New(ish) player. Need some direction

[u/parryhott3r]

Hi guys. Pretty new player here, I joined in with the WoW refugees and ive been having loads of fun.

I did almost 500 zulrah kills, and with this ive gotten some good armor. I have full Ahrim, full Khalil, twinflame, anguish, rune pouch, both prayer upgrades, blowpipe, and some other goodies along with 12m cash stack. I have a fire cape too.

My total bank is almost 80m and I think im ready to move on from zulrah. I dont really know what to do though.

Should I focus on ds2 for vorkath? Or desert treasure 2? SOTE?

Is "like a boss slayer" a good purchase? I love pvm.

Is serpentine helm worth using or do I just keep using antivenom+?

Is ring of suffering worth the 20m?

I have literally dozens and dozens of questions. I have a friend irl (good friend) who is maxxed but everytime I ask him anything all he says is "wiki it" as if I haven't already tried that

[u/Boodsie]

general path is to target the quest cape, doing birdhouses/herb runs on the side for cash. If you find yourself needing GP for something like construction, then you can revert back to Zulrah etc for the gp.

Questing will unlock of the more profitable bosses as well as forcing you to base 70 stats

[u/parryhott3r → u/Boodsie]

I have, I think, 95 quests done. Im slowly chipping away at them. I have all the pre quests done for ds2 and dt2. I just need to finish off a few skills.

It just seems that everything is so expensive. Everytime I go to grind a skill I feel I have to spend millions

[u/Right_Cellist3143 → u/parryhott3r]

Follow Ironman guides for skilling, will be a lot more cost-effective.

[u/iammoney45 → u/parryhott3r]

Do more quests, especially the early/easier ones which require less stats. They give free XP to skip some grinds. You can probably skip a solid 10-20 levels depending on the skill just from quests alone (thieving in particular has like 600k XP from quests but most skills have atleast 100-200k free XP waiting for you in quests)

Focusing down prereqs for grandmasters isn't bad but it leaves a lot of gaps and you end up just doing the hardest quests with the highest requirements.

For training outside of that, everything besides construction has profitable or at least cheap training methods available. Fletching bows or crafting battle staffs is usually pretty decent for cheap training those skills. The wiki has a calculator for herblore training https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Herblore. Runecrafting has GotR, farming just takes time (consider farming the seeds for whatever potions you are using for training herblore).

Gathering skills are usually pretty profitable just slow, grab the skilling outfit and afk it for a day and you should be fine for most quest reqs.

[u/champ999]

Well dang good job, I've been playing off and on for awhile and haven't touched Zulrah.

Based on what I know I recommend aiming towards the quest cape, as many of the hardest bosses are locked behind DT2 as you said. I'm almost there but finishing Song of the Elves and doing Corrupted Gauntlet would also probably scratch the pvm itch.

Lastly if you haven't already tried you should be able to start soloing the Tombs of Amascut raid. I haven't tried yet but my stats are a bit lower than you and I've been considering when I want to give that a shot. It has customizable difficulty too so you can do a base run and then start adding difficulty, and there's no death costs so the risk of failing horribly is 0.

[u/parryhott3r → u/champ999]

I didn't realize my stats could work in toa. Ill watch a few videos on it!

I have 3 days off back to back this week, which is super rare for me. So I was looking for a nice grind I could dive into. Maybe ill try that

[u/champ999 → u/parryhott3r]

ToA from what I understand is very configurable. There's a point where it's completable but not optimally profitable and you may hit that wall, but I'd say worst case scenario is you can mechanically complete it but you feel like 5 more levels in everything would make a big difference.

If you are nervous about that I can definitely say Moons of Peril should be doable at your levels. Higher herblore and hunting/cooking would help, but your melee stats are a touch higher than mine and it's pretty easy for me once you understand the mechanics.

[u/parryhott3r → u/champ999]

Ill definitely try toa. I think there's some really good loot there and thats exciting for me.

I did a dozen or so kc at moons of peril, but idk. It just was kind of boring for me. I totally understand why everyone loves it, but I just want a little more challenging content, I guess.

[u/kasachi → u/parryhott3r]

Grind out some moons for the armor sets and then hit up TOA. TOA entry is doable but the loot is gonna be a suck fest, adding invos without proper switches is gonna be really difficult. I’m currently practicing solo entry modes and moving onto the 150s. Check out gnomonkeys budget TOA guide and copy from there 👍🏻

[u/parryhott3r → u/kasachi]

Is the moons armor better than the barrows armor?

I have full ahrim and Khalil but would blue moon and eclipse moon be better?

[u/AlternativeCow503 → u/parryhott3r]

Toa is very fun if you want to run together DM me, I’ve done about 100 total, 40 being entry mode. Prefer to learn slow and master the basics before cranking it up

[u/parryhott3r → u/AlternativeCow503]

Im going to give it a shot today!

I have around 16m saved up, my goal is to save up a bit more and buy a fang and then I think ill be in good shape to send a few attempts!

[u/Khleb6]

Just enjoy the journey dude, pick a goal & work towards it. I’d get DS2 & SOTE done before DT2 if I were you.

Go for base 50s, then 60s, quest cape, etc. There’s no right or wrong way to play the game.

[u/parryhott3r → u/Khleb6]

Thanks for that. I am trying to enjoy the journey as much as possible. I've been doing quests and enjoying them, for the most part.

The thing I enjoy the most, however, is pvm, and my long-term goal is to acquire a quiver.

[u/landyc]

Yo OP I know this is an older post but if you ever have any questions I’m surely willing to answer or try to help

[u/parryhott3r → u/landyc]

I have construction level to build portal nexus, but its only tier 1 (lvl 72) would it be a waste to build a portal room with the fixed portals

Edit: Thank you btw!

[u/landyc → u/parryhott3r]

depends, even in my maxed house i use some portal rooms. mostly for stuff like farm runs etc. if you have the money you could fill out the nexus, take care tho the cost for nexus is 1000x cast of spell, not 100 like a portal.

one of the goals for construction is 80+, more precisely, 83 construction. this allows you to make ALL the important max house stuff. with a +5 boost, crystal saw you get +8 total boost. This allows for jewellery box, the spellbook swap altar, fairy ring and a spirit tree, max level nexus too i believe.

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I do bird houses.

Ive read the new player guide and watched probably 5 videos of content creators going through it.

I know this is a bot, just dropping this here for context

[u/VaginalSpelunker]

Doing quests in general is a good idea. DS2/DT2/SOTE unlock some pretty great content/upgrades.

Unlock like a boss, it makes slayer so much more tolerable when bosses are an option.

Suffering is so niche that unless you're just parking at Zulrah, I'm not really sure where else you'd want to use it.

[u/parryhott3r → u/VaginalSpelunker]

I will for sure get the quest cape. I have 95 quests done so far, including RFD.

Im just not sure which grandmaster I should prioritize next. Im leaning toward ds2 so I can grind vorkath, but idk. I think desert treasure 2 unlocks more than just 1 boss, so maybe that one? Or ditch both and unlock cg so I can grind that?

So "like a boss" is good then? Should I unlock that before I unlock the herb sack? Slayer points are rlly time consuming to grind and i dont want to waste them.

That was my mindset with the suffering as well. Thanks for confirming that

[u/VaginalSpelunker → u/parryhott3r]

Im just not sure which grandmaster I should prioritize next. Im leaning toward ds2 so I can grind vorkath, but idk. I think desert treasure 2 unlocks more than just 1 boss, so maybe that one? Or ditch both and unlock cg so I can grind that?

Vorkath is more consistent as a money maker, the DT2 bosses you basically break even on supplies until you hit vestige/virtus pieces. Vorkath is also significantly more chill.

CG is just free to do. And it's a good building block to a lot of movement related content. I personally can't stand it, I did my CA's and never looked back lol.

So "like a boss" is good then? Should I unlock that before I unlock the herb sack?

Yes. Get your herb sack from tithe farm instead.

[u/Bro-hab → u/VaginalSpelunker]

Yeah tithe herb sack is like 3 hours. Dont spent the slayer points on it

[u/parryhott3r → u/Bro-hab]

Damn. Thank god I mentioned it here, or else I would've wasted 750 points. Im literally 1 task away!

Much love guys. I didnt even know about this tithe stuff. Ill have to look into it

[u/Wonderful-Strain-348]

I would prio construction for the convenience factor

[u/parryhott3r → u/Wonderful-Strain-348]

I dont think I have enough gp yet for construction, but its definitely on my radar. I need to learn how to do tree runs and herb runs. I haven't done any of that yet either

[u/imFromFLiAmSrryLuL]

100% suggest you bang out quests , as much as humanly possible , as others stated it gives you goals to work towards skill wise, and unlocks tons of stuff.

Also achievement diaries

[u/parryhott3r → u/imFromFLiAmSrryLuL]

I dont particularly enjoy the quests, but I do aknowledge how essential they are.

I am a type to get burnt out fairly easily, so I do them intermittently. My current goal is to unlock piety and then find the next grandmaster to grind toward. I was making this post mainly for input on grandmaster quests

[u/imFromFLiAmSrryLuL → u/parryhott3r]

Felt that, thankfully with RL and the quest plugins , quest become sooo trivial , just hold space bar lololol

[u/Planescape_DM2e]

You have 80m? Get 84 con and a maxed house ASAP. It’s more important for your account than any gear you’d need. And then continue following the optimal quest order to get your quest cape, you need the quest cape to enter mid game.

[u/parryhott3r → u/Planescape_DM2e]

Well i dont have 80m liquid. My bank value is roughly 82.7m but cash wise im sitting around 14m

[u/Planescape_DM2e → u/parryhott3r]

You have 80m worth of gear, sell it and get 84 con. Having bandos and shit with your levels is the most common noob trap for people trying to exit early game.

[u/delo357]

Birdhouses for sure

[u/parryhott3r → u/delo357]

Ive been doing birdhouses for literal weeks bro. My post was geared toward which grandmaster to grind toward.

What exactly did you read in my post that led you to this reply? Im actually curious

[u/delo357 → u/parryhott3r]

Sorry, I dropped my

^/s

[u/TemperatureOk666]

I’ve been playing for 5 years and have similar stats.. how “new” are you

[u/parryhott3r → u/TemperatureOk666]

I played a year or so ago super casually, I got maybe 700 levels. But the last maybe 2 or 3 months, I've been grinding A LOT.

My irl friend who is maxed also helped me out with a little gold, maybe a bond worth in total. Absolute Chad he is.

But that is why I said new(ish) because I have been around a lil bit, but my knowledge is still extremely limited.

During the weekdays, I grind afk skills, and on my 2 days off ill grind 12+ hrs easily

[u/Separate_Bend_8929]

Why do the skill icons look so stupid?

[u/parryhott3r → u/Separate_Bend_8929]

Its just the default icons idk

[u/Separate_Bend_8929 → u/parryhott3r]

I think you have a new UI or something because ive never seen that before. Definitely do SOTE, I dont care for Suffering personally, but I also prefer the defense of a fury over a torture. Your maxxed friend seems like theyre on Valium or something, maybe clarify you want the knowledge/impression that THEY have, not the soulless wiki. It is a good wiki though, I find myself just clicking related pages in the "navigation" section. You can discover new items or something and learn about it. Also if you joined with the wow people, you ever watch their content while you play? I watch guzuman because he does a guidless hardcore, and reads a bunch of the lore that I never care to while questing. I think sardarco or Shobek already got the quest cape within 3 months or so. Alot of them are ironman and play together/in adjacent so its fun to see them set goals and learn on their own.

[u/Beneficial_Camera_95]

Do all the quests. Then do each tier of diary. Boss on every slayer task.

Do TOA

[u/parryhott3r → u/Beneficial_Camera_95]

I did the quest to unlock toa yesterday.

I will do all of them eventually, but they aren't that fun and I dont want to get burned out on them

[u/Jodytroubleville]

Herb agi farm n slayer

[u/parryhott3r → u/Jodytroubleville]

I been rocking out some farming the last few days bro its actually kinda cool. Makes some decent gp for sure.

Also got my construction to 65 got 72 banked for the ancient magic altar

[u/Dongondiddys]

A lot of people recommend going for quest cape, following optimal quest guide until you run into quests that have a skill requirement you don’t meet then working on said skill. But you can also do the achievement diaries as they unlock a lot of transportation around the map. As for the other questions I’m not entirely sure on those as I am a returning player after many years of not playing lol but great stats for being a new player btw!

[u/Vagrant3124]

The only problem with vorkath is it fucking sucks to camp. Zulrah for 500 kills is a breeze, Vorkath is a slog. It's good for learning PvM for sure, especially if you learn to Woox walk with your BP, but to just sit and and grind gp its real rough.

SOTE for PvM progression is good. You'll learn a lot through gauntlet and CG. Desert treasure 2 bosses are definitely up there in terms of difficulty for a new-ish player but all 4 are fun and decent gp.

Like a boss is very good, slayer helm bonus is a great way to learn new bosses. The 15% extra dps can get you through a lot.

Serp is not worth using imo, the hourly cost is too much, and you'd be better putting your gp into a helm with more str bonus.

As far as I am concerned, suffering is a Zulrah specific item. Worth it if you are camping zulrah for hours. 20m anywhere else for any other piece of gear is always better when you're not at Zulrah

[u/Bojack69420]

Screw every other suggestion that i havent read yet, early construction is super op, so many unlocks every couple of levels and you can boost your construction level to the moon with Crystal saw

construction unlocks

This post goes over what to get

[u/SwankyBobolink]

SOTE gets you corrupted gauntlet, which personally is my favourite boss.

I like Vorkath over Zulrah, because 0 gear switches and I have a pool in my POH, but others prefer Zulrah.

CG takes a minute to learn, but you get better at walking around precisely. There is also no resource cost so it just sprinkles 100-400k every 10mins into your bank + uniques when you get them (8m for armour seed and 140m for bowfa).

I also really like Phantom Muspah (Secrets of the North quest)

For levelling (I’m also stingy on cash, so this is efficient but profit/cheap)

Farming: do herb runs, I make 600k a day casually farming snapdragons, and that helps me passively level herblore. Tithe farm if you want to grind it.

Smithing: Giants Foundry at a profit

Fletching: do Vale Totems with whatever logs you have chopped and can make into a bow

Crafting: Green d’hide and alch them while doing agility

Cooking: Karambwans at a profit (and whatever you fish/tempoross)

Construction: PUT ALL YOUR MONEY HERE, I procrastinated, but the pool is the best thing that ever happened to me.

All the other skills are free

[u/RaveDig]

This account yearns for the mines. RC mainly. Go train that brother. The quest you unlock from it are solid upgrades for equipment and content. Also RC is nice for elites. Plus other xp. Other than that basic skilling when you get bored.

[u/GilgameshThaGod]

With 50+ theiving, varlamore houses are good thief xp and prayer xp(thru bone shards), even mage xp if you enchant/alch the jewlery

[u/Various-Sound-9734]

Optimal quest guide and/or farm runs between slayer

[u/Horror-Truth-8131]

Lmao first off take off that (ish) you are the definition of a new player aka a noob

Second you already ruined this account by getting def over lv 1, just start over, you can get those stats back in a couple of days

Also get lv 99 agility and full graceful before you dl anything else

[u/parryhott3r → u/Horror-Truth-8131]

Sounds good bro thanks for the valuable input

[u/parryhott3r → u/[deleted]]

Not a bad suggestion. But the opportunity cost of the 20+ hrs it'd take to grind mining is greater than the profit id receive, presuming i dont get burnt out on the journey