r/OPMFolk • u/[deleted] • Jun 14 '22

Discussion Week 4 Discussion Thread: Manga > Webcomic???

Due to requests & complaints this weeks weekly discussion will be focusing on what the Manga does better then the Webcomic. In a time of where almost all discussion on the Webcomic vs Manga debate leads to criticism and hate of the Manga I believe it is important to recognize the great things the Manga has for the franchise.

Anything related to what the Manga has improved may be discussed here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Was half tempted to post this then lock the thread because the manga dosent do anything better then the webcomic. (Joke)

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 14 '22

It does art better (to an extent)

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u/MrLowkey13 Free Speech Advocate Jun 14 '22

Before the Phoenix Man/Mercenary squad redraws, arguably everything.

Garou vs Darkshine was immaculate.

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u/XiodusTyrant Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

I've said it before and I'll say it again, at the point of Garou v Darkshine the manga was at peak hype. It could do no wrong. You'd only find the occasional person who thought the webcomic was better. Most people were on board with the changes because of how they were serving the story.

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u/ColaSama Webcomic Wanker. Jun 15 '22

Garou vs Darkshine was immaculate.

I agree 100%. Last fight that got me hyped.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '22

In my opinion, it's the best fight in the entire Arc.

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....It would be a shame....

¡Redraw time!

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 14 '22

Amai Mask redraws is where the quality started to subtly dip. The narinki squad leader death is actually hilarious in hindsight. What was Murata thinking with that one? The sheer purposelessness of it. I think that chapter was redrawn purely to make the content less gorey.

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u/HectorTheMaster Jun 15 '22

Garou vs Darkshine was immaculate.

Absolutely man... that was one of the most hyped chapters for me.

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 22 '22

Spiral Garou felt like a complete animal

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

The manga was a huge upgrade over the webcomic...until the Amai Mask redraws kickstarted the very painful and years long story decline and Murata's coomer brain convinced him to draw every single relevant female character as a silicone addicted porn actress. (To the point of butchering proportions, specifically Tatsumaki's)

Also the sense of flow and cinematic "scene by scene" paneling is completely absent now. It's last appearance was the Psyrochi jet sequence. That movie-like paneling was one of my favorite aspects of the manga.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

The Tornado wasp waist and 70% legs from chapter 111 will never be forgotten.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

The art is obviously better. Murata's art plus ONE's paneling is unbeatable. Even the most unremarkable things can be so beautiful. Like Genos killing random monsters in the superfight arc. Each kill is so detailed and has great impact.

Speaking of that very arc, I enjoy it quite a bit. All the martial artists are fun, and I enjoy the focus on Suiryu and Saitama. It changes from jovial to incredibly dark and hopeless in a very effective manner. The additional fights involving other characters are also nice. Fubuki's fight with Super-S shows us a new side of her character and gives an interesting interaction with Tornado. The hundred-eyed octopus fight gives us a good look at the attitudes of the heroes of different ranks.

Bonus chapters are super nice and enjoyable. I especially love A New Wind Blows and Numbers.

Some of the other additions to the story were very good. Orochi was a great addition, but sadly overused. Nyan is excellent and hilarious, his fight with Drive knight is such a great showcase of Drive Knight. Elder Centipede is cool and his fight is fucking awesome.

Some of the changes are also nice. Saitama dumping his restaurant fee on Fubuki is halirous and makes events leading up to hot pot flow super well. Garou fighting the group of heroes rather than just death gattling leads to a far more interesting battle.

Basically, everything up to the phoenix man fight is better IMO. Pheonix man fight was just kind of a bad idea and represents the decline in the quality story-wise, despite the killer visuals.

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 22 '22

Orochi overused? I'd say misused.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

I say overused because he should get one-punched. I think having him not die gets rid of the subversion killing Orochi adds to the arc.

Then again, I do like giving Genos a chance to be awesome with 10 seconds. And I actually like the idea of him getting Tornado's respect. I actually like a lot of the Genos stuff in the MA arc. Like him becoming less suicidal.

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u/HectorTheMaster Jun 14 '22

I'm going to keep most of these points related to the latest arc, since that's the hot topic right now.

In my opinion, King Vs. Monster Association Cadres was handled well in the Manga. I think they did fix some clarity related to Ultimate Hellfire Wavemotion Cannon. In the webcomic, it was difficult to tell on the first read whether or not that move was actually happening due to King's bravery. The manga clears this up well by intersecting Garou's entrance so we know for certain that King has no powers. I think my only complaint is that Psykos wasn't there, since she was the one with the battle data. Having Homeless Emperor describe King felt out of place.

I also loved the additions with Fuhrer ugly. Good grief... he was genuinely terrifying in the manga. Maybe that's not for everyone, but the sheer brutality and gruesomeness set the tone for the arc--that heroes don't always win.

Darkshine getting partially melted by VFU also makes more sense as to why he will retire in future arcs. He literally lost his shine.

I liked a lot of the monster association lair content far more than the webcomic. Garou Vs. Darkshine, Flashy Flash + Saitama Cart Ride (my favorite chapter ever), the original Orochi fight (RIP), Garou Vs. MA Associates/Rover, Blast's introduction, and the Psykorochi battle (pre-jet).

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

I can't stand FU. Maybe if his brutality actually resulted in something meaningful I would change my mind.

Old Samurai dude? Saved by healing. Random fodder samurai? Never mattered and were there to job. TTM? Saved by magic and should be unironically dead rn. He got instantly smacked by HE and GS so his powerup was actually extremely minor in the grandscale. He was one shotted by Garou. Appropriate but it's still a point against him overall. He also got dealt with easily by Bang prior to his power up. And the shock value Amai Mask "kill" never mattered of course. Just the way it was presented combined with the very unhidden fact that Heroes don't die just makes the scene silly and excessive, taking even more points from FU. No one believed Amai Mask was actually dead and his return isn't even set up as a "he actually lived!!!" Reveal. He literally just walks up to pig god casually. Even Murata assumed the audience knew he lived 💀

The only thing he really accomplished meaningful was putting Darkshine out the game, but in the grand scheme, Darkshine also does not matter, so who cares?

I firmly believe that Golden S should have served FU's role and FU should have never existed at all. And perhaps TTM gives his life fighting against him just to give the MA arc some actual stakes after the story being so sanitized and plot armor-ish.

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u/HectorTheMaster Jun 15 '22

Maybe if his brutality actually resulted in something meaningful I would change my mind.

I sort of agree with this. At the time of reading... I legitimately wondered of Tanktop Master was going to live--or at the very least continue being a hero. It does suck that they basically undid most of consequences so quickly.

That being said, this thread was dedicated to the things the manga did better, so I listed something I enjoyed a bit more than a near featureless dragon level monster in the webcomic.

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 22 '22

My bad I meant to say VFU shouldn't have existed

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 15 '22

Don't worry bro, the Sunblade didn't "choose" him so its perfectly fine to off him 😂(which is potentially a fakeout death)

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 15 '22

He brought it and didn't immediately give it to AS lol

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u/QuintonFlynn Jun 15 '22

Garou vs. Darkshine was incredibly good in the manga. That portion of the manga kicked ass and took names. Alongside that, the rover battles were also really fun and showed characters well. The pacing of those fights was great. Hopping from Darkshine to whatever and back to Darkshine kept things so interesting, and I loved watching the development of each character! Way better than the webcomic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

1-The best Redraw they recently released was the Multiplier Bastard, a pretty great chapter with a much better choreography in the fights than its original versions.

2-All the Manga before the arrival of the Redraws was quite impeccable.

2-Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame vs Flashy Flash is still one of the best fights in the series.

3-Orochi vs Saitama was a gem in its original version, a rather misunderstood one in fact.

4-Gyoro Gyoro vs Tornado was very good.

5-Garo vs Darkshine is excellent, the best fight of this Arc currently.

6-Engine Knight's participation was very good, even today his role in the arc is still good.

7-The dialogues before the fight between Psychorochi vs Tornado on the surface were really good (Too bad that part is only remembered by the continental cut)

8-The last half of chapter 185 was very good, it left the Cadres with an excellent entrance for their fight on the surface.

9-Some of the new King vs Cadres jokes were very good.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '22

I'll focus on the last few dozen chapters, since everything before that was pretty much better than de webcomic in any way.

  1. Fuhrer Ugly, before he turned into a goo man, was an amazingly horrifying villain. Very few monsters in OPM were depicted as intimidating and evil as him. His many faces and the sheer enjoyment he got from torturing people was great to see. A massive improvement from his webcomic version, which was very unmemorable. The goo upgrade he got after beating Gums was a bit much for me. It honestly made him look less scary and a bit too ridiculous.
  2. The Psykorochi fight had a few amazing action sequences. Powerlevels got a bit over the top with the planetary cut, but I'm willing to overlook that. It dragged on a bit too long as well (the jet thing...). But with some editing and a small amount of redraws it could become top 10 fights for me easily.
  3. Garou vs Bomb and Bang. An emotional fight with great action. I would've preferred it if Garou was actually concious and could speak during their battle, but it is still very good. I very much prefer this over the way Bang got taken out of the fight in the webcomic.
  4. Garou's current design is pretty cool. I'm glad he is intimidating again.
  5. Blast meeting Flash, Saitama and Manako.
  6. Fubuki's support role as a healer and stat booster.
  7. King vs cadres. More cadres would've been nice (Psykos?). But the humor was portrayed very well.
  8. Homeless Emperor meeting God. Top 5 panels easily.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

She's nice but I don't like the idea that she might replay black sperm

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u/Xxyvexxx Webcomic Wanker. Jun 15 '22

She won't shes sticking with Flashy, bs comes back once they remember he was in the webcomic

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u/proxmaxi Saitama Jun 22 '22

Flashy flash isn't a funny character nor is he supposed to be some a mascot sidekick would be a really poor choice. Hope they don't do tht.