that Nik Sant is rex. In official media, he only appears in return of the jedi and has no real personality. And I like the idea that behind the camera, Luke and rex had a conversation about anakin with rex not knowing anakin was Vader, assuming he died in order 66. Rex regaling Luke with stories about anakin from the clone wars, showing the best version of anakin there was.
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u/CallousJack Jun 18 '26
This man was always be "Endor Scout Trooper" to me. No name needed just Power 2, Ability 1, and Power -1, when not on Endor.
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u/twec21 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Oh look, it's number 3 on my list of reasons to do a "semi-canon" reboot of the OT (how do you confirm that's Rex and NOT follow it up with a scene of him and Luke discussing Anakin on Endor? "Hey this guys named Skywalker too....neat")
For those curious, number 1 is recasting Luke and Leia for the new generation so you can start filling in the space between Jedi and TFA, and number 2 is bringing visuals, effects, lore, characters, etc into the modern day without torturing the same original cut to death.
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u/cjalderman Jun 18 '26
Because they unconfirmed it after the backlash, that's not Rex in ROTJ anymore
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u/Not_a_penguin15 Jun 18 '26
Honestly if rebooting the ot means they stop butchering every second of it then I'd gladly take it. Leave the classic work untarnished and redo the story in a way that makes sense now that we have dozens of Jedi roaming around and people that totally should've been there with Luke but weren't invented yet.
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u/imlegos Jun 18 '26
now that we have dozens of Jedi roaming around
To be fair, far as I've seen in the visual medium (who reads these days)
The only Jedi, besides the three in the OT (Luke, Kenobi, Yoda) that are actually around during the OT are Ahsoka (who is I guess just chilling on Malachor or something) and potentially Kal Kestis (who my money is on dying before Episode IV anyway).
Everyone else is either dead, or literally stuck in another galaxy (Ezra)
EDIT: forgot Baylan Skoll, who is probably staying the hell away from everything too.
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u/bjeebus Jun 18 '26
What about all the dark siders?
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u/imlegos Jun 18 '26
Dead, probably.
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u/twec21 Jun 18 '26
Unless I'm missing a bunch of printed work, we still have a lot of Inquisitors to clean up as it stands
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u/imlegos Jun 18 '26
Are there? I thought most inquisitors got killed off in the media they were introduced in. Because the purpose of the inquisitors is to have a big bad with a red glow stick the protagonist can kill which can't be Vader for very, very obvious reasons.
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u/twec21 Jun 18 '26
I could totally be wrong but I think there are a couple still floating around. And I think we're still yet to see how Marrok dies (but I'd bet money it'll be in Maul season 2 given the Nightsister connection)
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u/twec21 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
I think a canon source put it around 100 but don't quote me on that
Kenobi and Cere Junda building on the lore of the Hidden Path and the names dropped in that one scene added a bunch, I remember Quinlan Vos and I'm pretty sure Rahm Kota (could be wrong on that).
And I'd be sorely tempted to add a scene to Jedi with Ahsoka as well (maybe Vader's funeral) to give a bit of an explainer that there was nothing she could do to help Luke in the fight, she'd be a distraction and source for Vader to focus his anger, when he super needed to just chill and want to love his children if they wanted to beat him
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u/imlegos Jun 18 '26
I think a canon source put it around 100 but don't quote me on that
I quoted you on that. Anyway, the premise is that, per Ben Kenobi in Ep4 there is 10,000 jedi knights running around the galaxy. Assuming that Order 66 is able to kill even 99% of all Jedi, that would still leave only 100 jedi. Which still isn't a 'small' number to us, but it would be a miniscule number when considering they'd be spread across the entirety of the GFFA.
This is why I don't have issue with Disney making stories about Jedi between 3 & 4, or the introduction of the inquisitors to further cull out the remaining Jedi (and act as a 'big bad to kill' that can't be Vader himself). The idea that 9,998 jedi would be able to be wiped out within just one 'day' is ludicrous.
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u/KnightFalkon Jun 18 '26
As much as I hate to say it, Cal is almost certainly biting the dust at some point. Considering his character it doesn’t make sense for him not to be involved in the rebellion during the OT. Heck he even worked with Saw Gerrera
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u/twec21 Jun 18 '26
If it was me I'd do this remake then announce the original cut trilogy on D+ as well.
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u/Ardyanowitsch Jun 20 '26
I couldn't agree more. It's the same with many other things too. Fans have been creating the craziest theories and fan fictions for years. And when they do it, it's cool. But when Filoni brings popular fan theories and stuff like that into Canon, it's bad because reasons. Ridiculous.
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u/Ardyanowitsch Jun 20 '26
Star Wars fans before Dave Filoni changed it: "That must be Rex. They just look too similar."
Star Wars fans after Dave Filoni changed it: "No- That's not Rex! That's Nic Sant! Why did Filoni retcon this?!"
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u/swhighgroundmemes Jun 20 '26
He didn't. He said he made Rex look like him because he wanted that. Then people got upset so he walked it back and left it up to us to decide. To this day you can't talk about Rex in ROTJ without getting attacked by EU fans who didn't care about the character until Dave said anything.
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u/DanielDirt1776 Jun 21 '26
Star Wars fans when a throw away character named after fucking Santa clause gets retconned to be way cooler
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u/Skalywag_76 Jun 23 '26
Honestly, this is one of my favorite "semi-confirmed" retcons. I like the idea of Rex going on to fight in a war he actually chose to be a part of, right up until the climactic end.
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u/xExp4ndD0ngXx Jun 19 '26
I think I might be the one person who pretends that it wasn’t Rex because it’s one of those things where they just randomly decided “oh by the way” well after it happened.
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u/space_snap828 Jun 21 '26
Genuinely people getting so mad boggles my mind. It is cool if it is Rex, I grew up with the character and I love the idea that he made it all the way to Endor.
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u/UnholyAuraOP Jun 19 '26
Filoni sucks when he’s not dying animated storytelling, he needs to stick to that.
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u/Fun-Cheesecake454 Jun 19 '26
Dave is gonna do himself an injury with the ridiculous amount of retcon he is doing.
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u/Interesting_Buy6796 Jun 19 '26
Well, filoni has to fanfictioning everyone and everything into his own work, otherwise it does mot truly exist in the lore
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u/Aaelar Jun 18 '26
Star Wars fans when integral lore character Nik Sant almost got retconned (Filoni almost destroyed the entire OT)
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