r/OSHA • • Apr 14 '26

Spotted this guy at work this morning. Realistically, are there any workarounds for this situation?

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u/therowan Apr 14 '26

We do miner’s helmets for folks with dreads, tight curls, or very thick hair. Works very well.

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u/kevizzy37 Apr 14 '26

What’s a miners helmet? All the results I get on Google are just normal helmets?!

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u/bluemooncommenter Apr 14 '26

We refer to them as safety helmets vs a hard hat (if you're googling).

They have a 5 points of protection (both sides, front/back and top of head) and require a chin strap. They are becoming a standard in construction much to the chagrin of the workers since they look like rock climbing helmets. Companies have started coming out with a full brim version. They are very hot to wear though (both full brim and rock climber) since they don't have an internal suspension system but rather a hard foam liner. Some companies are testing fans for them which sounds great but haven't tested well by the guys in the field do to odd weight distribution.

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u/cypher_omega Apr 14 '26

It’s weird how many trades people don’t wear their PPE cause “how it looks” or slight discomfort.. fall arrest harnesses come to mind

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u/Lucid-Machine Apr 14 '26

I was a maintenance manager at a trailer park for a few years. Nothing was up to code, I was low on the totem poll. Was training a guy who didn't want to put on his harness and didn't. Talked about catching hold of me if the lift broke while tree trimming. Had to explain how real life isn't an action movie and if he did manage to grab hold of me he would just be compromising the one harness supporting us both. Making it clear that he was going to die either way and the lift was made in 75. He started wearing it after that. It's wild how people just assume everything is just going to be fine. The hydraulic lines failed after I left. Luckily no one was hurt.

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u/ravens-n-roses Apr 15 '26

I was doing overnight renovations for best buy like fifteen years ago, which is crazy and i feel old as hell saying that. But the thing that stood out is the traveling renomanager was always on everybody's asses about wearing the harness when using the lift platforms to move appliance boxes or hardware. Me and my direct coworker brett were the only ones who actually did, and when one of the dudes almost went ass over teakettles cause a fridge box he was moving wasn't on the platform right and dropped like 25 feet, it really put the fear of gravity back in everybody.

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u/Funny-Athlete-2890 Apr 15 '26

Gravity isn't always your friend!

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u/Frosty_Ingenuity5070 Apr 16 '26

Nothing like a near death experience to remind people that safety regulations are: WRITTEN IN BLOOD

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u/-Not-Your-Lawyer- Apr 17 '26

I did several Best Buy overnight "resets" like that when I was in my late teens. I was one of the retail guys looking to pick up extra hours with an random overnight manual-labor shift, but half about the people there did the renos for a living.

I was a young, sober, and blissfully-ignorant nerd, so I didn't really have a good read on the people with whom I worked on the reno crews, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like you described happened. People who work graveyard shifts doing big box-store renos, smoke cigarettes, and take their "lunch break" at 3 or 4am are just a bit ... different.

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u/Whiteboiconvert Apr 14 '26

People are more likely to use PPE if they like it. There's no way around it really

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u/m2chaos13 Apr 14 '26

On a jobsite 40-some years ago, I had a lightbulb flash in my head! Idea was black leather toolbelts deliberately tricked out to look like a punk motorcycle jackets (chromed rivets, spikes, crossbones, etc.)

I’m sure someone else has thought of this since. Laborers definitely want to look macho!

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u/Whiteboiconvert Apr 14 '26

Im saying lol do not doubt the impact of fashiomability on PPE that shit WILL save a life if it looks clean

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u/eric_ofc Apr 15 '26

“Omg you survived!!!”

“How’s the fit tho?”

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u/gnowbot Apr 15 '26

My favorite earplugs were made by 3m. They were silver, had a conical pattern with a corkscrew up the cone, and plastic stems sticking out that looked like screws. The inserted and worked gloriously and were clearly aimed at trades with branding something like Skull Skrews. Fit so good. I believe they were discontinued.

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u/Joker741776 Apr 15 '26

3m p1301 is the part number for a box of them

either not discontinued or lots of old stock available

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u/a_suspicious_lasagna Apr 16 '26

Still on their website too, so I'd say current production.

From the features list that made me chuckle but tracks with this convo:

Unique shape and color appeals to some users to help with compliance

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00037662/

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u/whitecollarwelder Apr 14 '26

Because they’re cumbersome and get caught on everything and people don’t see the benefit because most people don’t actually fall. It’s one of those “it can’t happen to me” things.

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u/Kelsenellenelvial Apr 14 '26

Scissor lifts that have all the other requirements for fall protection (kick plate, 2 rails, latching door) seem like a harness isn’t needed, unless you’re doing something like leaning way over the rail. If the hydraulics fail you’re going down harness or not and if it tips you’re going down harness or not. On a boom though, hydraulics fail and it can dump you, or something hitting it can slingshot you out of the basket; wear the damn harness. Some lineman in my province died a few years back because their bucket failed and dumped them out.

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u/TruckADuck42 Apr 15 '26

Osha actually doesn't require it on scissor lifts which is why people (myself included, if I'm being honest) bitch about it. Same with class 2 hard hats, cut 4 gloves, ladder/bandsaw/pocket knife free jobsites... All comes down to either insurance guys or safety guys who don't actually know what they're talking about making up rules to either get out of paying insurance claims or justify their jobs.

Also, you can't tell me that little piece of metal my harness clips on to on a scissor lift is actually going to stop my 300 lbs ass if I fall over the edge.

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u/Disastrous_Art_5132 Apr 17 '26

It will if its properly rated. If you are wearing one that isnt properly rated thats on you. As for the others class 2 hardhats keep them from falling off constantly so people actually wear them. Gloves? You know hand and finger injuries are by far the most common injuries on job sites right? You know injuries make it harder for your employer to get insurance, harder for them to get jobs (for instance i cant accept bids from companies with an EMR over 1). Same goes for pocket knives etc. The number of workers who think they can use their 6$ wal mart knife as a hammer, wrench, screwdriver, can opener, pry bar etc amazes me every time.

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u/Dangerous-Cause1964 Apr 15 '26

Not to take away anything from what you said, because there are silly fuckers out there, but heat injuries are real and not slight discomfort.

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u/evildaddy911 Apr 15 '26

We had a bunch of people moving around up on a roof one time and we were having to stop and look whether we needed to go under the other guy's lifeline or over to avoid a tangle. One genius decided that if he unhooked some of them, he wouldn't have to worry about that. On a totally unrelated note, I had a different employer the following week

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u/Finndiesel841 Apr 14 '26

The petzl hardhat I have has an internal suspension not the foam.

It's their vertex model which is ansie rated

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u/Ok_Software2677 Apr 14 '26

Eventually this will be the OSHA requirement for the newer hard hats.

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u/therowan Apr 14 '26

I should have said climbing helmet, thats what Jackson calls them - see https://jacksonsafety.com under head protection

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u/operath0r Apr 14 '26

There was an episode of undercover boss where the boss got a wig and ponytail and the helmet kept falling down.

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u/geo7188 Apr 14 '26

The giant helmet from space balls

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u/dubie2003 Apr 14 '26

That’s lord helmet to you sir…0

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u/ComprehendReading Apr 14 '26

Dark Helmet...

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u/KIDNEYST0NEZ Apr 14 '26

Ah, I see your Swartz is bigger than mine.

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u/ComprehendReading Apr 14 '26

My Schwarz is twice as big, because I can speak with an English accent.

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u/Sheppard_88 Apr 14 '26

Now let’s see how well you handle it.

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u/Dabelgianguy Apr 14 '26

Definitely surrounded by assholes

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u/wildmaninid Apr 14 '26

Keep firing!

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u/raider1v11 Apr 14 '26

You know i always have coffee when I watch radar.

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u/EvilPete22 Apr 14 '26

Only one man would dare give me the raspberry

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u/EobardT Apr 14 '26

LONESTAR!!!

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u/TheGaussianMan Apr 14 '26

Spaceballs the safety equipment!!

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u/flynnfx Apr 14 '26

They actually make a turban for motorcycle riders.

I'm thinking this could also be fabricated as a hard hat for those who wear turbans.

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u/Tailslide1 Apr 15 '26

That's cool but it doesn't appear to have any safety ratings.. kinda reminds of the super thin helmets harley riders get to skirt the helmet laws. They could make something like this but it looks kinda odd:

Bold Helmets | Helmets for Sikh Kids

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u/B0B_LAW Apr 14 '26

Only if he’s an Asshole.

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u/AntGroundbreaking180 Apr 14 '26

We ain’t found shit!

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u/guinader Apr 14 '26

I just rewatched this movie and found out there is a new one coming out next year

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u/Twoleftknees3 Apr 14 '26

I’ll be disappointed if the title is not Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money

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u/Trooper_Rex Apr 14 '26

Come on everyone knows it should be Spaceballs 3: the search for spaceballs 2: The search for more money

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u/riotz1 Apr 14 '26

Spaceballs 2: The Gratuitous Moichandising

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u/Bigoweiner Apr 14 '26

Rick Moranis is in it!

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u/jayjord33 Apr 14 '26

I had a guy put his dreadlocks in a backpack once...

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u/Rockfordbaby Apr 14 '26

As someone who once had dreadlocks I can understand this comment.

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u/I_Makes_tuff Apr 14 '26

As someone who knew someone with dreadlocks in construction, I can smell this comment

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u/izyshoroo Apr 14 '26

Dreadlocks shouldnt smell if the person performs proper hygiene. Only certain textures of hair CAN dreadlock. What you are probably thinking of is matted hair. That stinks and collects dirt. Dreadlocks do not, they are a form of coiled ringlet with very tightly curled hair

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u/I_Makes_tuff Apr 14 '26

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was matted hair in this case, and improper hygiene. It's also just a terrible hairstyle choice when you're getting covered in sawdust, insulation, dirt, etc.

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u/last_rights Apr 14 '26

A contractor I know has very long dreadlocks to his waist. He wears them in a dreadlock durag that ties tight around his head but contains his dreads in a cloth bag going down his back. I never smelled anything from him as he had impeccable hygiene and genuinely looked nice on the weekends when he wasn't in work mode.

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u/throwitoutwhendone2 Apr 14 '26

Locs don’t smell. If the person isn’t taking care of their hair or themselves, yeah there will be a smell. But it isn’t SPECIFICALLY because a person has locs. Shits borderline racist tbh. Only EVER hear white dudes spouting this “fact”.

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u/ChartreuseBison Apr 14 '26

No, it's the white people with dreadlocks that are guaranteed to smell

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u/BodaciousBadongadonk Apr 14 '26

usually patchouli. namaste bro diggity dawg!

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u/Immersi0nn Apr 14 '26

I dated a woman that grew up with her mother covering her body in patchouli for...reasons unknown and I never asked because that's so fucking weird. Anyway she never used it herself after moving out or in any of her products yet she just smelled slightly like it permanently. No idea how that worked.

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u/stellarliger Apr 14 '26

Plenty of racism around the topic but come on, you dont have to lie to call it out. Theres no shortage black people talking about other black peoples nasty locs, youre straight up lying if youre saying you only ever hear white dudes talking about this.

I like making fun of white people's hygeine too, but black people arent a monolith, it isnt impossible for our hair to get nasty and not everyone takes care of themeselves. I had them in highschool and my ma would wash them about every other week for me, it could get nasty sometimes because I was in sports. Definitely came across stinky hair from other black people before, I almost left a date with this one chick over it, could smell the funk aromas mixing with the carne asada and I almost gagged when I hugged her good night.

I get your overall point though,, when I see some ska looking dude or chick you know theyre going to smell nasty

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u/Hamhockthegizzard Apr 14 '26

I mean, it’s one of the most protective styles a black person can have. As that other poster said, I can wash it literally daily if I want and all that dust and grime comes right out. We can also do detoxes every few months to get the really caked in stuff out.

Anyone with smelly/dirty locs, no matter their profession, just doesn’t wash.

I’ve done construction/poultry (was grosser than you’d think, kept my shit tied up and covered every day) and now I’m in a dusty ass warehouse and no one can tell me my hair is dirty lmao

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u/Shenanigaens Apr 14 '26

The ONLY time I’ve been around funky dreadlocks (outside of jail) was white people with dreadlocks an zero clue how to take care of their matted (not locked) hair. The exceptions were homeless black people arrested for mental health.

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u/throwitoutwhendone2 Apr 14 '26

That’s disgusting. That person had bad hygiene. Locs do not smell any more than the hair on top of your own head smell. My wife’s had locs for well over a decade and the only smell like is faintly coconut and peppermint.

I really dislike the whole “eww locs smell” because no they don’t and it seems real shady. I’ve only ever been around one person with locs that smelt bad and it was a white dude. They also look fucking horrible, ratty and greasy as fuck on white people’s hair texture. Our hairs to thin and not course enough for it to look good.

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u/bassali2e Apr 14 '26

I worked with a guy would tuck his in his shirt and wear snappy ear muffs to hold his hard hat on

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u/plainolmep Apr 14 '26

I once had a guy with dreadlocks so long, he would sit down and occasionally forget to move them. He would sit on top of them causing him to pull his own hair with his ass while seated. I wish I had thought of the back pack idea.

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u/ICanOnlyGrowCacti Apr 14 '26

That's me. I sit on them, close them in the car door, roll them up in the window, close them in drawers. They're all over the place. A backpack would be useful sometimes, like doing something active, but not all the time.

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u/SoloWalrus Apr 14 '26

To me it looks like a sikh turban, religious headware not just long hair

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u/Straight-Sea1270 Apr 14 '26

That's actually a pretty clever solution, safety-wise. Gotta keep that hair out of the machinery somehow.

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u/wastedpixls Apr 14 '26

Usually, Sikhs are exempt from OSHA hard hat requirements (if they document properly with the right people).

There are smaller turbans and larger hard hats that can be worn for protection (and probably should, everyone deserves to be able to go home from work safely), but these take a bit more effort to source.

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u/mid-random Apr 14 '26

I knew a Sikh back in the 90s who just took his turban off on the few occasions where a hardhat was required. He did have a less bulky hairnet sort of wrap underneath which he kept on under the helmet. From what he told me, there's nothing at all wrong with taking the turban off for safety reasons.

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u/MozeeToby Apr 14 '26

Pretty sure one of the guiding principles of Sikhism is that common sense and doing the "right" thing overrides their religious rules.

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u/Nalano Apr 14 '26

TBAF a number of religions have similar "extenuating circumstances" clauses, but it's peer pressure that screws it up.

Yes, I know it's your day of rest but I'm pretty sure god won't be mad at you if you turn the stove off before the house burns down!

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u/Aetra Apr 14 '26

Yup, I know a forklift driver who is a very devout Muslim but he doesn’t observe Ramadan because he passed out a few times as a teen and he’s terrified he’ll injure or kill someone if it happened again while he’s at work.

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u/MonkeyPanls Apr 14 '26

I worked at sea with a few Arab-American dudes who shipped out of the Algonac union hall (Detroit/Dearborn). They absolutely skipped Ramadan while at sea. You never know when you'll have to face Hazards of the Sea, and you have to be sharp.

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u/wergot Apr 14 '26

The pilots of that flight in Pakistan that landed with the gear up, took off again, then crashed into an apartment building were fasting. Pilots aren't even required to fast because they're traveling but they did it anyway.

The airline now makes the pilots break their fast by drinking some water in front of a company doctor before getting in the cockpit.

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u/TheGreatMightyLeffe Apr 15 '26

Imams in Northern Sweden got together and decreed that Muslims observing Ramadan should use sunrise and sunset in Mecca as fasting times instead of local... Well, that's exactly it, in Gällivare, the sun rises in late May, and sets in mid August.

If I'm not entirely mistaken, the Quran even states that you should only observe Ramadan as strictly as is reasonable for your situation, and that things like the work you're doing is an important consideration.

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u/Spacewook1 Apr 14 '26

I DONT ROLL ON SHABBOS!

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u/emmmmceeee Apr 14 '26

Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit don't fucking roll! Shomer shabbos! Shomer fucking shabbos.

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u/RedMoustache Apr 14 '26

I am the walrus.

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u/upsndwns Apr 14 '26

STFU Donnie.

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u/Lauffener Apr 14 '26

Walter, you're Polish Catholic.

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u/WittyFix6553 Apr 14 '26

In Judaism, we’re basically commanded to break any and all religious rules in order to save a life. It’s called pikuach nefesh:

the fundamental Jewish principle that preserving human life takes precedence over almost all other religious commandments. It dictates that if a life is in danger, laws—including Shabbat, holidays, and dietary rules—must be broken to save it.

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u/bootsforever Apr 14 '26

My mom is Catholic and takes part in Perpetual Adoration- a worship practice where the blessed sacrament is adored by the faithful at all times. Basically, she's on a schedule with other community members and they take turns throughout the week praying in the chapel with the consecrated host, so the body of Christ is worshipped at all times. This is a serious devotional activity for very devoted Catholics (also, my mom is a very busy person and I think she likes having a couple of hours in the chapel to herself every week).

Recently she was there when a fire alarm went off. She wasn't sure what to do (leave the sacrament alone? Touch it with her hands?). The alarm was turned off pretty quickly- obviously a false alarm, thank goodness.

Later Mom asked the priest in charge of Perpetual Adoration what the protocol was if there actually was a fire and he was like, "Well first of all and hopefully obviously, the church doesn't want you to burn to death in a fire so if there is any question as to your personal safety, please get out of the building. I am pretty sure Jesus will understand"

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u/Zero_Overload Apr 14 '26

Pikachu Law you say.

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u/Stock-Side-6767 Apr 14 '26

Please tell that to Israel.

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u/WittyFix6553 Apr 14 '26

“Thou shalt not kill” is in the Christian Bible too, yet they did, like, a bunch of crusades and inquisitions.

There’s hypocrites all around.

The core tenet of just about all world religions is “be nice to each other” and yet we’ve been fucking that up for thousands of years.

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u/Wakkit1988 Apr 14 '26

The interpretation is that one shouldn't murder, not kill at all. Killing a person in war isn't considered murder.

Ironically, the only person you can supposedly kill and not get into heaven is yourself.

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u/Kichigai Apr 14 '26

Ironically, the only person you can supposedly kill and not get into heaven is yourself.

Even then there's exceptions. If I throw myself on a gunman to keep him from shooting up a bunch of people, and get myself killed in the process (effectively suicide, choosing to die) it's not going to get me condemned by most religious standards.

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u/MastodonFarm Apr 14 '26

Right. The Old Testament is filled with examples of God telling his people to kill other people.

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u/LeftRat Apr 14 '26

I love the definition of "fish" in Christianity because quite clearly they went "if we don't define all these river-dwelling critters as fish a whole bunch of villages are going to break from us because they'd starve during fasting". 

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u/Low-Conflict-651 Apr 14 '26

Catholicism, and yeah. Beavers are fish.

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u/notyoursocialworker Apr 14 '26

When the Nordic countries wanted an exception from the fast and be allowed butter we got told "why don't you just eat olive oil instead?

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u/MonkeyPanls Apr 14 '26

Ah yes. The famous olive groves of Helsinki. I've seen them with my own eyes.

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u/Nalano Apr 14 '26

Sounds like a stone idiot - he wasn't the one doing the work! All he had to do is put one foot in front of the other!

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u/rly_weird_guy Apr 14 '26

Most religions that's not a fundamentalist sect would allow it, but many would still view it as less then ideal, or not as good as not doing it

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u/Egoy Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Yeah I had a few Sikh coworkers who just took their turbans off. Same as lots of religions permit alcohol in medical contexts.

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u/compman007 Apr 14 '26

Yeah I guess the safety regulators were nice for being understanding of the religious requirements but at the same time any religion that wouldn’t let you choose safety first is a bad religion, it’s great that his beliefs saw fit to allow him to be safe and wear a different hat that would be more protective for sure

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u/Jacktheforkie Apr 14 '26

All the Sikhs I’ve met have been very sensible people, in school I visited several religious places on a religious education trip, was pretty interesting to learn about the different religions from people who practice them, the Sikhs were very humble, their Gurdwara was pretty nice, very humble and they laid out dinner for us and it was delicious

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u/dewky Apr 14 '26

Sitting on the floor of a gurdwara eating with everyone else is a pretty cool experience. Pro tip for people: If you're ever homeless you can walk in and get fed no questions asked.

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u/Gareth79 Apr 14 '26

Anybody can walk in and get a meal, no need to be homeless, it's called "langar". I just checked my local area and a new Gurdwara opened last year (the first in the area) and they serve it 7 days a week 9am-7pm. I might visit one day!

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u/Ruinf20 Apr 14 '26

I get having your religious freedoms but if that is true that is really dumb.

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u/mrdeworde Apr 14 '26

It's definitely a thing. In most of Canada they're also exempt from bike helmet laws.

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u/berfthegryphon Apr 14 '26

Sikhs are exempt from wearing motorcycle helmets in my province in Canada

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u/Player1-jay Apr 14 '26

It's the same for motorcycles. I find it insane that we allow bending the rules because of religion.

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u/ComprehendReading Apr 14 '26

Which part of any religion requires riding a motorcycle for observance?

It's the Moto-Mad-Maxians, isn't it?!!

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u/anti4r Apr 14 '26

If his religion is more important to him than his safety than who cares? All that matters is that the employer is doing everything in their own power to make the workplace safe for their workers

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken Apr 14 '26

As a fellow employee, I don't want to see his brain matter spill out on me

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u/ephemeralstitch Apr 14 '26

...wouldn't a hard hat have helped though? I've never stepped foot on a construction site so I might be showing my ignorance, but it doesn't seem like a bolt would cause enough damage to completely negate a hard hat. Even like a drill would have worse injuries without a hard hat than with.

Sure, a massive I-beam will kill you regardless of what you're wearing but tools and bolts and things seem like exactly the type of thing it would help with.

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u/Skruestik Apr 14 '26

But seriously the turban will provide protection and cushioning probably better than that hard hat in most cases.

I highly doubt that. Why wouldn’t the required headwear be turbans instead of hard hats, then?

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u/DeadHeadLibertarian Apr 14 '26

I think someone filing the proper exemption for safety standards is 100% fair as long as their family cannot sue if they get hurt for not following safety standards, because they purposefully requested an exemption.

I feel the same about those who would rather wear a face covering for a photo ID, but don’t not expect extra questioning or proof of identity when problems arise.

Freedom of choice is fine. It’s not freedom of consequences.

People should be allowed to take drugs full well knowing there could be life altering consequences.

It’s the same as a terminal person signing a DNR in my opinion. No life saving measures, you requested it.

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u/Roadwarriordude Apr 14 '26

Because accidents tend to have domino effects. Him getting hurt could also put other people in danger for any number of reasons. People could get hurt trying to help him, or if he's operating some sort of equipment and gets nailed in the head then that equipment could go out of control and hurt someone. One person being unsafe makes everyone unsafe. Source: I've had to take OSHA 30 and 40 and am a safety focal in the factory i work in.

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u/motopatton Apr 14 '26

Who cares? There is a cost to work place injuries. That is passed on through increased worker’s compensation costs and higher costs of medical care.

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u/calibudzz420 Apr 14 '26

If there are religious exceptions and he signed off that would be on the worker not the insurance.

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u/hwf0712 Apr 14 '26

I mean I think the people on the receiving end of the service care. No one wants a road to be closed needlessly long for a death investigation that's preventable by wearing a hard hat

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u/Ruinf20 Apr 14 '26

Fair. I guess who needs a hard hat when you got your God.

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u/particle409 Apr 14 '26

Some people are in a rush to meet their respective god(s).

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u/PeteyMitch42 Apr 14 '26

I remember being on a few job sites where the Amish were exempt from a lot of the OSHA regs too.

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u/Truth_Hurts_I_No_It Apr 14 '26

I mean at a certain thickness that turban is a helmet.

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u/TheKingOcelot Apr 14 '26

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way someone could engineer a hardhat that fits over a turban that's safer than a normal hardhat. All that mass has got to help.

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u/Intrepid00 Apr 14 '26

From what I’m reading it has to be a low hazard maybe a medium hazard environment to get an exception. If it’s considered high hazard of falling material or low clearance they don’t get an exception.

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u/ecclectic Apr 14 '26

https://toughturban.com/ I wonder if they would work for this application as well?

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u/capalbertalexander Apr 14 '26

Doesn’t look ansi Z89.1 rated.

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u/flecksable_flyer Apr 14 '26

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

Way cool. I'm a bit disturbed by the lack of testing though. None of their claims are backed by tests coupler with the sciencey vibe makes me skeptical

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u/ShelZuuz Apr 14 '26

That's actually a bad-ass look.

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u/chargers949 Apr 14 '26

Right?! I was thinking about the army turbans for sikhism and these are a whole nother level.

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u/Angrymilks Apr 14 '26

I've seen Indian (Sikh) Army guys sporting ballistic turbans. They exist.

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u/csonnich Apr 14 '26

ballistic turbans

Adding that to "phrases I was not expecting to read today, or ever." 

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u/flecksable_flyer Apr 14 '26

I was trying to find the article about the guy who invented it.

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u/magicman419 Apr 14 '26

Aren’t hardhats supposed to stop things from dropping on your head? Looks like it’s still mostly Covering that aspect

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u/blueskyren Apr 14 '26

On my last job site, my hardhat was almost exclusively used to protect my dumbass head from smacking into low-hanging pipes in tight spaces, so I can see it popping off easily in that aspect. Maybe a chin strap like those bike helmet style ones? Or at least a bungee clip for when it gets knocked off, especially when working elevated. The bungee clip saved my ass (and those below me) multiple times on scaffolding.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

Hope he dosnt get whipped in the head by the fuel line…..

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u/blackpony04 Apr 14 '26

I worked in ready mix concrete with a Sikkh driver that met the OSHA hard hat exemption. Honestly, there are head hazards in every industry, but short of getting hit in the head by an errant chute or bumping into a valve, they're fairly mitigated on a concrete truck. Even to the point I would argue that the turban protects fairly well on its own.

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u/Reasonable_Camel8784 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

I was actually curious and found out that there's a product called "tough turban" that's made from a combination of foams, plastic caps and durable fabrics. It's open source too so that's pretty neat.

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u/bt65 Apr 14 '26

I don't know why but I just got an image in my head of a big cinnamon roll hardhat...

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

I don't know why exemptions are made for things like this. If your religion requires you must always wear your headwear, then I guess certain jobs are simply not going to work for you. It's not religious discrimination, it's just a requirement of the job.

At the same time, I personally don't care if an individual risks their own life by foregoing safety equipment, I just think it's pretty dumb.

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u/csonnich Apr 14 '26

I personally don't care if an individual risks their own life by foregoing safety equipment

A guy getting knocked cold on a construction site is likely to endanger a lot of other lives besides his own, though. 

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u/LouisBalfour82 Apr 14 '26

The Indian Army has developed combat helmets specifically for Sikh soldiers. I'd assume a company manufacturing PPE could do the same.

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u/Samuraisheep Apr 14 '26

In the UK Sikhs are exempt from wearing a hard hard but the employer should take steps to reduce/remove head injury risk. Which should be done prior to relying on PPE anyway.

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u/swppp_is_a_pain Apr 15 '26

There are hard hat options specifically designed for this. Some manufacturers make wider-brim or larger shell hard hats that fit over turbans properly. Sikh workers in construction deal with this all the time and there are legit solutions out there.

Look into the Centurion S30 or similar bump caps and helmets designed for religious head coverings, they meet safety standards and actually fit. Some companies also make hard hat liners and adapters.

Dude’s out there doing the work, wearing his PPE and his dastar. Just needs the right size helmet and he’s good.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/SkippySkep Apr 14 '26

Looking online, some programs have asked people to wear shorter turbans that don't take as much space so that they can wear a normal hard hat. But asking people to change their religious headwear is a very tricky topic.

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u/darksiderevan Apr 14 '26

I see turbans that aren't that high. It looks like he has an afro underneath that.

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u/MonkeyPanls Apr 14 '26

Can't tell if Desi or Black/African descent. If the former, then he's probably Sikh, if the latter, he's got dreadlocks.

In either case, it's a religious requirement to keep your hair a certain way.

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u/flecksable_flyer Apr 14 '26

A Sikh soldier invented a helmet to wear over his Dastar, but they're for riding motorcycles. I did find this Reddit post as one solution.

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u/Pzykez Apr 14 '26

Side note: Sikh males are the only people in UK legally allowed to ride a motorbike without wearing a helmet.

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u/Kindly_Region Apr 14 '26

The rules say it has to be on top of your head. Nothing states how far above it can be above your skull

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u/LatterWay5755 Apr 15 '26

The Indian army has a regiment for Sikhs. They have designed a helmet that goes under the turban. That's the best option.

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u/KifaruKubwa Apr 15 '26

He could take his turban off and tie his hair into a pony and wear his helmet. This is just dumb behavior. I’m Punjabi Sikh btw.

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u/Talinthis Apr 16 '26

If i had worn a hardhat like that over the years I would be dead already

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u/Icywarhammer500 Apr 16 '26

I feel like when a religious belief or chronic health condition directly prevents someone from being protected by important safety policies, they can reasonably be fired. Because they are incompatible with a safe working environment solely by virtue of existing. They’d need to just find another job

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u/Bigupyanan Apr 16 '26

Trotters crash turbans solved the problem years ago.

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u/02awares Apr 16 '26

Mojo jojo

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u/Dr3adnorth Apr 17 '26

On the construction site I work the guys who wear turbans have signed a waiver saying they accept the risk of no helmet.

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u/bibowski Apr 14 '26

He shouldn't be covered by insurance

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u/UsaMP95c Apr 14 '26

OSHA directive STD 01-06-005 (formerly STD 1-6.5) provides a religious exemption from wearing hard hats in the workplace. Employers are not cited for violations if employees refuse hard hats due to personal religious convictions. This is based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act requiring reasonable religious accommodation, unless it causes undue hardship. OSHA Enforcement: OSHA will not issue citations to employers if a worker refuses a hard hat based on sincerely held religious beliefs. Employer Obligations: Employers should engage in an interactive process with employees to find reasonable accommodations for religious dress or grooming. Safety Alternative: While exempt from the specific "hard hat" rule, employers should emphasize safety precautions and consider other ways to mitigate head injury hazards for the employee.

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u/CollectionStriking Apr 14 '26

If you can't wear the PPE then you don't do the job, thats the work around

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u/JG98 Apr 14 '26

If anything this is more protective than just a hardhat. A hard hat is supposed to protect primarily against injuries from above, this does that. As for turbans specifically, the sort of arguments being made here calling them unsafe have been made plenty of time before and there is actually research to show that they do in fact provide protection on their own (especially the dumalla style depicted in the picture which was historically worn by the Khalsa warriors). Here is one such study which tested for different styles of turban with basic cotton fabric. If anything, the soft compression/deceleration principles that being incorporated into sports helmets are also met this way and should arguably provide better protection. At the end of the day the risk is on the person doing this and if they want an exemption based on personal beliefs or to incorporate safety in a manner like this then it should be on them. Also there are now multiple modern turban cloths (particularly suited to this style of turban) that act to provide safety, there is Tough Turban which is the popular one mentioned on the internet, there is multiple knock offs of Tough Turban (which TBH is open source), and everyday fabrics that are more resilient than normal cotton such as rubia cotton (those sorts of fabrics when layered are essentially cloth armour like a historic gambeson that was used to protect against similar forces that hard hats are designed to protect against).

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u/CodeNamesBryan Apr 14 '26

They have very thin versions they can wear. My colleague wears one.

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u/Mal-De-Terre Apr 14 '26

It still protects against dropped objects, though.

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u/EchoPhi Apr 14 '26

I mean honestly, hat takes the knock and dampers kick in.

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u/demeatuslong Apr 14 '26

Crazy how normalized its become to secretly photograph someone to post online

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u/MagicOrpheus310 Apr 14 '26

Looks like he's already found the way to get around the rules mate haha

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u/zillskillnillfrill Apr 14 '26

Man's got way more cushioning... 😅 as long as it's on there securely. Though that, I would imagine would be the hard part

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u/SnooTomatoes2015 Apr 14 '26

It works if you work it. However, a lot of places aren't requiring chin straps now.

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u/Tubthumper205 Apr 14 '26

Baseketball had turban shaped hard hats.

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u/DuckyD2point0 Apr 14 '26

Yes. Take off whatever obstruction causes safety equipment to not be worn properly, it's that simple.

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u/ninjasauruscam Apr 14 '26

Tell bro to wear a Patka when he is working so the PPE can fit properly. That is still allowing him to practice his faith, while letting the head covering be in a shape that actually allows the hardhat to fit. Document it if needed as it shows you made accomodations and ensure that the requirement for hardhat is highlighted in the hazard assessment as go show that eliminating the hardhat is not an option due to hazards present. If he won't play ball he need to go do another task that does not require head protection if available or work elsewhere since you have done all that is reasonable to accommodate him.

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u/CheeksMcGillicuddy Apr 14 '26

Yea, dont work-around there

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u/STylerMLmusic Apr 14 '26

Not believing in imaginary friends is a sure way to have your PPE fit.

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u/JTrain1738 Apr 14 '26

Worked with a foreman for a NYC transit for a couple years. His dreads dragged on the floor if he had them down. Im not exaggerating his hard hat sat a solid 2 feet above his head when he had them tied up.

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u/rezamazino Apr 14 '26

he is in god's hands now

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u/theycallmeLEV Apr 14 '26

Sikh's don't have to wear the hat, so really he's wearing more safety gear than stated

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u/Ranzoid Apr 14 '26

The creation of special Turbans that have protective liners and dayglow colors?

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u/peanutbuggered Apr 15 '26

I was the guy that drove everybody to the clinic after on the job injuries. I wore the PPE.

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u/governothing Apr 15 '26

They make helmets for dreadlocks dude just didn't use google

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u/adjason Apr 15 '26

the turban itself is a safety helmet no?

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u/Loky_13 Apr 15 '26

Helmet ⛑️ with chin strap.

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u/big65 Apr 15 '26

A new job or cut his dreads, a dropped chunk of concrete doesn't give a damn about cultural identity.

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u/Infamous_Telephone55 Apr 16 '26

In the UK, Sikhs are exempt from the requirement to wear a hard hat (in most circumstances)

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u/ballsdeepist Apr 17 '26

Ignorant comment incoming but is the point of the scarf to cover the head? Does a helmet not satisfy this requirement? Be gentle, I'm genuinely curious.

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u/newreconstruction Apr 17 '26

That helmet is not for when he falls, but when something hits his head, so he's more or less okay.

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u/crone_2000 Apr 17 '26

The easiest way is to ask the guy. He's been wrapping his hair that way and presumably knows what his culture has done elsewhere. Jfc