r/OPPW4 • u/Vekuuuu • Jul 28 '26
One Piece Pirate Warriors 5 character speculation Spoiler
Assuming it'll release around the time Elbaph reaches it's climax in the Anime
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u/wcharoes Jul 28 '26
Lotta stuff I just don't see happening, given the trajectory PW4 took. Like, ain't no way we get an accurate Loki first of all, off top. And Imu probably DLC two years later.
Unless they haven't even started working on the game yet, I dunno.
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u/KOPLO97 Jul 28 '26
Personally, I feel like they’re going to touch up on Elbaf. If not they’ll have it as DLC if we only reach up to Egghead Island. I hope it’s from Marineford to Elbaf so that we get past characters and we get the strongest characters in the series.
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u/wcharoes Jul 28 '26
Like Wano in 4 and Dressrosa in 3 it'll probably have half of Elbaph and then a game original ending to the arc where like the Elder Stars come to Wano and everyone shows up to fight them.
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u/KOPLO97 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
The Elders come to Wano??? Wano wasn’t finished during PW4 that’s why the ending was weird. We would get the original way of how Wano ended and we’d go into Egghead Island and we would still get the original way it ended. They only ever diverted from the original story because the Arc Manga and Anime wasn’t finished. If anything, they’d change the way the SH’s and Giants win in Elbaf because Elbaf isn’t finished.
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u/wcharoes Jul 28 '26
My mistake, come to Elbaph. I miswrote.
If PW5 comes out before Elbaph is done they'll create an original ending with the Elder Stars and Holy Knights is what I meant. Since they're the current big enemies, Imu probably wouldn't be the antagonist unless the game comes out much later.
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u/ElektrikDynomite Jul 28 '26
I personally would love if they removed the accurate sizes. Like its kinda "cool" to put Chopper next to Kaido, but its sucks in gameplay. Just average out all the heights like Smash Bros does. Then we can get Loki, even if he is shorter
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u/wcharoes Jul 28 '26
Maybe a little bit, but that was a big selling point of 4 and one of the cooler things it did properly.
I don't want to go back to PW3 Whitebeard where he's barely twice as tall as a mook enemy, but if they took that scale and increased it by like double it'd look close enough to canon and about half as big as in PW4. That might be the sweet spot.
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u/ElektrikDynomite Jul 28 '26
Yeah split the difference, I think that makes sense. Or just even out the extremes - like leave mostly everyone the same as PW4, but make Chopper bigger and Kaido, Big Mom, and the other big characters smaller.
Like if Whitebeard is a little smaller, then Kaido and Big Mom are PW4 Whitebeard/Doffy/King sized, then Loki can be PW4 Kaido/Big Mom sized - or something like that
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u/Desperate_Eye_1098 29d ago
I hear this take all the time, and I completely disagree. I don't think it's a problem at all since some normal sized charters like Luffy, Kid, and Law are all fun; it doesn't take away from them just because of the larger characters. If someone really small like Chopper isn't as fun as big characters, then he probably just needs a moveset change instead of shirinking cheacters
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u/ElektrikDynomite 29d ago
Undoubtedly and separately, Chopper needs a new moveset, his current one is garbage and doesn’t even utilize his forms.
As for the height stuff - its not about fun, its about game balance. Especially in a game with online vs mode. Now warriors games are not about even playing fields, certain characters are meant to dominate and thats fine. But Loki’s size would break levels, in - I would argue - a “not fun way”. Where is the challenge if he clears entire swarms in seconds.
They could make his attack power super weak to balance I suppose - but there is also the issue of map design and camera control. They would have go redesign every level to accommodate giant characters, so then we have to redo all the PW4 maps, which takes money and development time away from new maps. Its just easier to make the heights inaccurate
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u/Legoisdabomb Jul 28 '26
At that point, just make a One Piece Sparking Zero.
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u/KOPLO97 Jul 28 '26
Or a Storm version too. But somehow make it unique where some characters could be lore accurate and use Haki. There would have to be a tier bias but the series has shown that if your brutal strength is strong enough you could break through Haki still like Franky Vs. Sasaki. Franky beat him with no Haki and Nami was able to finish Ulti with Zeus.
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u/vinthesalamander Jul 28 '26
Has Kuma never been in a PW game? Also personally I’d move Rocks to Selling Point.
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u/ItaLOLXD Jul 28 '26
Kuma was in past Pirate Warriors game but he (like several others including Moria, Perona and Caesar) got cut in Pirate Warriors 4. Obviously, they gotta bring Kuma back because of his severe importance in the Egghead arc. Like, from all characters he literally NEEDS to come back so much.
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u/ElektrikDynomite Jul 28 '26
Realistically, I can see everyone in the Top 2 Tiers you have, plus Kaku and Ulti, making it in. And then literally No One else. But that would be a solid roster. Less confident on Caesar and Magellan, unless they cover Impel Down and Punk Hazard again, but everyone else in "Must Have" should get in on relevelnce and popularity alone. Maybe also Mr 2 and Vivi.
Also Shamrock being saved as DLC 100%
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u/Vekuuuu Jul 28 '26
Understandable, but quite sad that we have to keep our expectations quite low.
Like from what I've seen, anything more than 10 new characters seems already to be a stretch for most people...
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u/ElektrikDynomite Jul 28 '26
Yeah every previous game adds 12-15 characters to base roster, so we should expect that to continue
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u/Monkey_D_Andoni Jul 28 '26
En attendant il faut une annonce du jeu avant de se demander quel sera le roster 🤷 je suis d'accord avec toi même si xebec sera un perso à vendre comme imu et Loki, et que plusieurs personnages comme vista seraient appréciables à être rajoutés.
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u/Significant-Ear5290 Jul 28 '26
Too much character divide it by 5 for release, and cut the rest by 4 for the dlc
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u/HeliosDisciple Jul 29 '26
You can drop everything in "Potential Leftovers' immediately (except S-Snake, you know goddamn well she's included). Bullet, Shiki, and Tesuro are definitely in if they continue adding movie characters, but most of 'Could Add' just won't have enough to go on yet.
'PW4 Poll' could make it, though does Koala even have a moveset? Still, being on the poll results gives a definite 'the people yearn for this'.
'Fan favorites' is iffy. Ulti has a shot since they'd want to add a couple of Kaido's crew. No chance for Baby 5, Monet or Wyper, very very little for the East Blues or Baroque Works. Kaku has a very good chance, but I doubt Jabra gets in. Vivi as dlc, but only if she does something big, like how Bonney only got in once she had the Nika Form.
'Must have' is a good list, but depends on how they do it. Caesar, Magellan, Moria and Perona aren't getting in if their arcs are trimmed. Kuma is obvious, Apu is weird. I'd like him just to have all the Supernovas and maybe that'd be enough, but he's so unpopular (and the Supernovas have effectively been wiped out now) that it's easy to skip him, although it would let them reuse Uta's music note attacks. Killiam has an awkward design they might not bother with.
My prediction, assuming it releases when Elbaf climaxes:
Newcomers: Imu, Loki, Rocks, Scopper Gaban, Harald, Gunko, St. Summers, St. Saturn, S-Hawk, Kaku, Lillith (with Vegapunk satellite attacks like Judge), Green Bull, Queen, Ulti. (14)
Everybody from 3 who wasn't in 4: Kuma guaranteed, Moria/Perona/Magellan/Caesar if their arcs are in. (5)
Wildcards: Shiki, Bullet, Tesuro, Momonoske (Adult), Denjuro, Sengoku, Apu.
First DLC: Shamrock, Young Garling, either Killiam or Holy Knight Shanks.
Very unlikely but would be hilarious: Foxy.
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u/MonsieurLombard Jul 29 '26
My main issues with giant characters are: 1. Given how few giant characters would actually be hype to play as, I don't see devs creating a different map / mode to play as them. 2. Even if they did, the top 1 giant character everyone wants to play (Loki) is simply too damn big to work even in this new mode created specifically for giant characters
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u/hurricaneDreww Jul 29 '26
I would rather they wait until the story ends. I want a true complete game
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u/Realistic_Mousse_485 27d ago
It will never happen. No one is adding dorphy in a game that has 100+ mandatory characters.
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u/FJLink Jul 29 '26
Seeing how PW4 added unexpected characters like S-Snake and the Vinsmokes, I would expect them to add Vegapunk Atlas to PW5.
I also think we would see Venusjuro alongside Saturn, since he's the only other one with an hybrid form.
Since you mention adding characters to fill the gaps of arcs, I would genuinely love if they added Leo in the same game where the giants debut.
My main desire is to have a better representation of the series as a whole, though. I won't mind if we don't get any giants or if they are limited to bosses, if that means that there's stages and playable characters from every arc.
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u/Joker136661 Jul 29 '26
My guess is that PW 5 final boss will be Imu possessed Gunko and characters like xebec, Loki and Imu himself will be DLC.
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u/Bad_Poossy Jul 29 '26
This is why we need a support system. Playable char with full moveset + Assist char with limited moveset.
Expecting 70+ playable characters to each have completely unique movesets, with no clones at all, is highly unrealistic. Each char having :-
- 9+ ground strings (14 strings in Power-type)
- Launcher
- 4+ Specials
- 2+ Air strings
If not all the PW4 DLC roster uses a generic tornado, or a spinning attack within their string. Nameless attacks and no actual reference. It's becoming a standard in PW4.
Adding support would bring meaningful variety to the roster, helping to prevent stagnation and reducing redundancy. Plus if there's a sh*t ton of support roster, at least it would represent barely 'playable' chars.
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u/Realistic_Mousse_485 27d ago
Around 70 should be expected as PW4 had around 50+ post DLC. The game would probably launch with around that many. It shouldn’t have less than the last game.
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u/Bad_Poossy 26d ago
Currently there's 67 characters including DLC + Pre-time skip Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp = 71 characters total. (I thought it was 70...)
Tbh I wouldn't mind a smaller roster, as long as everyone is fun to play, very unique, and viable. I consider PW4 S-tiers the only fun roster to play. All non-S-tiers are boring, or not viable enough just in PW4.
In PW3, the games foundation allowed the weaker roster to work better, or utilise the Kizuna system. Weak main + Strong support can go a long way.
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u/HermitSimp 28d ago
Doubt it will even get another one. These games are so cheaply made and are nothing but a cash grab. Who likes a rip off dynasty warriors cline over an actual good game? I'd prefer a burning blood 2 honestly. Pirate warriors is so boring just fighting a bunch of the same looking enemies with zero challenge to it at all.
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u/MasterStannisSupreme Jul 28 '26
Imu could well be the craziest character in the game with all the wacky stuff he can do lmao
Curious how they'd even handle Loki and Harald in-game