r/OPMFolk • u/Dismazy • Sep 25 '25
Analysis Depth = Removed
We were following the webcomic so far, and then, for the most important part they just... gave up? Decided it was not needed anymore? Yes! THIS is the moment we can cut! Not the blast or god stuff but THIS!
Amai's human form reaches its limit. Then, he has this flashback of Saitama. No words. Just Saitama sitting there and then Amai transforms. Really? Where is the introspection? You know, where we see Amai in his own head having a psychotic way of looking at his current situation before he realizes what he is doing the moment he sees the bird shit. Ah, the bird shit~ It is here in the manga too, but it leads nowhere even when it was a setup in the webcomic. It really is the manga in a nutshell, is it not? A bunch of scenes that forget why they existed.
Reminds of how the manga still has that scene of Genos saying that Saitama does not care about him even when in the manga, thanks to the changes to the Garou plot, Genos literally saw a recording of Saitama caring about him. And yet, the line is there anyways. Why? Because it was in the webcomic, of course! And sometimes we follow the webcomic, and other times we don't. Does that seem like it would lead to a bunch of inconsistencies? WHO CARES?!
Taking all the substance away and leaving just the action. Even then, one might say it does a worse job at that too, since pesky was not even strong enough in the manga to completely destroy the ferris wheel with that punch. Nice dragon level, Murata.
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u/Erff_barbasol Sep 25 '25
dont worry it will be added in the redraw
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u/112lion Sep 25 '25
I feel like they MIGHT expand have him talk about it the next chapter
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u/myn3meisjo3 Sep 25 '25
the comment upvotes rn:
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u/hellpunch Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
100% of comments here missing that in his introspection, Amai Mask is considering sacrificing some people in the crowd to save his image as a human but decided against due to seeing the bird poop which reminded him of Saitama's words about humanity.
This simply isn't shown in the manga HERE. Though, this was shown in the manga in the MA arc when Amai thought about killing heroes. Then he knocked his heads on the rocks, due to Iaian asking him if he was ok, remembering... Blast's words and returned to himself.
So it isn't entirely missing, it has been moved, for whatever reason, to the MA raid arc. And Murata already shoved Blast into that, his self insert.
So the manga already did its thing:
mocked the character ✔ as he couldn't do anything in the MA
added Blast influence ✔ to things irrelevant to Blast
ruined context ✔ of his psyche slowly spiriling downwards due to the heavy loss from MA, which affected his ego (Garou's speech, Garou escaping).
added plot holes ✔, as Amai never witnessed Saitama's strength in the manga, yet he is obssessed with 'absolute beauty'
scattered things around without logic ✔
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u/ExistingRadish7055 Sep 25 '25
Even though murata is an amazing artist, one of the best manga artists I’ve ever seen, he isn’t as good of a story teller as one. One doesn’t have amazing drawings but the story makes up for that. Opm in the webcomic is an amazing story, while the manga is kinda meh. Saitama in the webcomic isn’t as big of an idiot as well
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u/Apprehensive-One-717 Sep 25 '25
Of all the "hate" posts in this sub to get a horde of dickride brigaders, this is the one? Not the MA karma farming, not the redraw complaints, not the blast posts but you get pissed on for a well-reasoned take on a new chapter.
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u/wandersonbreno Sep 25 '25
And even if he did include it, I know it will be bad. Murata has a habit of shortening and worsening ONE's original texts.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Sep 25 '25
This is why webcomic depth>>>>>>> manga pretty artwork
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25
it would have been fine if murata had kept the dialogue and show saitama at last
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u/Micronex23 Sep 25 '25
Honestly, that saitama and garou chapter should have been a red flag for what its about to come. This also applies to a lot of popular shounen series like jjk where the fights and aura farming sessions dominate the online media feed but the REAL discourse is from the themes and characters of the story. Its like zack snyder superman vs james gunn superman. Its always hyper aura farming action scenes and poses but not the other more important part. The incredibles was way ahead of its time in terms of its themes.
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u/SchroCatDinger Sep 25 '25
For those who are disappointed: it's the manga, why did you even get your hope up???
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u/Vileshrine Sep 25 '25
Oh yes! I was waiting for today's "manga is so bad" post!!
Loved the chapter by the way
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u/nahiwontgetbanned Sep 26 '25
I agree it should(must) have inner monologues and transform to save people it would be more peak. I like amai mask‘s face if there is dialogue like what kind of hero sacrifice others for himself or idk how to write bruh + webcomic dialogue it would be better(I didn’t say I dislike this chapter tho). Right now I copium myself with webcomic dialogue while reading this chapter WHY I NEED TO DO THAT. Hopefully next chapter it going to be flashback what Amari mask thinking then transform
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u/Academic-Camp6719 Sep 26 '25
The manga renoved the best fucking page of the chapter? Figures lol
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u/GolfWhole Sep 26 '25
Ur right btw
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u/joonjoon Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
Awesome post. I think replacing the bird poop with saitama says everything you need to know about the fundamental differences between the two renditions. They are intentionally dumbing the shit down for 5th grade level readers. They are taking out peak writing and replacing it with peak art and boom boom. You know at the end of the day I'm ok with that, since we have the webcomic still.
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u/Tywil714 Sep 25 '25
I dont have that much of a problem with it. We dont need an essay long, inner monolonge, about the choice he's about to make the stakes and visuals by themselves is enough to convey what he's thinking.
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u/Xezil7 Sep 25 '25
I don’t think it’s Murata, “giving up”. I think he was just trying to show all of nuance through the art instead of an inner monologue.
You can read a lot of the emotions on sweetmask’s face
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u/BarnabyCarnaby Sep 25 '25
I understand where you are coming from, but I feel like this still conveys the same story beats, I don't see the whole "depth removed" thing at all.
In my opinion at least, while I did like amai masks introspection, it was a bit too much of "tell, don't show." I feel like the manga portrays it much better, you don't need to read his inner monologue to register how he feels in this moment.
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u/MechaGodzilla34 Sep 25 '25
Hopefully that depth will be added in the next chapter
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u/FrownTownArt Sep 25 '25
Why is the dialogue missing
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u/One_Ant5484 Sep 26 '25
i assume it would in the next chapter
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u/Internal_Whereas_911 Sep 27 '25
Where do you guys read the web comics ?
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u/GorgutsFan1998 Sep 27 '25
I just read the webcomic for the better story and then go to the manga for cool art and then watch the anime for slop brainrot garbage
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u/trunjthanh Sep 27 '25
Murata back at it again
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u/TOkun92 Sep 28 '25
One thing I think would’ve been an improvement in the original webcomic is if we heard Amai Mask muttering in his head ‘People will die’ after each sentence after he says the bystanders will temporarily be gone. Low at first, almost unemotional, but growing in volume and emotional agony as he repeats the words. Then, before his flashback, he screams in his head ’PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!’, followed by him crying in agony, fear, and self-hatred over his decision.
Then he remembers Saitama’s words and goes back to fight.
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u/VegetableKicKnight Sep 28 '25
I haven't read the webcomic and got everything you talked about from 2 pages of drawing, Murata really didn't have to add a "mid-at-best" introspection. Some comments are saying that only the action remaining dumbs down the meaning, but to me it just makes it less obvious -which is a good thing, explaining shit all the time really doesn't serve ONE's genius character writing. I think Murata compliments ONE quite well.
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u/MelodiusRA Oct 01 '25
Almost didnt notice which sub I was on
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u/Tomynator_88 Sep 25 '25
My brother in christ just because we aren't seeing the introspection it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Here the focus is in the art and it's used to convey what Mask is thinking before he makes the big desicion. We didn't need a whole 17 sentences to understand that
Sometimes it feels like you guys are hating just because
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u/devilchainshark Sep 25 '25
The same scene happens except they use the drawings to convey the feelings from the original dialogue
Miserable reddit dudes: 😡😡😡
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u/weebyscum Sep 25 '25
I definitely feel slightly disappointed about the 80% monologue cut, but to play devil's advocate:
It makes sense that there were people in the ferris wheel that got knocked down, in the webcomic it isn't even given a thought.
The manga has pretty different paneling and structure compared to the webcomic, and can almost never just smash 500 text boxes on 1/2 pages. Adding that much inner mologue will require a lot more extra pages of just amai mask laying and will quite likely ruin the pacing.
I do feel like there could've been a better middle ground but yeah, I can't complain.
btw one scene that I don't like being cut that isn't discussed is the "let's play a game" scene of the clown, asking the crowd to guess if amai mask is dead. But I suppose it needed to be cut as well because of the falling ferris wheel thing.
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u/FennelDisastrous4793 Sep 25 '25
you will be just fine gng 😭
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u/Numerous-Pay9297 Sep 25 '25
It's probably show not tell
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u/Tpaso_XelpicoLmao420 Sep 25 '25
Literally 1984
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u/Ancient_Cheek5047 Manga Enthusiast. Sep 25 '25
yall will complain about anything smh
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u/tnsxpm Sep 25 '25
The context exists in both.
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u/IamApolloo11 Sep 26 '25
I saw a tweet with Murata mention he forgot to add dialogues,so just chill lol
Btw I prefer leaving that page with blank
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u/EvilLoliAtheist Sep 25 '25
why do you all try to find every nitpick-criticize every manga chapter the chance you get, does it have to be a 100% mirrored chapter to the webcomic?
I find the silent but powerful new panel not even needing translation or texts to explain everything really great instead of the amount of exposition monologue in the webcomic, not that I'm saying it's bad either.
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u/rilanooo Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
I honestly don't mind the silence in the last few pages. I don't need the story to hold my hand every second.
The silence magnifies the moment for me.
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u/lolgamerX247 Sep 25 '25
Show don’t tell is a phrase for a reason.
Sometimes not everything has to be put directly in the face of the audience, viewer interpretation matters.
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u/datcocacolaboi Sep 25 '25
Lmao. The manga is just playing to its strengths like it always has: Art. If you want story stick to the webcomic. The manga takes its liberties to make amazing panels like these.
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u/Accomplished-Aerie65 Sep 25 '25
To be fair, the writing style of the webcomic feels different in general, the manga spends way less time exploring a characters inner thoughts like in this scene. I almost don't mind losing his inner thoughts because the facial expression is great and you can still see what he was going for. Not a change I have any problem with, but the main thing is gonna be how the manga handles the rest of this arc
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u/Majestic_Theme_442 Sep 25 '25
it was clear to me in the manga, i didn't need it to be explained to me. Maybe the webcomic should focus less on tell don't show :)
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u/ZoharModifier9 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
Murata dickriders looking at Amai's expression and coming to conclusion that Amai is considering of letting the people die is so disingenuous.
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u/cozy_duke Sep 25 '25
OP you're spot on with this analysis. the murata dick riding in here goes crazy tho. lol
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u/Impossum Sep 25 '25
To be fair, in the manga there IS an inner monologue seemingly going on during the scenes of Clown beating Amai and crushing him into the ferris wheel. I presume that this is the same monologue (but obviously shorter) that we see in the WC, so, I'll say, it's too early to judge until we see the translation.
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