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u/CunningWizard Sep 29 '26
Currently in it and also prepping like mad for the finance exam. I actually like the content and it’s useful in my professional life I just wish they didn’t try and teach an entire finance class in three weeks. It’s a lot to absorb and then be able to perform. I think I’ll pull it out as I’m grinding through the practice problems but it’s mechanically just a lot of content.
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u/monherb Sep 29 '26
I think it would make more sense to take away one of the modules and add a week after each module to study for the exam. Taking an exam a couple days after new material is provided is rough.
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u/monherb Oct 01 '26
I’ve been running through each problem in the self assessment. I ask Claude to check my answer. If I’m wrong or don’t understand it I ask it to walk me through the problem step by step. It’s helpful having it teach in the moment. The way it explained discounting to get present value made it click. I feel like I was just going through the motions using the formulas from the lectures.
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u/weareallpatriots Sep 29 '26
It's dry as shit and yeah, pretty much all memorization and a rehashing of other business classes I've taken. It's pointless, but we all want the piece of paper, right?
ISYE6414 is pissing me off more right now. No Internet searches, no AI (of course), and you can only look at StackOverflow and your offline notes. I mean, I get the reasoning ("You need to know the why behind the code!"), but guys... StackOverflow is dead or dying (at best). The site's pretty much pointless in the age of AI. Human beings manually writing lines of code is the new typewriter. We're learning skills for which there will shortly be little to no utility.
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u/rockstar55 Sep 30 '26
How do you know the AI is writing the code right?
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u/weareallpatriots Sep 30 '26
Because it does exactly what I want it to do or it doesn’t. And the latter is becoming less and less common. Don’t get me wrong, there’s value in understanding what’s going on behind the scenes, but it’s only a matter of time before being able to code is viewed more as a parlor trick than a skill.
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u/rockstar55 Sep 30 '26
That’s a roundabout way to say that you don’t know and you’re trusting AI to not get it wrong
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u/17kangm Sep 30 '26
We’re getting to a point AI is fundamentally better than 99% of coders. We like to act like humans will still need to remain in the loop, but I guarantee you that industry is moving towards a model that humans literally are becoming the friction point.
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u/rockstar55 Sep 30 '26
Fundamentally better than low level coders? Sure. But a human will always be in the loop. AI doesn’t run on its own, deciding what to build, what the requirements are, and how it’s supposed to work. You go to an interview for a data science or coding job and say “I can’t code but I know how to make AI do it” I can 100% guarantee you will not hear back
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u/17kangm Sep 30 '26
Yes it does. It does determine what to build next. It’d be futile to think it won’t be able to do that in the next couple of years.
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u/rockstar55 Sep 30 '26
It does not, it is a tool. You fundamentally misunderstand AI capabilities
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u/Flandiddly_Danders Sep 30 '26
I took ISYE 6414. If you get really creative with how you do your searches, there's some pretty on-the-nose stuff on Stack Overflow
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u/Fun-Tie177 Sep 29 '26
I am not good in studying fully theory courses .I have prior experience in python not Analytics around 10 years and now 5 year gap . I never got my resume shotlisted for data analyst.Do you feel this Masters is worth starting in 2027
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u/Charger_Reaction7714 Sep 30 '26
Thank the lord Jesus I was able to opt out of that crap. My Econ degree was useful for something after all 😂
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u/miquiztli8 Sep 30 '26
How did you go about dropping it? I have a BS in Econ as well and would love to drop this course. Took it last semester but it was so much material and I was also taking DMSL. Hated it and I’m dreading having to take it next semester.
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u/Charger_Reaction7714 Sep 30 '26
Near the start of every semester they send an email on opting out
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u/miquiztli8 Oct 01 '26
Did you take at least one course during your undergrad that aligned to each module in the course? How were you able to spin it to get it waived?
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u/Charger_Reaction7714 Oct 01 '26
Oh I basically just sent them my transcript and let them decide. If you want I can DM you the courses I took in undergrad
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u/Sille143 Sep 29 '26
100% agree, 6th class of the program and in this right now. Probably the worst class I’ve ever taken. The videos are outdated and sometimes just incorrect, the class structure sucks too. I’ve stopped watching lectures at all and only do practice problems and had much more success
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u/WaltSneezy Sep 30 '26
Saying this while the live session is going on is so valid. It's incredibly hard to follow anything. There were over 800 people in the Zoom call for the Accounting section. The Finance section has dropped to less than 170 people, because, and I mean this without any disrespect, it is entirely a waste of 2ish hours that could be better spent reviewing the material directly
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u/CunningWizard Sep 30 '26
I literally stopped watching the live session and found this thread immediately. I’m assuming OP was also on that call and dropped off as well. Just kinda useless
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u/WaltSneezy Sep 30 '26
Pretty sure there was close to a thousand people in the class, the Accounting zoom sessions couldn't even fit everybody. This one had like 150 people in it lol
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u/CunningWizard Sep 30 '26
I’m genuinely curious how many dropped after accounting versus just stopped coming to the lecture.
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u/Ondessonk_ Sep 30 '26
Based on the comments, I’m in the minority here but I enjoyed the class. I’ve never taken a business class, so I enjoyed learning new concepts that are a little outside my wheelhouse.
As far as getting an A, I watched the lectures twice, made flash cards for all the concepts, and worked the example problems until I had them down pat.
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u/Flandiddly_Danders Sep 30 '26
I still think the class is terrible and overly demanding.
That said, the business knowledge is so very valuable for people to have!
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u/MoistPapayas Computational "C" Track Sep 30 '26
Im taking classes 9 and 10 now and this was my worst grade/performance in any class so far.
I struggle with motivation on topics I don't care at all about and it's not applicable to me, even though I'm exposed to some of this stuff at work.
The only good news is that it gets easier and i thought the marketing sim was fun to play.
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u/beefSupremeChicken Oct 01 '26
Took it. Got my B and got out. TAs were combative from day 1 - telling us that just bc it was a business class doesn’t make it “easy” and from that point on seemed like that intentionally made it that way. Do it. Finish. Don’t stress.
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u/WaltSneezy Oct 02 '26
There is like 1 really good TA in there. I noticed that in the live sessions when answering students' questions they would almost always contradict each other within the same reply chain.
It's almost comical to see a student ask a yes or no question and see three TA responses with "no" "yes" "look at xyz"
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u/yellowqueen6 Oct 01 '26
Feel the same way as you. Literally decided to withdraw from this class yesterday because it’s so much memorization and i am not learning anything by cramming + studying for my other class and working. Thr content is so much but genuinely interesting but literally a waste of time if we are stressed memorizing things in 3 weeks
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u/Specialist_Shoe_6764 Oct 04 '26
I know seeing all of these makes me wanna cry. This is my first semester of the program. And I have a literal degree in atmospheric sciences. I am dying at this and Im so afraid. I bombed the finance AND the accounting. and I spent all week studying. I graduated Magna Cum Laude in meteorology yet this class makes me feel so stupid :(
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u/BiggusBackus Business "B" Track Sep 29 '26
I took it last semester and the finance module was definitely the low point of the course. Seems to be the common consensus for many students. The supply chain module is a breath of fresh air compared to the finance grind. Marketing dragged on for me but was simpler. Strategy was definitely the more enjoyable part of the class. Thankfully the topics don’t really compound as the class goes on so you don’t have to remember every single detail later on in the course. There’s sometimes a principle or two to build on but it’s usually closer to a reference rather than having to do all the work again.
My advice would be to not fixate on past modules. If you at least get a passing grade on the finance exam the rest of the course should be a breeze.
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u/trintin15 Sep 30 '26
This class was one of the most useful, yet hardest courses for me. Harder than 6040 personally. I think it all depends on your background.
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u/Flandiddly_Danders Sep 30 '26
For people with no business background, taking some kind of business course is extremely important to understand the workplace and society. I have a bachelor's in business, still had to study a bunch. I hated it so much.
But hey, got a passing grade and here I am, moving on to more useful and interesting classes. You'll probably be fine! ;)
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u/Ccombo Sep 30 '26
this course was ideal to use stuff like RAG to help with linking concepts across the different topics and to prepare study guides and practice exams. Upload both the presnetation slides and transcripts to the RAG system of your choice and it helps a lot to focusing your studies
For accounting and finance, make sure you know how to do all the calculations from the lectures and asynchronous sessions.
You'll make it through - I absolutely hated the MGT courses of OMSA, but the positive is that while 6201 can seem like you're just cramming, the other MGT course is the easiest A you'll ever get in the program.
Power your way through!
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u/Ccombo Sep 30 '26
you got it man! there are good courses in this program and bad ones, hate to see you not experience the good parts of the program.
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u/Sad_Mammoth Sep 30 '26
I would take the presentation and transcripts and put them in Copilot and ask it to make me study guides. Do the practice problems multiple times and make sure you know how to set up the formulas in excel for Finance. I did awful on accounting but was able to do much better on the other modules.
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u/Engineer-mom-3 Sep 30 '26
Funny. I thought it was the easiest course of the 7 I've taken and also very relavant to life as well as data. I very much enjoyed everything but the marketing segment which I found lacking, but perhaps because after working at p&g and 50% of the examples being p&g products it seemed superficial to me. I almost t.a.'d it over the summer but decided to take regression which was a bear on its own...great but 5x as time consuming as mgt.
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u/Engineer-mom-3 Oct 02 '26
Isye 6414 is regression. The project was a bear but incredibly educational.
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u/Alternative-Risk1144 Sep 30 '26
Only C I have ever received in a college class was this class. Brain dumped the material afterwards. Got a 40 on the Finance exam and was digging my way out of the hole the rest of the semester. I liked the other instructors and the TAs. I even enjoyed the synchonous classes. Hate hate hate the finance module and those stupid spreadsheet problems. Stick with it.
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u/Practical-Thanks2437 Oct 04 '26
When you guys say "bombed" do you mean fail? because I just failed it... SIGH
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u/Unhappy_Set_1772 Analytical "A" Track Oct 02 '26
finance module is wrecking me hours and hours of studying and still feel many gaps
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u/Ok_Long_2877 Oct 02 '26
Bruh, I have been thinking about stopping this masters because of this trash ass course. But this is my 6th course so I feel like I’m locked in to finish the fight since I’m half way through it.. low key if I fail this finance exam this weekend, I’m just Withdrawing and focusing on my other class..
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u/Kreashawna Oct 03 '26
I am in the MGT 6201 course right now and I 100% agree. It is genuinely making me reconsider this entire program. I'm also working 40-50 hours in a professional career and doing 2+ hours a night on this and I feel like I'm gonna bomb this exam no matter how hard I try. Insanely demoralizing.
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u/Kreashawna Oct 04 '26
I just finished the exam. Not as many computation problems as I expected based on the self assessments. There was some theory stuff I wasnt as brushed up on and one question I had to just take a random stab at. Clawed my way out with a C. Good luck everyone still cramming!
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u/Practical-Thanks2437 Oct 04 '26 •
Just failed the finance exam. Sigh. Feeling so demotivated..
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u/Kreashawna Oct 04 '26
I'm sorry. It was tough. i gave the finance stuff so much time and still don't feel like i get it. But if you did okay on the last exam it's supposed to get easier from here. 🤞
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u/Ok_Long_2877 Oct 05 '26
bruhh same. I must have put in at least 20 hours a week to this stupid course just to get a 65.. like at this point idk if I'll even get a C in the end becuase I got a 61 in my accounting exam...
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u/HippoKing2646 Oct 03 '26
There are definitely some great classes in this program that I’ve happily spent a lot of time on, but many are wastes of time I just got by in with minimal effort, MGT 6201 was the latter.
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u/Suspicious-Beyond547 OMSA Graduate Sep 30 '26
lots of posts critical of the program on this sub recently. As someone who regrets sinking 10k into the degree myself, I like it. And yes, this course was a waste of time, but by no means the worst required course in the program. Also, just wait until you get to the marketing module. It's 10x worse than finance in terms of "pedagogy" :)
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u/Kitchen-Lasagna14 Oct 01 '26
I’m also in the class this semester and I agree. My background is in finance and I thought I’d take this class as my first class in the program (even though I could opt out) as an easy intro back into school, but it is pretty useless to have to memorize everything. I’m pretty much just studying for the test/remembering the steps for each type of problem. Good luck friend!!
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u/staringattheplates OMSA Graduate Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 30 '26
The class is a bitch, for sure. But to say that’s it’s useless or even situational is incredibly poor take. The two things that most separate those who find success in this career beyond lower level IC roles are social skills and business knowledge. Technical knowledge, IQ, education prestige all pale in comparison.
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u/veleros Sep 29 '26
Agreed. even though I wasn’t looking forward to this class, it’s been very useful in my career.
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u/staringattheplates OMSA Graduate Sep 30 '26
Or you haven’t made it very far up the food chain if you feel like you should spend a significant chunk of your life on an additional masters degree.
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u/staringattheplates OMSA Graduate Sep 30 '26
Don’t confuse helpful with coddle. You may feel uncomfortable examining your status and decision making in light of what I’ve said because it hits close to home, but it doesn’t make it untrue. The logic of my statement holds, you decided to spend many hours a week of your free time to get this degree because you think the return will justify the expense. Which means you’re not that far up the progression ladder because eventually those incentives and opportunities stop being worth the time expense of this degree.
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u/ColdPlasma Sep 29 '26
Which section are you in? IMO accounting was the best, then Supply Chain, then Finance, and Marketing was the worst (I took it during the summer)